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AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS


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AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
(Senate - March 10, 1997)

Text of this article available as: TXT PDF [Pages S2057-S2078] AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will now proceed to the consideration of Senate Resolution 39, which the clerk will report. The bill clerk read as follows: A resolution (S. Res. 39) authorizing expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs. The Senate proceeded to consider the bill, which had been reported from the Committee on Rules and Administration, with an amendment to strike all after the resolving clause and insert the following: That (a) Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``Authorization of Additional Funds ``Sec. 24. (a) In General.--A sum equal to not more than $4,350,000, for the period beginning on the date of adoption of this section and ending on December 31, 1997, shall be made available from the contingent fund of the Senate out of the Account for Expenses for Inquiries and Investigations for payment of salaries and other expenses of the Committee on Governmental Affairs under this resolution, of which amount not to exceed $375,000 may be expended for the procurement of the services of individual consultants, or organizations thereof (as authorized by section 202(i) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946, as amended). The expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs authorized by this section supplement those authorized in section 13 and may be expended solely for the purpose stated in this section. ``(b) Purpose of Additional Funds.--The additional funds authorized by this section are for the sole purpose of conducting an investigation of illegal activities in connection with 1996 Federal election campaigns. ``(c) Referral To Select Committee on Ethics.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall refer any evidence of illegal activities involving any Member of the Senate revealed pursuant to the investigation authorized by subsection (b) to the Select Committee on Ethics. ``(d) Final Report.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall submit a final public report to the Senate no later than January 31, 1998, of the results of the investigation, study, and hearings conducted by the Committee pursuant to this section.''. (b) Section 16(b) of Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by-- (1) striking ``$1,339,109'' and inserting $1,789,109''; and (2) striking ``$200,000'' and inserting $300,000''. (c) The Committee on Rules and Administration shall continue to conduct hearings on campaign reform. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, on Thursday of last week, the Rules Committee reported out an amendment to Senate Resolution 39, and it is my understanding that the present business is that pending amendment, which does amend, if decided by the Senate, rule 39. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, I thank the Chair. We will now proceed to discuss the amendment as passed by the Rules Committee on Thursday of last week, the 6th of March. Madam President, the responsibility of the Rules Committee is to entertain, from all committees of the U.S. Senate, their requests for funding. We have, in Senate Resolution 54, which has been adopted by the Senate, the budgets for all of the committees of the Senate for their fiscal year, which runs from March 1 through February 28. The Committee on Governmental Affairs, in Senate Resolution 39, submitted their request for funding. In the initial consideration of Senate Resolution 39 by the Rules Committee, the committee determined that they would grant a portion of the funding request, and that is reflected in Senate Resolution 54. The Governmental Affairs Committee still had, under Senate Resolution 39, the balance of their request, which was considered on the 6th of March by the Rules Committee. After a full debate--and certainly in the judgment of the chairman, myself, and actively participated in by Senators on both sides, as we had nearly 100 percent attendance at the committee hearing on both sides--the committee voted to provide $4.35 million for the Committee on Governmental affairs as a supplemental to the request as reported in Senate Resolution 54. Now, how did we arrive at that figure? You can look at the request of the distinguished Senator from Ohio--indeed, a request that, by and large, was supported by most on that side of the aisle--that there be a definitive date for cutoff, and that date by the senior Senator from Ohio was December 31 of this calendar year, 1997. If I took that and viewed it as a reduced period of time; namely, that the Governmental Affairs Committee could begin its work using the supplemental funds, March 15, from a practical standpoint, through December 31, 1997, it would appear to this Senator that we would have, by and large, given that committee the funding profile in dollars in proportion to the timing from which those funds may be expended. The next question was the scope. I worked with other colleagues, primarily those on the Rules Committee, and I devised a formula, in consultation with the distinguished majority leader and others, whereby looking at the original Watergate resolution, we took from that the concept that we would allow the Governmental Affairs Committee to expend the supplemental budget for such investigations that they felt were illegal in connection with the 1996 Presidential election and congressional elections--not delineating between the House and Senate, but simply all Federal elections in calendar year 1996. So it seems to me that the Rules Committee, in a fair manner, recognized the dollars that we needed, gave the Governmental Affairs Committee a scope of the investigation and illegal--illegal is a very broad scope. It goes beyond. And I will at a later time today put into the Record the definitions of illegal. But it goes beyond just criminal assertions of allegations of criminal violations. It goes beyond that. So it is a broad scope. Then the Rules Committee took from the proposal, which the senior Senator from Ohio will address momentarily, a termination date of December 31, 1997. In addition to the Rules Committee, I think very importantly recognizing the essential need for the Senate of the United States to actively participate in determining what happened, certainly in 1996 in connection with the ever-increasing number of allegations--most [[Page S2058]] of them regrettably could border on or do, in fact, constitute illegal--it was essential that the other committees of the Senate take on their responsibilities, which is traditional under the allocation in the Senate of the responsibilities among the several committees. Therefore, we charged the Rules Committee, of which I am privileged to be the chairman, the duty to continue its hearings on campaign finance reform, gave it a sum of $450,000 to be used by that committee in enlarging and broadening the scope of their operations in the overall context of campaign reform and campaign financing. So the Rules Committee will take on an added role. In addition, if there is that development by the Governmental Affairs Committee or the Rules Committee of facts which should be examined by the Ethics Committee of the U.S. Senate as those facts relate to a Member of this body, it will be incumbent upon the Ethics Committee to review any allegations we feel merit the judgment of that committee as it relates to an individual in the U.S. Senate. So, Madam President, I feel that the Rules Committee unanimously, regrettably--bipartisan, yet unanimous among the Republicans--has addressed this tough issue, and we are here today for the purpose of amending Senate Resolution 39 such that they can have the additional funds and under a very carefully crafted and proscribed scope of activities within a time limit of December 31, 1997. Madam President, I yield the floor so that my distinguished colleague from Ohio can present his views. Mr. GLENN addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Ohio. Mr. GLENN. Madam President, we are now into the second week in March. The Senate has been operating for approximately 2 months. I don't know that we have had much in the way of accomplishment during that time period. Certainly, there are national problems that should be addressed. For example, we ought to be working on balancing the budget instead of just trying to pass amendments, which we tried to do, and it failed. We also have a series of problems with our health care system. Managed care may be saving money, but there is increasing evidence that it is happening at the expense of lower quality of health care. So, for uninsured Americans, that continues to be a major problem. As far as health care goes, we are going to have a debate, I guess, about partial-birth abortion. In other areas, the stock market has gone through the roof. Unemployment is at a 25-year low. But there is concern about the future, and about Social Security and Medicare. But there are no serious proposals by the Republican majority to deal with these issues. Well, today we have an opportunity. We have an opportunity to have the possibility of beginning a serious discussion about a serious issue: the campaign finance system used by both political parties in the United States. The American people are disgusted by what they see in campaign finance. And they should be. Along with the steady drumbeat of antigovernment ideologues, it is a major factor in America's loss of faith in our institutions of government. It is that serious. All you have to do is look at the polling data and such things as decreased participation in voting. If this trend continues, if America goes downhill because of the lack of confidence in our Federal Government, I say that we face a crisis that could literally threaten the foundation of democracy in the United States. There is a remedy to avert this crisis, as I see it, and to begin the restoration of public support for this system of government. The remedy requires that we reform the campaign finance system. It is a wonderful place to start because it certainly needs reforming. Will this get a serious examination by Congress, or will we get sidetracked by a partisan political circus? The jury is definitely out on that at this time. We have before us a resolution to fund a Senate investigation which, if the scope were made broader than it currently is, has enormous potential as a tool to stimulate public pressure on Congress to enact meaningful campaign finance reform, honest campaign finance reform. Recent revelations about fundraising involving 1996 Federal races are disturbing. They involve both parties in both congressional and Presidential campaigns. The truth is that the current fundraising system, both Presidential and congressional, is scandalous. Having said that, in my opinion, most Members of Congress are honest elected officials, both over in the House and here in the Senate. They are honest elected officials trying to do a good job, albeit from different political philosophies. But that is our system. But the general public perception that money gets its way in determining policy is, indeed, true for too many. There is a public perception that access follows money, and anybody who has been around Capitol Hill very long knows that sometimes it does. Access can alter the balance of arguments weighed by a Member and his or her staff when deciding a course of action, be it a vote on the floor or in committee, a colloquy on the Senate floor, introduction or cosponsorship of a piece of legislation, floor speech, insertion of language in a committee report, or a communication with an executive branch agency requesting an action, or the withholding of an action. But even when there is no connection whatsoever between a donation by a person to a politician and the latter's specific action as a legislator favoring that person, the perception of a payoff, even the possibility of a perception of a payoff, is corrosive to public trust in our Government. We must dispel this growing perception that Congress or parts of Congress are for sale if we are to reverse electoral apathy and restore faith in our Government. Gift bans have not done it. Honoraria bans have not done it. Only deep changes in the campaign finance system will do the job, and it will not be easy. The question is what should be the relationship of the Governmental Affairs Committee investigation to the drive for effective bipartisan campaign finance reform? The resolution before us, S. 39, as amended by the Rules Committee, states that the supplemental funds to be given to the Governmental Affairs Committee for this investigation are for the sole purpose of an investigation into illegal activities in the 1996 Federal election campaign. There are two things wrong with this statement of scope for the investigation. The first thing is that it is a bald-faced attempt by the Republican majority of the Rules Committee to undo a unanimous bipartisan agreement among the members of the Governmental Affairs Committee to have a broad investigation that would examine improper as well as illegal activities along with previous campaigns. Contrary to the claims of the Rules Committee chairman that his language tracks the Watergate resolution, the fact is that the Watergate resolution called for an investigation of improper and unethical activities as well as illegal ones. I am looking at a copy of the Watergate resolution that was passed in the Senate back in 1973. It was submitted by Senator Ervin, Sam Ervin and Mike Mansfield. In part 15 on page 8, it says they are ``to look into any other activities, circumstances, materials or transactions having a tendency to prove or disprove that persons, acting either individually or in combination with others, engaged in any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972, or any campaign, canvas, or activity related to such election.'' That is the language of one of the parts of what the Watergate Committee was to look into--any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972. The narrowing of the scope of the Governmental Affairs investigation by the Rules Committee is nothing more than a blatant pander to those elements in the Republican Party that do not wish to reform the campaign finance system and who are quite willing to scuttle the Governmental Affairs investigation if necessary to avoid creating public pressure to pass a decent bill. How does narrowing the scope to illegal activities avoid this problem for the Republicans? The first thing to understand is that the problem with the campaign finance system is not just what politicians do that is illegal. It is what politicians do that is legal that is [[Page S2059]] an equal scandal, and it happens every single day on Capitol Hill and with both political parties. Let me give you an example. Let us talk about soft money. That is the best example. One of the most pernicious influences in politics these days is soft money. Let me give you an example of that. Let us say Senator X, whoever it might be, solicits $50,000 or $500,000 in soft money from a potential donor to his or her party, ostensibly for party- building purposes, get-out-the-vote drives or the like. But the party can then turn around and use the money on an issue ad during the Senator's reelection campaign that helps him or her and hurts the opponent. According to the Department of Justice, Senator X can even do the solicitation for that $500,000 from his or her office because the solicitation is not for his or her campaign specifically but, rather, for the Senator's party. This practice should be illegal, but it is not. Suppose Senator X wants a direct contribution to his or her campaign from a potential donor, direct to his personal campaign. In that case, Federal election law prohibits the donor from contributing more than $1,000 per person, and it must be in the donor's own name. But that same donor can go out and collect checks of $1,000 for Senator X from everyone he knows, bundle them together, and send them to the Senator's campaign. Let us say Senator X calls from the Senator's office for those donations. If Senator X calls, he is committing an illegal act. But if Senator X calls from outside, it is OK. Suppose Senator X is so grateful, wherever the call came from, for the donor's willingness to help that the next time the donor is in town and wants to talk to Senator X about a legislative matter he has an interest in, Senator X not only lets him into his office but he welcomes him and listens to his pitch. And suppose that Senator X is sufficiently concerned about maintaining the donor's political help that the Senator does what the donor wants on the issue and there was no discussion linking the donation to the donor's request or to the Senator's action. In that case, there has been no bribe. But it is certainly the case that Senator X made his decision on the issue as a result of the donor having had access to the Senator, access that was based at least in part on the donation the Senator was given. Now, suppose Senator X made the original call to the donor from the Senator's office phone instead of from an outside phone. That would be a violation of law. You cannot do that. Let me pose the question. Which is the worst ethical lapse, making the phone call from a legally prohibited place or letting the money influence the Senator's vote? I submit that the answer is not even close. Senator X's constituents and the people generally will have been ill served if he lets money influence his decision, and that overshadows the question of whether the phone he used was a private phone or a Government phone. What is the point of this fictitious example? Well, the resolution before us, which limits the scope of the investigation only to illegal activities, would allow an investigation of whether Senator X committed an illegal act by using a Government phone for the direct solicitation if there was an allegation that he had done so but would allow no investigation of the contribution, and if a soft money contribution was involved, whether Senator X's party had spent that money on certain ads helpful to the Senator's campaign, a legal practice but one that should be illegal. It is not just the independent expenditures by the major parties that is the problem. There are also the independent expenditures by outside private groups including tax-exempt organizations that should be investigated for possible collusion with party organizations. The Washington Post had an article yesterday concerning nonprofits. To quote them: ``Mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end of the 1996 election,'' that were targeted mainly against Democratic candidates. No one apparently knows who supports them. One group, the Coalition for Our Children's Future, spent $700,000 on ads, mailings, phone banks, to help Republican candidates from Louisiana to California. Another group, Citizens for Reform, spent $2 million on ads, including a mailing labeling a Democratic candidate for Congress as sexist and anticonsumer. And this organization is tax exempt. They are not supposed to deal in political matters. In the case of tax-exempt organizations, collusion with a political party would be illegal but would not involve criminal penalties. In the case of a so-called 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, which is prohibited from engaging in political activity, there is the question of whether the placing of certain issue ads should be considered political activity under certain circumstances. Will this be investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee under the funding resolutions' current scope statement? That will depend on how the word ``illegal'' is interpreted. I must say, at several points along the way we have had different interpretations of that word. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the Washington Post article be printed in the Record at the end of my remarks. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. (See exhibit 1.) Mr. GLENN. That is only the beginning of the problems with this resolution. It also requires that if any evidence of illegality is discovered in the 1996 campaign activities of a Member of Congress by a Member of Congress, then such evidence is to be referred to the Ethics Committee. Does that mean the committee's investigation is to be terminated at that point? And, if the evidence comes to the attention of the committee before an investigation has even been initiated, does that mean the committee is to defer to the Ethics Committee for the investigation of the Member? Does referral to the Ethics Committee mean that Governmental Affairs will defer to the Ethics Committee on any possible criminal referral to the Department of Justice? We need answers to all of those things, obviously. What if we are into an investigation and there is something that pops up that looks as though it might be an ethical matter and might be illegal, which this committee would be permitted to deal with? Since there is this special provision with regard to ethics in the Senate, in referring it to the Ethics Committee, do we have to stop any investigation before anything comes out beyond a point where there has been just an allegation of illegality? So, let me return to the question of the meaning of the word ``illegal'' in the resolution. What is the standard to be used by the Governmental Affairs Committee to determine that an activity involves an illegality and is therefore subject to an investigation? Is illegality meant to be equivalent to criminality? Or is it broader and includes activities that are in violation of law but subject to only civil penalties or no penalties at all? The answer to this question will determine whether the activities of tax-exempt organizations engaged in political activity will be investigated. I believe the questions I am raising need to be answered during this debate so Members will know precisely what they are voting on when the time comes. These questions also need to be answered in order to examine whether the 54 subpoenas issued thus far by the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee are within the new scope of the investigation. Let me turn to some other deficiencies in the resolution. These are also deficiencies of omission. My remarks stem once again from my belief that a balanced investigation of fundraising by both parties, highlighting legal transgressions as well as their legal but ethically dubious fundraising activities, could be effective in pointing the way toward real reform. Conversely, an unbalanced, partisan investigation suggesting that the problems lie solely or even mainly with one party would be destructive to forging a consensus and would lead to political games, possibly including an attempt to pass reform legislation crafted not so much to fix the system as to give one party a fundraising advantage over the other. As the ranking Democrat on Governmental Affairs, I have urged the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee to follow standard Senate practices and enter into a written agreement that the investigation will be [[Page S2060]] carried out in a bipartisan manner with an agreed-upon agenda and with fairness. That involves ensuring that both the majority and minority: have contemporaneous access to all documentary evidence received by the committee; have the right to be given adequate advance notice of, to be present at, and to participate equally in all depositions and investigatory interviews; have equal opportunity to obtain and present relevant evidence on the subjects of the committee's inquiry; and, are treated equally and without discrimination in the discharge of the committee's administrative responsibilities. I regret to say that no agreement on these matters has been reached thus far. This has most egregiously shown up in the way subpoenas have been handled thus far. I am hopeful that passage of a funding resolution for the committee's investigation will be the occasion to put this investigation back on a bipartisan track. I believe that failure to do so will redound to the credit of no one and mark the first major stain on this committee's record of bipartisan cooperation during my 22-year tenure on it. Finally, I must comment on that part of the resolution that provides for authorization of some $450,000 in additional funds for the Rules Committee to examine those aspects of campaign fundraising that are outside the scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation under the terms of this resolution as currently written. It is certainly true that the Rules Committee has legislative jurisdiction over campaign finance reform and, therefore, can look into soft money and independent expenditures, among other things, as policy matters. But the Rules Committee is not basically an investigative committee. I could not recall the last time it ever issued a subpoena. We made some inquiry into this and found that no subpoenas have been issued by the committee since at least 1980. We do not know whether any were before that time or not. They may do hearings, but that is not the same as an investigation as conceived under this resolution. Let us not deceive the public about this. Recent press reports clearly indicated that at least two members of the Rules Committee, Republican members of the Rules Committee, would not vote for the funding resolution for the investigation that originally came out of the Governmental Affairs Committee because the scope of the investigation would have included legal as well as illegal congressional fundraising practices. Those Members were concerned that the result of such an investigation might be to raise public pressure on Congress to pass campaign finance reform legislation. The fact is, there is little support for campaign reform among my Republican colleagues. The McCain-Feingold bill has only one other Republican cosponsor, and that is Senator Thompson, to his credit. So we know what game is being played with the Rules Committee rewrite of the previously-agreed-to scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation. It is a game in which legal but improper congressional fundraising is kept off the table while a parade of Presidential fundraisers for the Democratic Party and the Clinton-Gore campaign are brought before the cameras at televised hearings, to give the impression that all the problems are with the Democratic Party and there is no need to change the laws. I do not believe it will work. I do not believe the American people are that naive. I believe they will see through such a strategy were it to unfold. Chairman Thompson has said congressional fundraising should be on the table. I agree with him. That is one of the reasons I was disappointed when none of his first 65 subpoenas were directed toward congressional fundraising. I and my Democratic colleagues will attempt to broaden the scope to include legal activities that are improper, which is where many of the major campaign finance problems are, and which should be thoroughly investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee. So, I hope--in fact I invite Chairman Thompson to join me in cosponsoring an amendment I plan to offer to broaden the scope, and I invite him to join me in voting against tabling any such amendment. I also invite all Members of the Senate, Democratic and Republican, who truly want to change our system to join us. Let us look at it from your children's perspective of 20 years from now. Whichever party is in the majority--and that may have changed in that time, maybe before that--but look at your children as adults out there, taking part in the political system at that time. Whichever party is in the majority at that time, I am sure we can all hope that political fundraising will not be the mess that it is today. One way to gain that end is to assure that investigations are carried out now without fear or favor and spotlighting the dark corners, whether illegal or legal, but in either event, wrong, improper, and unethical. The resolution before us does not take us in that direction, and that is why I also urge Senator Thompson, even if we fail to pass such an amendment, to seek every opportunity at our committee level to examine and thoroughly investigate any alleged illegal fundraising activities by Members of Congress, in the House or Senate. That will at least be a start, and I pledge my full support to such efforts. So I await with interest his proposed agenda and subpoenas in this area. At the appropriate time today, before we finish this debate, I will have an amendment to submit. I would like to lay it down this evening. I doubt all the people on either side of the aisle who wish to speak on the amendment will return before we go out of session, but I would like to have time later on to submit the amendment before we go out of session this evening. I yield the floor. Exhibit 1 [From the Washington Post, Mar. 9, 1997] For Their Targets, Mystery Groups' Ads Hit Like Attacks From Nowhere (By Charles R. Babcock and Ruth Marcus) Campaign watchdog groups and government regulators are concerned about the emergence of mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end the 1996 election and could play an even larger role in coming campaigns. The groups, with bland names such as Citizens for Reform and the Republic Education Fund, spent millions of dollars on television advertising, mailings and telephone banks in the closing weeks of the campaign, mostly on the side of the Republicans. None of their activities was reported to the Federal Election Commission (FEC). ``The public has no idea who these people are or where they're coming from or who funds them,'' said Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, which monitors political ethics. ``They are trying to influence the political process and the public is in the dark.'' For example, a group called the Coalition for Our Children's Future spent more than $700,000 on television and radio ads, mailings, and telephone banks to bolster GOP candidates in key races from Louisiana to California. The last-minute onslaught, financed in part by a donor who demanded a written confidentiality agreement, was conducted without the knowledge or approval of the group's directors. Two of the directors resigned in protest after The Washington Post informed them of the late ads, saying they never approved the expenditures. They said they still do not know exactly what was done or the source of funding. Former director Deborah Steelman, a GOP lobbyist, said she thought the group had been inactive since spending more than $4 million on advertising backing the GOP's legislative agenda in 1995. ``Clearly, the organization created another mission of which we were not a part,'' she said. Like the more identifiable AFL-CIO and environmental groups that also ran advertising, leaders of organizations such as the coalition say their television commercials were not political because they did not explicitly endorse a candidate. Since they were engaging in ``issue advocacy,'' they said, they were not required to report to the FEC the source of their funds or how much they spent. One group created last spring and calling itself Citizens for Reform spent $2 million in the closing days, according to its president, conservative activist Peter Flaherty. In California, it sent mailings into the district of Democratic Rep. George Brown accusing him of being sexist and anti- consumer. The Consumer Federation of America, cited as the source in one flier although it endorsed Brown, denounced the mailing as ``extremely misleading and grossly unfair.'' In Montana, the group bought television time calling Democratic congressional candidate Bill Yellowtail a convicted criminal who ``preaches family values . . . but took a swing at his wife.'' Another new group called Citizens for the Republic Educaiton Fund obtained at least $1 million in late ads, according to director Lyn Nofziger, longtime political aide to Ronald Reagan. In Texas, it bought television ads against Democratic congressional candidate Nick Lampson that said he had been [[Page S2061]] accused of Medicare fraud. In Erie, Pa., another television ad denounced ``big labor bosses'' for trying to buy ``a Congress they can control.'' Some ads were so inflammatory that the Republican candidates they were designed to help denounced them. And some stations would not run some ads or pulled them off the air after complaints by Democratic candidates. Leaders of the groups targeting Democrats say they operated independently and they and GOP officials said the groups were not fronts for the party. Nofziger called it, ``outrageous'' that advocacy groups like his are allowed to ``go and run political ads and call them education.'' He added, ``We wouldn't have had to do it if it had not been for labor'' and its attacks on GOP candidates. The Flaherty and Nofziger groups were run by a Washington- based firm, Triad Management, that advertises itself as sort of an underground version of the Republican Party. A Triad marketing video includes testimonials from Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.) and several House members aimed at recruiting donors for what the video labels a ``privatized Republican national coalition.'' Triad's Carolyn Malenick, a former fund-raiser for Oliver L. North, says on the video that labor has always been the ``rapid fire'' of the Democratic Party. ``If the Republican Party needs that quote `rapid fire' where're we going to find it?'' she said. ``If we need to move or have $100,000 put into a congressional race tomorrow where're we going to find it?'' Malenick declined to be interviewed. Mark Braden, Triad's attorney, said the group was not a front for the GOP or a particular special interest, like the tobacco industry. Malenick's donors are mostly individuals from ``ideologically driven networks,'' he said. While most of the late negative issue ads with mysterious sponsors targeted Democratic races, a labor-funded group, the '96 Project, paid for voter guides mailed in the name of other groups in 14 races. The project paid $50,000 for mailings in six House districts where the fliers said they were ``sponsored'' by local or state affiliates of the National Council of Senior Citizens, a group made up predominantly of retired union members. There was no mention of the '96 Project in the mailings. Scott Wolf, director of the project, said there was no intent to deceive the public on who was behind the mailings, which made GOP candidates look unfavorable on key issues. His group also paid for mailings in eight races ``sponsored'' by the Interfaith Alliance, a group of ministers formed as an alternative to the Christian Coalition, according to the alliance's Greg Lebel. Lebel said ``it never occurred to us'' voters might be misled because the eight mailings said only that the '96 Project ``prepared'' the voter guides. Most of the late money from obscure groups was spent on television. And Federal Communications Commission officials who monitor political advertising say their authority over broadcasters is limited. Charles Kelley, chief of enforcement for the FCC's mass media bureau, said the agency wants to know ``who is the attempted persuader'' in such ads. The question, he said, is ``what legal authority we have, if any, to obligate the true sponsor to step forward.'' The FCC managed to do that in a case in Oregon last fall, when it discovered that a group calling itself Fairness Matters to Oregonians was being financed by the Tobacco Institute. The FCC ruled the group's ads, which opposed an increase in the state cigarette tax, could be aired but the tobacco Institute had to be identified as the sponsor. Various campaign reform proposals in Congress attempt to address the late attacks by saying the name or image of candidates cannot be mentioned in ads in the last 60 days before the general election. But many lawmakers and interest groups say such proposals would put unconstitutional limits on their First Amendment rights. Flaherty, who also heads the Conservative Campaign Fund PAC, said concerns about sponsorship are misplaced. ``Most people when they see an ad don't focus on who put it on, but focus on the message,'' he said. ``If the message has strength and credibility it will persuade people. If it doesn't, it won't.'' In applying for tax-exempt status, which allowed it to avoid paying taxes on investment income, Citizens for Reform told the IRS it had no plans to spend money ``attempting to influence'' elections. But asked whether the groups' advertising had been effective, Flaherty said, ``I think we made a big difference. It was an absolute onslaught in some of these areas by labor and liberal groups and I think we helped stanch the bleeding artery.'' Perhaps the most peculiar of the late ad campaigns was the one run in the name of the Coalition for our Children's Future, which spent money in six House districts, the Louisiana Senate race and 12 Minnesota legislative races, according to Executive Director Barry Bennett. Two directors, Dirk Van Dongen, president of the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors, and Donald L. Fierce, a GOP consultant and former Republican National Committee aide, resigned in protest; two others, Steelman and Gary Andres, had left the board earlier. How the unauthorized advertising campaign was launched and how races were targeted remains murky. Bennett, working in Ohio at the time of the election as chief of staff to then- Rep. Frank A. Cremeans (R), at first said he did not know of any extensive late advertising. Then he acknowledged he had signed the secrecy agreement with the donor and signed blank checks to pay a Houston political consultant who ran the advertising campaign. Bennett said he did so without telling board members. Bennett and the group's fund-raising consultant, John Simms, said the consultant, Denis Calabrese, approached them last summer and helped connect them with some donors, who they declined to identify. Calabrese, who has worked on industry's side to make it harder to win large damage awards in lawsuits, did not return numerous phone calls. Bennett said he had tried without success, after the Post inquiries, to obtain copies of the television scripts from Simms' firm. He said he had no idea what the coalition, organized to address federal issues, was doing in Minnesota statehouse races. ``Am I embarrassed by this?'' Bennett said before he stopped returning phone calls. ``Yes . . . I understand we've created a huge mystery here and that's our fault.'' Mr. WARNER addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Allard). The Senator from Virginia. Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, there are others anxious to speak to this. I see Senator Hatch is here, and I want to, just in reply to my distinguished friend and colleague, say a few words here, and then Senator Hatch, hopefully, will take the floor momentarily. First, I want to make it very clear, I am not going to personalize this debate in any way or use the word ``pandering.'' Nobody is pandering anybody around here. What we are trying to do is how to get as quickly as possible to the point where the U.S. Senate, in several committees, can start looking into this very important issue, hopefully in a fair and objective manner, for the best interests of this institution and our country. I have been in politics--I am almost hesitant to mention how many years--but it is a good 40-plus, and I have never in my lifetime ever seen a situation engulfing this great Nation, casting more doubt in the minds of the voters with regard to how we, those who serve in the Congress and those who serve in the executive branch as the President and Vice President, go about the process of elections, and we have to get at the bottom of this thing as quickly as possible. I have indicated my support for Chairman Fred Thompson as a man I have absolute faith in, who can deal with this matter fairly and objectively, and I have said that for weeks. Never once have I deviated, and I do not think there will ever be a basis that I shall deviate. I said from the beginning that I want to support him as an individual. I want to support the work of his committee. But there is a very careful delineation of responsibilities here among the several committees, and there is clearly, within the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, which I am privileged to chair, the right to superimpose our own judgment on the scope and activities of the other committees of the Senate as it relates to those funds under our jurisdiction. This is in no way any bald-faced effort by myself or other members of the Rules Committee, particularly the distinguished majority leader, who was just on the floor consulting with me minutes ago, no way to try to do other than what I have just said, which is to get the Senate on the track as quickly as possible. We just have to get beyond all of this procedure business and get on with the business. I said that I drew this scope language, drawing from the Watergate. I never said I used it. I have read it now probably 25 times and studied the history of it. I know all the words that are in it. It is interesting. In the Watergate resolution, I ask my friend, if he wants to debate it later on, whether or not you find any authority in there to investigate the Congress. I do not find it in the Watergate resolution, but it is very clearly expressed in this resolution as adopted by the Rules Committee. We in no way tried to obfuscate that issue. This volume is the ``Authority and Rules of Senate Committees'' for the last fiscal year, but it is applicable to this. I would like to just read the question of jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, and it is found on page 155 of that book. It states we have the authority to investigate ``corrupt practices.'' Now that is about as broad as any charter can be--as broad as any charter can be. Then go to section 5: [[Page S2062]] Federal elections generally, including the election of the President, Vice President, and Members of the Congress. There it is. That is the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee. Now go over to the jurisdiction of the Governmental Affairs Committee--and I urge my colleague from Ohio to take a moment or two to look through this book so that he can reply--found on page 101, and in detail on page 102, where it says, the committee is duly authorized, or a subcommittee thereof is authorized to study and investigate. You do not find--at least I haven't thus far in studying it--that precise language as it relates to the Rules Committee concerning jurisdiction over precisely what it is that the U.S. Senate must investigate. If anything, this volume gives clearly the authority to the Rules Committee, and I find less specificity as it relates to the Governmental Affairs Committee. Lastly, as to campaign finance reform, the generic subject, the Rules Committee held a number of hearings last year. We already commenced our series of hearings this year. The distinguished majority leader designated the majority whip, Mr. Nickles, and a group of us, including the Senator from Virginia speaking, and it is our responsibility to try to come up with a grouping of proposals which we have reason to believe will effect the greatest possible reform in this generic subject of campaign finance reform. You bet there are areas which I would like to see changed. In my last campaign, I experienced spending by my opponent--and I do not castigate him in any way at this point in time, nor did I ever--but clearly he had the authority under the Supreme Court decision to spend all the money of his personal funds he wished. He set a record in the history of the U.S. Senate races from the first day this body was constituted through and including today for the greatest amount of money spent for a State per capita in the United States. I think we should enact some legislation that would curtail, in some manner, the limit of an individual to expend millions and millions and millions of dollars. In the case of my race, it is presumably in excess, it was reported, $10 million out of personal spending. Maybe subsequent records will show an additional amount, but that is not here to argue. The point being, the only way that can be done is by a constitutional amendment. I would not want to see this body rest its entire package of reforms that a constitutional amendment is going to be adopted in this area of campaign finance reform. My own personal opinion, it is highly unlikely that such an amendment, even though I would favor certain types of constitutional amendments on campaign reform, that that can be achieved; essentially, the first amendment, which, again, would require a constitutional amendment. There are many areas of campaign finance reform that would be solely predicated on the ability to get a constitutional amendment in order to achieve those goals. I would not want to see this body pass a package of campaign finance reform proposals knowing full well in our hearts that the Federal court is going to strike down in large measure a number of those provisions. So I look forward to continuing to work with the distinguished majority leader and the majority whip in seeing what we can come up with in a package of campaign finance reform proposals which can be adopted by this body and, Mr. President, can withstand the essential scrutiny that will come about by the third branch of Government, namely, the Federal court system. Mr. President, I now yield the floor. Mr. HATCH addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah. Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, it befalls me to make a few comments here today concerning why this investigation is so important. Before I do, I want to compliment the Rules Committee and the people on the Rules Committee who have handled this very difficult subject matter and have done it in a credible and responsible way. I also personally believe that no two people could handle this matter better than the chairman and ranking member of the Governmental Affairs Committee. Senator Thompson has had extensive experience in these matters and Senator Glenn is known as an eminently fair and worthy person here in this body. I have total confidence in both of them that they will be fair, they will be thorough, they will be tough, and they will do what is right. We simply have to get to the bottom of this. The American people are concerned about it. Certainly the media has written extensively about these matters. It is incumbent upon the Senate in its oversight capacity to investigate these matters fairly and thoroughly. As we take up Senate Resolution 39 today, I would like to just take a few minutes to emphasize one major point: That there is a serious number of very, very troubling matters to investigate, simply at the very core of Senators Thompson's and Glenn's inquiry. Merely in recent press reports--if that is all you had--there are very substantial and troubling questions that must be answered regarding whether foreign money and foreign influence has infiltrated the American political process. While numerous other allegations of improper fundraising at the White House and by the White House have surfaced in the media in the past week or so, that is not what I want to talk about today. Even putting aside all of those allegations, the fact is that we have before us very serious allegations that China funneled funds into American elections in an attempt to influence American policy and policymakers. The gravity of these allegations should not and must not be underestimated. Were our national interests sold out? I hope they were not. But this matter must be pursued, and it must be done in a thorough, fair, and honest manner. Later this week the Judiciary Committee will forward a letter to the Attorney General requesting that she apply for an independent counsel. To date, she has refused to do so in this matter. I do not read anything sinister into that--I believe that the Attorney General is an honorable, ethical person of integrity. She has applied for the appointment of no less than four independent counsels since she has been Attorney General. I think she has shown that she is a person who can act. But to date she has refused to act on this matter. Accordingly, Congress must be all the more vigilant. And given the apparent conflict of interest, the public will be relying on Congress to ascertain the facts and get to the bottom of this whole affair. The Governmental Affairs Committee inquiry into fundraising improprieties is, in my opinion, one of the most important congressional investigations in history and involves some of the most serious allegations we have seen to date about our electoral system and our Government. The press and congressional committees have uncovered material facts that prompt numerous questions: First, did a foreign government try to influence our national elections and our domestic and/or foreign policy? No. 2, were millions of dollars of foreign money laundered through various groups to the Democratic National Committee, particularly by three individuals--Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, and John Huang, all of whom have some ties to China. No. 3, were there violations of any of our existing laws, such as the Hatch Act, the Ethics in Government Act, and our current Federal elections laws? The breadth of this particular investigation is immense. We cannot allow ourselves, in an attempt to satisfy the tendentious cause for a broad inquiry into congressional campaigns, to interfere with what is a serious matter. Investigating the 1996 Presidential campaign alone will require a very substantial budget and a substantial amount of time--I presume even more time than the Rules Committee has allowed in this instance, which is only until the end of this year or approximately 8 months. I suspect this will go on beyond that and will have to go on beyond that because of what will be brought out. Let us focus for a moment, however, in terms of the breadth of this investigation, on one individual--Mr. John Huang. He was born in China. He worked for the Lippo Group, a huge conglomerate based in Indonesia with large business interests in China. Lippo is owned and controlled by the Riady family-- Mochtar, James, and Stephen. These are also Chinese natives. [[Page S2063]] By 1994, Huang was the top Lippo executive in the United States. Huang was appointed Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Economic Policy in our Department of Commerce in September 1994. Let me just go down through what John Huang did while employed at Commerce--just a quick glance. He was, according to reports, given a top security clearance without the usual background check, which is all but unheard of; 78-plus visits to the White House; 70-plus calls to Lippo during this period of time; 39 classified top secret briefings dwelling on China and other countries in Asia; 30-plus phone conversations with Mark Middleton or associates; 9 phone messages from or calls to Webster Hubbell; 9 phone messages from the Chinese Embassy officials; 5 months of top secret clearance before joining the Commerce Department. In other words, even before he got in this very important position in Government, he had 5 months of top secret clearance. Why? That is a question that is going to be a big question in this matter. Huang enjoyed a top secret clearance for 5 months of top secret clearance before joining Commerce and nearly a year after leaving Commerce to join the Democratic National Committee. Why? Why would those security clearances go with him outside of Government? Why would he be permitted this kind of access to very sensitive information? These are questions that are very important. Taken with the $780,000 severance pay Huang received from Lippo prior to joining the Commerce Department, these facts naturally raise questions. This next chart involves a meeting at the White House to discuss the Huang transfer from the White House to the Democratic National Committee on September 13, 1995. It was an Oval Office meeting. The President was there. James Riady, the Lippo executive was there. Bruce Lindsey, the Deputy White House Counsel, was there. Joseph Giroir, who is, I believe, the former top partner in the Rose Law Firm, the Lippo joint venture partner/adviser, former Rose Law Firm partner, and, if I recall correctly, was the managing partner of that firm, and none other than John Huang, former Lippo executive, Principal Deputy Assistant, Secretary of Commerce. At this meeting, it was decided that John Huang would move from the Commerce Department to the Democratic National Committee as vice chairman of finance. We do not know what happened at this meeting, although some extremely troubling explanations have been reported by the media. Each one of these people, it seems to me, with the possible exception of the President, will have to be questioned regarding just what went on at that meeting, why Huang left Commerce, and why he was immediately transferred to the Democratic National Committee as the finance vice chairman, why James Riady, was even at this meeting. That is a very important meeting. Let me put another chart up here. This is John Huang at the Democratic National Committee. These are examples of illegal funds raised by Huang. The Wiriadinatas raised $450,000, all of which was returned by the DNC. Pauline Kanchanalak, $250,000. She has since left the country. She is now in Thailand. All funds returned by the DNC. Wogesh Gandhi, $250,000. He testified he had no assets. All funds returned by the DNC, the Democratic National Committee. Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--$250,000. Like Kanchanalak and others, Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--has disappeared. All of these funds were returned by the Democratic National Committee. Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple, $166,750: This comes from a temple where the residents take a vow of poverty; $74,000 of the $166,750 was returned by the DNC. All together, that we know of, John Huang raised $3.4 million, $1.6 million of which has been returned by the Democratic National Committee. These are just a few of some of the problems that I think the Governmental Affairs Committee is going to have to go into. I do not see how they can avoid doing it. To give a picture of some of the people who seem to be involved in this, let me just highlight some of the other individuals involved in this affair. We start with John Huang, former top Lippo executive in the United States, who had a $780,000 severance package when he went to Congress. He had multiple contacts while there with Lippo. The former Democratic National Committee vice chairman raised more than $3.4 million, $1.6 million was returned, and he visited the White House during this period more than 75 times. C.J. Giroir, in the Lippo joint ventures, former Rose Law Firm attorney, met with James Riady, President Clinton, and Lindsey on the Huang move to DNC, and donated $25,000 to the DNC. Mark Middleton, former White House aide from Little Rock, met with James Riady and President Clinton on that occasion, Far East business interests, had unlimited access to the White House after his departure. Charles Trie, Little Rock restauranteur, received a $60,000 loan from Lippo, and he arranged with the former Lippo executive Antonio Pan to get a Hong Kong dinner for Ron Brown. Trie also attempted to give $600,000 to the Clinton legal trust fund, and he visited the White House at least 37 times. Mark Grobmyer, Little Rock attorney, close friend of President Clinton, consultant to Lippo, Far East business interests, met with James Riady, Huang and President Clinton. Soraya Wiriadinata, daughter of Hashin Ning, former Lippo executive, contributed $450,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned, according to the committee. Soraya has gone back to Indonesia. S. Wang Jun, Lippo joint ventures, Chinese arms merchant, senior executive at CITIC and COSTIND, Chinese Government entities, and attended a White House conference. Webster Hubbell, former Associate Attorney General, received a $250,000 consulting fee from Lippo--would not say why he got that. Charles DeQueljoe is the president of Lippo Securities in Jakarta, gave $70,000 to the Democratic National Committee and was appointed to the USTR office. Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai lobbyist who worked with Huang when he was at Lippo, contributed $253,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned. She had frequent contacts with Huang. She visited the White House at least 26 times. And then we come back to John Huang himself. Now, all of these people are going to have to be interviewed. We are going to have to find out what the facts are here. What was going on? Were there illegalities? In that regard, these are key players who have taken the fifth amendment: John Huang, Charlie Trie, Pauline Kanchanalak, Mark Middleton, and Webster Hubbell. I do not see how anybody on the other side of the floor can argue that this set of hearings should not go on, or that this would not take almost every second of any committee's time, and I am only talking about one aspect of it. There are many other aspects to this. The key players who have left the country--and we have not been given reasons why they left the country--are John H.K. Lee--gone. If he is going to be interviewed, it is overseas. Charlie Trie, gone, after taking the fifth. Pauline Kanchanalak, gone--as far as I know, back in Thailand, after having taken the fifth amendment. Arief and Soraya Wiriadinata, gone. Charles DeQueljoe, gone. And James and Mochtar Riady, gone. They left the country. All this is a brief discussion of one aspect of this. There are other aspects of this, but this is a brief glimpse into some of the serious allegations the Government Oversight Committee will have to look into. I emphasize the point with which I opened, just that at the core of this investigation is a vast series of matters which must be looked into. This will be one of the most important congressional investigations in history. I hope it is not obstructed by partisan tactics and politics. I hope with all my heart it is not. I think the American people expect as much. When I found out over the weekend that the FBI--and I did not know this before--had notified seven Members of Congress that they might be receiving laundered funds from a foreign country, mainly China, I was kind of shocked at that, because if they informed those seven Members of Congress, surely the FBI informed the White House. I have been led to believe by the FBI they informed the National Security Council. That being the case, [[Page S2064]] why are all these people having such access to our White House under those circumstances? As chairman of the Judiciary Committee, as chairman of the committee that oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, naturally, I have to be concerned about it. Now, in addition to all of this, there are newer revelations coming out every day. I challenge the Government Affairs Committee to substantiate these allegations, to look into them. Let me just list some of the new revelations about the campaign finance scandals that were first reported after the Governmental Affairs Committee made a request of $6.5 million to investigate the scandal. First, Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes made a telephone call from Air Force One to warn of the wiring of the money to the Democratic National Committee and additional funds to nonprofit organizations. There is some indication they used Air Force One for the purpose of raising funds. I hope that is not the case. Second, questions have been raised concerning whether the White House database was created for official--as opposed to political--purposes, since it contained individuals' Social Security numbers, nicknames, relations to the First Family, pet political issues, and sometimes a photograph. Third, China may have sought to influence U.S. policy through the direction of foreign campaign contributions to the Democratic National Committee and actions taken at the Chinese embassy. It has been disclosed that Huang had contacts with the embassy while he worked at Commerce. Fourth, the NSC, National Security Council, at the White House provided the White House with warnings about Johnny Chung, who has ties to the Chinese Government, who was nonetheless subsequently granted access to the White House on numerous occasions, even though they knew about those ties. Fifth, Huang approached two business associates and offered to pay them $45,000 if they would take $250,000 from him and donate it in their own names to the Democratic National Committee. That is illegal. Sixth, the White House fired four staff members whose salaries were being paid by the Democratic National Committee while they were working at the White House. I don't know whether that has ever been done before, but it should not be done. There are other allegations, but

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AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
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Text of this article available as: TXT PDF [Pages S2057-S2078] AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will now proceed to the consideration of Senate Resolution 39, which the clerk will report. The bill clerk read as follows: A resolution (S. Res. 39) authorizing expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs. The Senate proceeded to consider the bill, which had been reported from the Committee on Rules and Administration, with an amendment to strike all after the resolving clause and insert the following: That (a) Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``Authorization of Additional Funds ``Sec. 24. (a) In General.--A sum equal to not more than $4,350,000, for the period beginning on the date of adoption of this section and ending on December 31, 1997, shall be made available from the contingent fund of the Senate out of the Account for Expenses for Inquiries and Investigations for payment of salaries and other expenses of the Committee on Governmental Affairs under this resolution, of which amount not to exceed $375,000 may be expended for the procurement of the services of individual consultants, or organizations thereof (as authorized by section 202(i) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946, as amended). The expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs authorized by this section supplement those authorized in section 13 and may be expended solely for the purpose stated in this section. ``(b) Purpose of Additional Funds.--The additional funds authorized by this section are for the sole purpose of conducting an investigation of illegal activities in connection with 1996 Federal election campaigns. ``(c) Referral To Select Committee on Ethics.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall refer any evidence of illegal activities involving any Member of the Senate revealed pursuant to the investigation authorized by subsection (b) to the Select Committee on Ethics. ``(d) Final Report.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall submit a final public report to the Senate no later than January 31, 1998, of the results of the investigation, study, and hearings conducted by the Committee pursuant to this section.''. (b) Section 16(b) of Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by-- (1) striking ``$1,339,109'' and inserting $1,789,109''; and (2) striking ``$200,000'' and inserting $300,000''. (c) The Committee on Rules and Administration shall continue to conduct hearings on campaign reform. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, on Thursday of last week, the Rules Committee reported out an amendment to Senate Resolution 39, and it is my understanding that the present business is that pending amendment, which does amend, if decided by the Senate, rule 39. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, I thank the Chair. We will now proceed to discuss the amendment as passed by the Rules Committee on Thursday of last week, the 6th of March. Madam President, the responsibility of the Rules Committee is to entertain, from all committees of the U.S. Senate, their requests for funding. We have, in Senate Resolution 54, which has been adopted by the Senate, the budgets for all of the committees of the Senate for their fiscal year, which runs from March 1 through February 28. The Committee on Governmental Affairs, in Senate Resolution 39, submitted their request for funding. In the initial consideration of Senate Resolution 39 by the Rules Committee, the committee determined that they would grant a portion of the funding request, and that is reflected in Senate Resolution 54. The Governmental Affairs Committee still had, under Senate Resolution 39, the balance of their request, which was considered on the 6th of March by the Rules Committee. After a full debate--and certainly in the judgment of the chairman, myself, and actively participated in by Senators on both sides, as we had nearly 100 percent attendance at the committee hearing on both sides--the committee voted to provide $4.35 million for the Committee on Governmental affairs as a supplemental to the request as reported in Senate Resolution 54. Now, how did we arrive at that figure? You can look at the request of the distinguished Senator from Ohio--indeed, a request that, by and large, was supported by most on that side of the aisle--that there be a definitive date for cutoff, and that date by the senior Senator from Ohio was December 31 of this calendar year, 1997. If I took that and viewed it as a reduced period of time; namely, that the Governmental Affairs Committee could begin its work using the supplemental funds, March 15, from a practical standpoint, through December 31, 1997, it would appear to this Senator that we would have, by and large, given that committee the funding profile in dollars in proportion to the timing from which those funds may be expended. The next question was the scope. I worked with other colleagues, primarily those on the Rules Committee, and I devised a formula, in consultation with the distinguished majority leader and others, whereby looking at the original Watergate resolution, we took from that the concept that we would allow the Governmental Affairs Committee to expend the supplemental budget for such investigations that they felt were illegal in connection with the 1996 Presidential election and congressional elections--not delineating between the House and Senate, but simply all Federal elections in calendar year 1996. So it seems to me that the Rules Committee, in a fair manner, recognized the dollars that we needed, gave the Governmental Affairs Committee a scope of the investigation and illegal--illegal is a very broad scope. It goes beyond. And I will at a later time today put into the Record the definitions of illegal. But it goes beyond just criminal assertions of allegations of criminal violations. It goes beyond that. So it is a broad scope. Then the Rules Committee took from the proposal, which the senior Senator from Ohio will address momentarily, a termination date of December 31, 1997. In addition to the Rules Committee, I think very importantly recognizing the essential need for the Senate of the United States to actively participate in determining what happened, certainly in 1996 in connection with the ever-increasing number of allegations--most [[Page S2058]] of them regrettably could border on or do, in fact, constitute illegal--it was essential that the other committees of the Senate take on their responsibilities, which is traditional under the allocation in the Senate of the responsibilities among the several committees. Therefore, we charged the Rules Committee, of which I am privileged to be the chairman, the duty to continue its hearings on campaign finance reform, gave it a sum of $450,000 to be used by that committee in enlarging and broadening the scope of their operations in the overall context of campaign reform and campaign financing. So the Rules Committee will take on an added role. In addition, if there is that development by the Governmental Affairs Committee or the Rules Committee of facts which should be examined by the Ethics Committee of the U.S. Senate as those facts relate to a Member of this body, it will be incumbent upon the Ethics Committee to review any allegations we feel merit the judgment of that committee as it relates to an individual in the U.S. Senate. So, Madam President, I feel that the Rules Committee unanimously, regrettably--bipartisan, yet unanimous among the Republicans--has addressed this tough issue, and we are here today for the purpose of amending Senate Resolution 39 such that they can have the additional funds and under a very carefully crafted and proscribed scope of activities within a time limit of December 31, 1997. Madam President, I yield the floor so that my distinguished colleague from Ohio can present his views. Mr. GLENN addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Ohio. Mr. GLENN. Madam President, we are now into the second week in March. The Senate has been operating for approximately 2 months. I don't know that we have had much in the way of accomplishment during that time period. Certainly, there are national problems that should be addressed. For example, we ought to be working on balancing the budget instead of just trying to pass amendments, which we tried to do, and it failed. We also have a series of problems with our health care system. Managed care may be saving money, but there is increasing evidence that it is happening at the expense of lower quality of health care. So, for uninsured Americans, that continues to be a major problem. As far as health care goes, we are going to have a debate, I guess, about partial-birth abortion. In other areas, the stock market has gone through the roof. Unemployment is at a 25-year low. But there is concern about the future, and about Social Security and Medicare. But there are no serious proposals by the Republican majority to deal with these issues. Well, today we have an opportunity. We have an opportunity to have the possibility of beginning a serious discussion about a serious issue: the campaign finance system used by both political parties in the United States. The American people are disgusted by what they see in campaign finance. And they should be. Along with the steady drumbeat of antigovernment ideologues, it is a major factor in America's loss of faith in our institutions of government. It is that serious. All you have to do is look at the polling data and such things as decreased participation in voting. If this trend continues, if America goes downhill because of the lack of confidence in our Federal Government, I say that we face a crisis that could literally threaten the foundation of democracy in the United States. There is a remedy to avert this crisis, as I see it, and to begin the restoration of public support for this system of government. The remedy requires that we reform the campaign finance system. It is a wonderful place to start because it certainly needs reforming. Will this get a serious examination by Congress, or will we get sidetracked by a partisan political circus? The jury is definitely out on that at this time. We have before us a resolution to fund a Senate investigation which, if the scope were made broader than it currently is, has enormous potential as a tool to stimulate public pressure on Congress to enact meaningful campaign finance reform, honest campaign finance reform. Recent revelations about fundraising involving 1996 Federal races are disturbing. They involve both parties in both congressional and Presidential campaigns. The truth is that the current fundraising system, both Presidential and congressional, is scandalous. Having said that, in my opinion, most Members of Congress are honest elected officials, both over in the House and here in the Senate. They are honest elected officials trying to do a good job, albeit from different political philosophies. But that is our system. But the general public perception that money gets its way in determining policy is, indeed, true for too many. There is a public perception that access follows money, and anybody who has been around Capitol Hill very long knows that sometimes it does. Access can alter the balance of arguments weighed by a Member and his or her staff when deciding a course of action, be it a vote on the floor or in committee, a colloquy on the Senate floor, introduction or cosponsorship of a piece of legislation, floor speech, insertion of language in a committee report, or a communication with an executive branch agency requesting an action, or the withholding of an action. But even when there is no connection whatsoever between a donation by a person to a politician and the latter's specific action as a legislator favoring that person, the perception of a payoff, even the possibility of a perception of a payoff, is corrosive to public trust in our Government. We must dispel this growing perception that Congress or parts of Congress are for sale if we are to reverse electoral apathy and restore faith in our Government. Gift bans have not done it. Honoraria bans have not done it. Only deep changes in the campaign finance system will do the job, and it will not be easy. The question is what should be the relationship of the Governmental Affairs Committee investigation to the drive for effective bipartisan campaign finance reform? The resolution before us, S. 39, as amended by the Rules Committee, states that the supplemental funds to be given to the Governmental Affairs Committee for this investigation are for the sole purpose of an investigation into illegal activities in the 1996 Federal election campaign. There are two things wrong with this statement of scope for the investigation. The first thing is that it is a bald-faced attempt by the Republican majority of the Rules Committee to undo a unanimous bipartisan agreement among the members of the Governmental Affairs Committee to have a broad investigation that would examine improper as well as illegal activities along with previous campaigns. Contrary to the claims of the Rules Committee chairman that his language tracks the Watergate resolution, the fact is that the Watergate resolution called for an investigation of improper and unethical activities as well as illegal ones. I am looking at a copy of the Watergate resolution that was passed in the Senate back in 1973. It was submitted by Senator Ervin, Sam Ervin and Mike Mansfield. In part 15 on page 8, it says they are ``to look into any other activities, circumstances, materials or transactions having a tendency to prove or disprove that persons, acting either individually or in combination with others, engaged in any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972, or any campaign, canvas, or activity related to such election.'' That is the language of one of the parts of what the Watergate Committee was to look into--any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972. The narrowing of the scope of the Governmental Affairs investigation by the Rules Committee is nothing more than a blatant pander to those elements in the Republican Party that do not wish to reform the campaign finance system and who are quite willing to scuttle the Governmental Affairs investigation if necessary to avoid creating public pressure to pass a decent bill. How does narrowing the scope to illegal activities avoid this problem for the Republicans? The first thing to understand is that the problem with the campaign finance system is not just what politicians do that is illegal. It is what politicians do that is legal that is [[Page S2059]] an equal scandal, and it happens every single day on Capitol Hill and with both political parties. Let me give you an example. Let us talk about soft money. That is the best example. One of the most pernicious influences in politics these days is soft money. Let me give you an example of that. Let us say Senator X, whoever it might be, solicits $50,000 or $500,000 in soft money from a potential donor to his or her party, ostensibly for party- building purposes, get-out-the-vote drives or the like. But the party can then turn around and use the money on an issue ad during the Senator's reelection campaign that helps him or her and hurts the opponent. According to the Department of Justice, Senator X can even do the solicitation for that $500,000 from his or her office because the solicitation is not for his or her campaign specifically but, rather, for the Senator's party. This practice should be illegal, but it is not. Suppose Senator X wants a direct contribution to his or her campaign from a potential donor, direct to his personal campaign. In that case, Federal election law prohibits the donor from contributing more than $1,000 per person, and it must be in the donor's own name. But that same donor can go out and collect checks of $1,000 for Senator X from everyone he knows, bundle them together, and send them to the Senator's campaign. Let us say Senator X calls from the Senator's office for those donations. If Senator X calls, he is committing an illegal act. But if Senator X calls from outside, it is OK. Suppose Senator X is so grateful, wherever the call came from, for the donor's willingness to help that the next time the donor is in town and wants to talk to Senator X about a legislative matter he has an interest in, Senator X not only lets him into his office but he welcomes him and listens to his pitch. And suppose that Senator X is sufficiently concerned about maintaining the donor's political help that the Senator does what the donor wants on the issue and there was no discussion linking the donation to the donor's request or to the Senator's action. In that case, there has been no bribe. But it is certainly the case that Senator X made his decision on the issue as a result of the donor having had access to the Senator, access that was based at least in part on the donation the Senator was given. Now, suppose Senator X made the original call to the donor from the Senator's office phone instead of from an outside phone. That would be a violation of law. You cannot do that. Let me pose the question. Which is the worst ethical lapse, making the phone call from a legally prohibited place or letting the money influence the Senator's vote? I submit that the answer is not even close. Senator X's constituents and the people generally will have been ill served if he lets money influence his decision, and that overshadows the question of whether the phone he used was a private phone or a Government phone. What is the point of this fictitious example? Well, the resolution before us, which limits the scope of the investigation only to illegal activities, would allow an investigation of whether Senator X committed an illegal act by using a Government phone for the direct solicitation if there was an allegation that he had done so but would allow no investigation of the contribution, and if a soft money contribution was involved, whether Senator X's party had spent that money on certain ads helpful to the Senator's campaign, a legal practice but one that should be illegal. It is not just the independent expenditures by the major parties that is the problem. There are also the independent expenditures by outside private groups including tax-exempt organizations that should be investigated for possible collusion with party organizations. The Washington Post had an article yesterday concerning nonprofits. To quote them: ``Mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end of the 1996 election,'' that were targeted mainly against Democratic candidates. No one apparently knows who supports them. One group, the Coalition for Our Children's Future, spent $700,000 on ads, mailings, phone banks, to help Republican candidates from Louisiana to California. Another group, Citizens for Reform, spent $2 million on ads, including a mailing labeling a Democratic candidate for Congress as sexist and anticonsumer. And this organization is tax exempt. They are not supposed to deal in political matters. In the case of tax-exempt organizations, collusion with a political party would be illegal but would not involve criminal penalties. In the case of a so-called 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, which is prohibited from engaging in political activity, there is the question of whether the placing of certain issue ads should be considered political activity under certain circumstances. Will this be investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee under the funding resolutions' current scope statement? That will depend on how the word ``illegal'' is interpreted. I must say, at several points along the way we have had different interpretations of that word. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the Washington Post article be printed in the Record at the end of my remarks. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. (See exhibit 1.) Mr. GLENN. That is only the beginning of the problems with this resolution. It also requires that if any evidence of illegality is discovered in the 1996 campaign activities of a Member of Congress by a Member of Congress, then such evidence is to be referred to the Ethics Committee. Does that mean the committee's investigation is to be terminated at that point? And, if the evidence comes to the attention of the committee before an investigation has even been initiated, does that mean the committee is to defer to the Ethics Committee for the investigation of the Member? Does referral to the Ethics Committee mean that Governmental Affairs will defer to the Ethics Committee on any possible criminal referral to the Department of Justice? We need answers to all of those things, obviously. What if we are into an investigation and there is something that pops up that looks as though it might be an ethical matter and might be illegal, which this committee would be permitted to deal with? Since there is this special provision with regard to ethics in the Senate, in referring it to the Ethics Committee, do we have to stop any investigation before anything comes out beyond a point where there has been just an allegation of illegality? So, let me return to the question of the meaning of the word ``illegal'' in the resolution. What is the standard to be used by the Governmental Affairs Committee to determine that an activity involves an illegality and is therefore subject to an investigation? Is illegality meant to be equivalent to criminality? Or is it broader and includes activities that are in violation of law but subject to only civil penalties or no penalties at all? The answer to this question will determine whether the activities of tax-exempt organizations engaged in political activity will be investigated. I believe the questions I am raising need to be answered during this debate so Members will know precisely what they are voting on when the time comes. These questions also need to be answered in order to examine whether the 54 subpoenas issued thus far by the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee are within the new scope of the investigation. Let me turn to some other deficiencies in the resolution. These are also deficiencies of omission. My remarks stem once again from my belief that a balanced investigation of fundraising by both parties, highlighting legal transgressions as well as their legal but ethically dubious fundraising activities, could be effective in pointing the way toward real reform. Conversely, an unbalanced, partisan investigation suggesting that the problems lie solely or even mainly with one party would be destructive to forging a consensus and would lead to political games, possibly including an attempt to pass reform legislation crafted not so much to fix the system as to give one party a fundraising advantage over the other. As the ranking Democrat on Governmental Affairs, I have urged the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee to follow standard Senate practices and enter into a written agreement that the investigation will be [[Page S2060]] carried out in a bipartisan manner with an agreed-upon agenda and with fairness. That involves ensuring that both the majority and minority: have contemporaneous access to all documentary evidence received by the committee; have the right to be given adequate advance notice of, to be present at, and to participate equally in all depositions and investigatory interviews; have equal opportunity to obtain and present relevant evidence on the subjects of the committee's inquiry; and, are treated equally and without discrimination in the discharge of the committee's administrative responsibilities. I regret to say that no agreement on these matters has been reached thus far. This has most egregiously shown up in the way subpoenas have been handled thus far. I am hopeful that passage of a funding resolution for the committee's investigation will be the occasion to put this investigation back on a bipartisan track. I believe that failure to do so will redound to the credit of no one and mark the first major stain on this committee's record of bipartisan cooperation during my 22-year tenure on it. Finally, I must comment on that part of the resolution that provides for authorization of some $450,000 in additional funds for the Rules Committee to examine those aspects of campaign fundraising that are outside the scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation under the terms of this resolution as currently written. It is certainly true that the Rules Committee has legislative jurisdiction over campaign finance reform and, therefore, can look into soft money and independent expenditures, among other things, as policy matters. But the Rules Committee is not basically an investigative committee. I could not recall the last time it ever issued a subpoena. We made some inquiry into this and found that no subpoenas have been issued by the committee since at least 1980. We do not know whether any were before that time or not. They may do hearings, but that is not the same as an investigation as conceived under this resolution. Let us not deceive the public about this. Recent press reports clearly indicated that at least two members of the Rules Committee, Republican members of the Rules Committee, would not vote for the funding resolution for the investigation that originally came out of the Governmental Affairs Committee because the scope of the investigation would have included legal as well as illegal congressional fundraising practices. Those Members were concerned that the result of such an investigation might be to raise public pressure on Congress to pass campaign finance reform legislation. The fact is, there is little support for campaign reform among my Republican colleagues. The McCain-Feingold bill has only one other Republican cosponsor, and that is Senator Thompson, to his credit. So we know what game is being played with the Rules Committee rewrite of the previously-agreed-to scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation. It is a game in which legal but improper congressional fundraising is kept off the table while a parade of Presidential fundraisers for the Democratic Party and the Clinton-Gore campaign are brought before the cameras at televised hearings, to give the impression that all the problems are with the Democratic Party and there is no need to change the laws. I do not believe it will work. I do not believe the American people are that naive. I believe they will see through such a strategy were it to unfold. Chairman Thompson has said congressional fundraising should be on the table. I agree with him. That is one of the reasons I was disappointed when none of his first 65 subpoenas were directed toward congressional fundraising. I and my Democratic colleagues will attempt to broaden the scope to include legal activities that are improper, which is where many of the major campaign finance problems are, and which should be thoroughly investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee. So, I hope--in fact I invite Chairman Thompson to join me in cosponsoring an amendment I plan to offer to broaden the scope, and I invite him to join me in voting against tabling any such amendment. I also invite all Members of the Senate, Democratic and Republican, who truly want to change our system to join us. Let us look at it from your children's perspective of 20 years from now. Whichever party is in the majority--and that may have changed in that time, maybe before that--but look at your children as adults out there, taking part in the political system at that time. Whichever party is in the majority at that time, I am sure we can all hope that political fundraising will not be the mess that it is today. One way to gain that end is to assure that investigations are carried out now without fear or favor and spotlighting the dark corners, whether illegal or legal, but in either event, wrong, improper, and unethical. The resolution before us does not take us in that direction, and that is why I also urge Senator Thompson, even if we fail to pass such an amendment, to seek every opportunity at our committee level to examine and thoroughly investigate any alleged illegal fundraising activities by Members of Congress, in the House or Senate. That will at least be a start, and I pledge my full support to such efforts. So I await with interest his proposed agenda and subpoenas in this area. At the appropriate time today, before we finish this debate, I will have an amendment to submit. I would like to lay it down this evening. I doubt all the people on either side of the aisle who wish to speak on the amendment will return before we go out of session, but I would like to have time later on to submit the amendment before we go out of session this evening. I yield the floor. Exhibit 1 [From the Washington Post, Mar. 9, 1997] For Their Targets, Mystery Groups' Ads Hit Like Attacks From Nowhere (By Charles R. Babcock and Ruth Marcus) Campaign watchdog groups and government regulators are concerned about the emergence of mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end the 1996 election and could play an even larger role in coming campaigns. The groups, with bland names such as Citizens for Reform and the Republic Education Fund, spent millions of dollars on television advertising, mailings and telephone banks in the closing weeks of the campaign, mostly on the side of the Republicans. None of their activities was reported to the Federal Election Commission (FEC). ``The public has no idea who these people are or where they're coming from or who funds them,'' said Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, which monitors political ethics. ``They are trying to influence the political process and the public is in the dark.'' For example, a group called the Coalition for Our Children's Future spent more than $700,000 on television and radio ads, mailings, and telephone banks to bolster GOP candidates in key races from Louisiana to California. The last-minute onslaught, financed in part by a donor who demanded a written confidentiality agreement, was conducted without the knowledge or approval of the group's directors. Two of the directors resigned in protest after The Washington Post informed them of the late ads, saying they never approved the expenditures. They said they still do not know exactly what was done or the source of funding. Former director Deborah Steelman, a GOP lobbyist, said she thought the group had been inactive since spending more than $4 million on advertising backing the GOP's legislative agenda in 1995. ``Clearly, the organization created another mission of which we were not a part,'' she said. Like the more identifiable AFL-CIO and environmental groups that also ran advertising, leaders of organizations such as the coalition say their television commercials were not political because they did not explicitly endorse a candidate. Since they were engaging in ``issue advocacy,'' they said, they were not required to report to the FEC the source of their funds or how much they spent. One group created last spring and calling itself Citizens for Reform spent $2 million in the closing days, according to its president, conservative activist Peter Flaherty. In California, it sent mailings into the district of Democratic Rep. George Brown accusing him of being sexist and anti- consumer. The Consumer Federation of America, cited as the source in one flier although it endorsed Brown, denounced the mailing as ``extremely misleading and grossly unfair.'' In Montana, the group bought television time calling Democratic congressional candidate Bill Yellowtail a convicted criminal who ``preaches family values . . . but took a swing at his wife.'' Another new group called Citizens for the Republic Educaiton Fund obtained at least $1 million in late ads, according to director Lyn Nofziger, longtime political aide to Ronald Reagan. In Texas, it bought television ads against Democratic congressional candidate Nick Lampson that said he had been [[Page S2061]] accused of Medicare fraud. In Erie, Pa., another television ad denounced ``big labor bosses'' for trying to buy ``a Congress they can control.'' Some ads were so inflammatory that the Republican candidates they were designed to help denounced them. And some stations would not run some ads or pulled them off the air after complaints by Democratic candidates. Leaders of the groups targeting Democrats say they operated independently and they and GOP officials said the groups were not fronts for the party. Nofziger called it, ``outrageous'' that advocacy groups like his are allowed to ``go and run political ads and call them education.'' He added, ``We wouldn't have had to do it if it had not been for labor'' and its attacks on GOP candidates. The Flaherty and Nofziger groups were run by a Washington- based firm, Triad Management, that advertises itself as sort of an underground version of the Republican Party. A Triad marketing video includes testimonials from Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.) and several House members aimed at recruiting donors for what the video labels a ``privatized Republican national coalition.'' Triad's Carolyn Malenick, a former fund-raiser for Oliver L. North, says on the video that labor has always been the ``rapid fire'' of the Democratic Party. ``If the Republican Party needs that quote `rapid fire' where're we going to find it?'' she said. ``If we need to move or have $100,000 put into a congressional race tomorrow where're we going to find it?'' Malenick declined to be interviewed. Mark Braden, Triad's attorney, said the group was not a front for the GOP or a particular special interest, like the tobacco industry. Malenick's donors are mostly individuals from ``ideologically driven networks,'' he said. While most of the late negative issue ads with mysterious sponsors targeted Democratic races, a labor-funded group, the '96 Project, paid for voter guides mailed in the name of other groups in 14 races. The project paid $50,000 for mailings in six House districts where the fliers said they were ``sponsored'' by local or state affiliates of the National Council of Senior Citizens, a group made up predominantly of retired union members. There was no mention of the '96 Project in the mailings. Scott Wolf, director of the project, said there was no intent to deceive the public on who was behind the mailings, which made GOP candidates look unfavorable on key issues. His group also paid for mailings in eight races ``sponsored'' by the Interfaith Alliance, a group of ministers formed as an alternative to the Christian Coalition, according to the alliance's Greg Lebel. Lebel said ``it never occurred to us'' voters might be misled because the eight mailings said only that the '96 Project ``prepared'' the voter guides. Most of the late money from obscure groups was spent on television. And Federal Communications Commission officials who monitor political advertising say their authority over broadcasters is limited. Charles Kelley, chief of enforcement for the FCC's mass media bureau, said the agency wants to know ``who is the attempted persuader'' in such ads. The question, he said, is ``what legal authority we have, if any, to obligate the true sponsor to step forward.'' The FCC managed to do that in a case in Oregon last fall, when it discovered that a group calling itself Fairness Matters to Oregonians was being financed by the Tobacco Institute. The FCC ruled the group's ads, which opposed an increase in the state cigarette tax, could be aired but the tobacco Institute had to be identified as the sponsor. Various campaign reform proposals in Congress attempt to address the late attacks by saying the name or image of candidates cannot be mentioned in ads in the last 60 days before the general election. But many lawmakers and interest groups say such proposals would put unconstitutional limits on their First Amendment rights. Flaherty, who also heads the Conservative Campaign Fund PAC, said concerns about sponsorship are misplaced. ``Most people when they see an ad don't focus on who put it on, but focus on the message,'' he said. ``If the message has strength and credibility it will persuade people. If it doesn't, it won't.'' In applying for tax-exempt status, which allowed it to avoid paying taxes on investment income, Citizens for Reform told the IRS it had no plans to spend money ``attempting to influence'' elections. But asked whether the groups' advertising had been effective, Flaherty said, ``I think we made a big difference. It was an absolute onslaught in some of these areas by labor and liberal groups and I think we helped stanch the bleeding artery.'' Perhaps the most peculiar of the late ad campaigns was the one run in the name of the Coalition for our Children's Future, which spent money in six House districts, the Louisiana Senate race and 12 Minnesota legislative races, according to Executive Director Barry Bennett. Two directors, Dirk Van Dongen, president of the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors, and Donald L. Fierce, a GOP consultant and former Republican National Committee aide, resigned in protest; two others, Steelman and Gary Andres, had left the board earlier. How the unauthorized advertising campaign was launched and how races were targeted remains murky. Bennett, working in Ohio at the time of the election as chief of staff to then- Rep. Frank A. Cremeans (R), at first said he did not know of any extensive late advertising. Then he acknowledged he had signed the secrecy agreement with the donor and signed blank checks to pay a Houston political consultant who ran the advertising campaign. Bennett said he did so without telling board members. Bennett and the group's fund-raising consultant, John Simms, said the consultant, Denis Calabrese, approached them last summer and helped connect them with some donors, who they declined to identify. Calabrese, who has worked on industry's side to make it harder to win large damage awards in lawsuits, did not return numerous phone calls. Bennett said he had tried without success, after the Post inquiries, to obtain copies of the television scripts from Simms' firm. He said he had no idea what the coalition, organized to address federal issues, was doing in Minnesota statehouse races. ``Am I embarrassed by this?'' Bennett said before he stopped returning phone calls. ``Yes . . . I understand we've created a huge mystery here and that's our fault.'' Mr. WARNER addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Allard). The Senator from Virginia. Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, there are others anxious to speak to this. I see Senator Hatch is here, and I want to, just in reply to my distinguished friend and colleague, say a few words here, and then Senator Hatch, hopefully, will take the floor momentarily. First, I want to make it very clear, I am not going to personalize this debate in any way or use the word ``pandering.'' Nobody is pandering anybody around here. What we are trying to do is how to get as quickly as possible to the point where the U.S. Senate, in several committees, can start looking into this very important issue, hopefully in a fair and objective manner, for the best interests of this institution and our country. I have been in politics--I am almost hesitant to mention how many years--but it is a good 40-plus, and I have never in my lifetime ever seen a situation engulfing this great Nation, casting more doubt in the minds of the voters with regard to how we, those who serve in the Congress and those who serve in the executive branch as the President and Vice President, go about the process of elections, and we have to get at the bottom of this thing as quickly as possible. I have indicated my support for Chairman Fred Thompson as a man I have absolute faith in, who can deal with this matter fairly and objectively, and I have said that for weeks. Never once have I deviated, and I do not think there will ever be a basis that I shall deviate. I said from the beginning that I want to support him as an individual. I want to support the work of his committee. But there is a very careful delineation of responsibilities here among the several committees, and there is clearly, within the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, which I am privileged to chair, the right to superimpose our own judgment on the scope and activities of the other committees of the Senate as it relates to those funds under our jurisdiction. This is in no way any bald-faced effort by myself or other members of the Rules Committee, particularly the distinguished majority leader, who was just on the floor consulting with me minutes ago, no way to try to do other than what I have just said, which is to get the Senate on the track as quickly as possible. We just have to get beyond all of this procedure business and get on with the business. I said that I drew this scope language, drawing from the Watergate. I never said I used it. I have read it now probably 25 times and studied the history of it. I know all the words that are in it. It is interesting. In the Watergate resolution, I ask my friend, if he wants to debate it later on, whether or not you find any authority in there to investigate the Congress. I do not find it in the Watergate resolution, but it is very clearly expressed in this resolution as adopted by the Rules Committee. We in no way tried to obfuscate that issue. This volume is the ``Authority and Rules of Senate Committees'' for the last fiscal year, but it is applicable to this. I would like to just read the question of jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, and it is found on page 155 of that book. It states we have the authority to investigate ``corrupt practices.'' Now that is about as broad as any charter can be--as broad as any charter can be. Then go to section 5: [[Page S2062]] Federal elections generally, including the election of the President, Vice President, and Members of the Congress. There it is. That is the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee. Now go over to the jurisdiction of the Governmental Affairs Committee--and I urge my colleague from Ohio to take a moment or two to look through this book so that he can reply--found on page 101, and in detail on page 102, where it says, the committee is duly authorized, or a subcommittee thereof is authorized to study and investigate. You do not find--at least I haven't thus far in studying it--that precise language as it relates to the Rules Committee concerning jurisdiction over precisely what it is that the U.S. Senate must investigate. If anything, this volume gives clearly the authority to the Rules Committee, and I find less specificity as it relates to the Governmental Affairs Committee. Lastly, as to campaign finance reform, the generic subject, the Rules Committee held a number of hearings last year. We already commenced our series of hearings this year. The distinguished majority leader designated the majority whip, Mr. Nickles, and a group of us, including the Senator from Virginia speaking, and it is our responsibility to try to come up with a grouping of proposals which we have reason to believe will effect the greatest possible reform in this generic subject of campaign finance reform. You bet there are areas which I would like to see changed. In my last campaign, I experienced spending by my opponent--and I do not castigate him in any way at this point in time, nor did I ever--but clearly he had the authority under the Supreme Court decision to spend all the money of his personal funds he wished. He set a record in the history of the U.S. Senate races from the first day this body was constituted through and including today for the greatest amount of money spent for a State per capita in the United States. I think we should enact some legislation that would curtail, in some manner, the limit of an individual to expend millions and millions and millions of dollars. In the case of my race, it is presumably in excess, it was reported, $10 million out of personal spending. Maybe subsequent records will show an additional amount, but that is not here to argue. The point being, the only way that can be done is by a constitutional amendment. I would not want to see this body rest its entire package of reforms that a constitutional amendment is going to be adopted in this area of campaign finance reform. My own personal opinion, it is highly unlikely that such an amendment, even though I would favor certain types of constitutional amendments on campaign reform, that that can be achieved; essentially, the first amendment, which, again, would require a constitutional amendment. There are many areas of campaign finance reform that would be solely predicated on the ability to get a constitutional amendment in order to achieve those goals. I would not want to see this body pass a package of campaign finance reform proposals knowing full well in our hearts that the Federal court is going to strike down in large measure a number of those provisions. So I look forward to continuing to work with the distinguished majority leader and the majority whip in seeing what we can come up with in a package of campaign finance reform proposals which can be adopted by this body and, Mr. President, can withstand the essential scrutiny that will come about by the third branch of Government, namely, the Federal court system. Mr. President, I now yield the floor. Mr. HATCH addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah. Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, it befalls me to make a few comments here today concerning why this investigation is so important. Before I do, I want to compliment the Rules Committee and the people on the Rules Committee who have handled this very difficult subject matter and have done it in a credible and responsible way. I also personally believe that no two people could handle this matter better than the chairman and ranking member of the Governmental Affairs Committee. Senator Thompson has had extensive experience in these matters and Senator Glenn is known as an eminently fair and worthy person here in this body. I have total confidence in both of them that they will be fair, they will be thorough, they will be tough, and they will do what is right. We simply have to get to the bottom of this. The American people are concerned about it. Certainly the media has written extensively about these matters. It is incumbent upon the Senate in its oversight capacity to investigate these matters fairly and thoroughly. As we take up Senate Resolution 39 today, I would like to just take a few minutes to emphasize one major point: That there is a serious number of very, very troubling matters to investigate, simply at the very core of Senators Thompson's and Glenn's inquiry. Merely in recent press reports--if that is all you had--there are very substantial and troubling questions that must be answered regarding whether foreign money and foreign influence has infiltrated the American political process. While numerous other allegations of improper fundraising at the White House and by the White House have surfaced in the media in the past week or so, that is not what I want to talk about today. Even putting aside all of those allegations, the fact is that we have before us very serious allegations that China funneled funds into American elections in an attempt to influence American policy and policymakers. The gravity of these allegations should not and must not be underestimated. Were our national interests sold out? I hope they were not. But this matter must be pursued, and it must be done in a thorough, fair, and honest manner. Later this week the Judiciary Committee will forward a letter to the Attorney General requesting that she apply for an independent counsel. To date, she has refused to do so in this matter. I do not read anything sinister into that--I believe that the Attorney General is an honorable, ethical person of integrity. She has applied for the appointment of no less than four independent counsels since she has been Attorney General. I think she has shown that she is a person who can act. But to date she has refused to act on this matter. Accordingly, Congress must be all the more vigilant. And given the apparent conflict of interest, the public will be relying on Congress to ascertain the facts and get to the bottom of this whole affair. The Governmental Affairs Committee inquiry into fundraising improprieties is, in my opinion, one of the most important congressional investigations in history and involves some of the most serious allegations we have seen to date about our electoral system and our Government. The press and congressional committees have uncovered material facts that prompt numerous questions: First, did a foreign government try to influence our national elections and our domestic and/or foreign policy? No. 2, were millions of dollars of foreign money laundered through various groups to the Democratic National Committee, particularly by three individuals--Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, and John Huang, all of whom have some ties to China. No. 3, were there violations of any of our existing laws, such as the Hatch Act, the Ethics in Government Act, and our current Federal elections laws? The breadth of this particular investigation is immense. We cannot allow ourselves, in an attempt to satisfy the tendentious cause for a broad inquiry into congressional campaigns, to interfere with what is a serious matter. Investigating the 1996 Presidential campaign alone will require a very substantial budget and a substantial amount of time--I presume even more time than the Rules Committee has allowed in this instance, which is only until the end of this year or approximately 8 months. I suspect this will go on beyond that and will have to go on beyond that because of what will be brought out. Let us focus for a moment, however, in terms of the breadth of this investigation, on one individual--Mr. John Huang. He was born in China. He worked for the Lippo Group, a huge conglomerate based in Indonesia with large business interests in China. Lippo is owned and controlled by the Riady family-- Mochtar, James, and Stephen. These are also Chinese natives. [[Page S2063]] By 1994, Huang was the top Lippo executive in the United States. Huang was appointed Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Economic Policy in our Department of Commerce in September 1994. Let me just go down through what John Huang did while employed at Commerce--just a quick glance. He was, according to reports, given a top security clearance without the usual background check, which is all but unheard of; 78-plus visits to the White House; 70-plus calls to Lippo during this period of time; 39 classified top secret briefings dwelling on China and other countries in Asia; 30-plus phone conversations with Mark Middleton or associates; 9 phone messages from or calls to Webster Hubbell; 9 phone messages from the Chinese Embassy officials; 5 months of top secret clearance before joining the Commerce Department. In other words, even before he got in this very important position in Government, he had 5 months of top secret clearance. Why? That is a question that is going to be a big question in this matter. Huang enjoyed a top secret clearance for 5 months of top secret clearance before joining Commerce and nearly a year after leaving Commerce to join the Democratic National Committee. Why? Why would those security clearances go with him outside of Government? Why would he be permitted this kind of access to very sensitive information? These are questions that are very important. Taken with the $780,000 severance pay Huang received from Lippo prior to joining the Commerce Department, these facts naturally raise questions. This next chart involves a meeting at the White House to discuss the Huang transfer from the White House to the Democratic National Committee on September 13, 1995. It was an Oval Office meeting. The President was there. James Riady, the Lippo executive was there. Bruce Lindsey, the Deputy White House Counsel, was there. Joseph Giroir, who is, I believe, the former top partner in the Rose Law Firm, the Lippo joint venture partner/adviser, former Rose Law Firm partner, and, if I recall correctly, was the managing partner of that firm, and none other than John Huang, former Lippo executive, Principal Deputy Assistant, Secretary of Commerce. At this meeting, it was decided that John Huang would move from the Commerce Department to the Democratic National Committee as vice chairman of finance. We do not know what happened at this meeting, although some extremely troubling explanations have been reported by the media. Each one of these people, it seems to me, with the possible exception of the President, will have to be questioned regarding just what went on at that meeting, why Huang left Commerce, and why he was immediately transferred to the Democratic National Committee as the finance vice chairman, why James Riady, was even at this meeting. That is a very important meeting. Let me put another chart up here. This is John Huang at the Democratic National Committee. These are examples of illegal funds raised by Huang. The Wiriadinatas raised $450,000, all of which was returned by the DNC. Pauline Kanchanalak, $250,000. She has since left the country. She is now in Thailand. All funds returned by the DNC. Wogesh Gandhi, $250,000. He testified he had no assets. All funds returned by the DNC, the Democratic National Committee. Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--$250,000. Like Kanchanalak and others, Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--has disappeared. All of these funds were returned by the Democratic National Committee. Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple, $166,750: This comes from a temple where the residents take a vow of poverty; $74,000 of the $166,750 was returned by the DNC. All together, that we know of, John Huang raised $3.4 million, $1.6 million of which has been returned by the Democratic National Committee. These are just a few of some of the problems that I think the Governmental Affairs Committee is going to have to go into. I do not see how they can avoid doing it. To give a picture of some of the people who seem to be involved in this, let me just highlight some of the other individuals involved in this affair. We start with John Huang, former top Lippo executive in the United States, who had a $780,000 severance package when he went to Congress. He had multiple contacts while there with Lippo. The former Democratic National Committee vice chairman raised more than $3.4 million, $1.6 million was returned, and he visited the White House during this period more than 75 times. C.J. Giroir, in the Lippo joint ventures, former Rose Law Firm attorney, met with James Riady, President Clinton, and Lindsey on the Huang move to DNC, and donated $25,000 to the DNC. Mark Middleton, former White House aide from Little Rock, met with James Riady and President Clinton on that occasion, Far East business interests, had unlimited access to the White House after his departure. Charles Trie, Little Rock restauranteur, received a $60,000 loan from Lippo, and he arranged with the former Lippo executive Antonio Pan to get a Hong Kong dinner for Ron Brown. Trie also attempted to give $600,000 to the Clinton legal trust fund, and he visited the White House at least 37 times. Mark Grobmyer, Little Rock attorney, close friend of President Clinton, consultant to Lippo, Far East business interests, met with James Riady, Huang and President Clinton. Soraya Wiriadinata, daughter of Hashin Ning, former Lippo executive, contributed $450,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned, according to the committee. Soraya has gone back to Indonesia. S. Wang Jun, Lippo joint ventures, Chinese arms merchant, senior executive at CITIC and COSTIND, Chinese Government entities, and attended a White House conference. Webster Hubbell, former Associate Attorney General, received a $250,000 consulting fee from Lippo--would not say why he got that. Charles DeQueljoe is the president of Lippo Securities in Jakarta, gave $70,000 to the Democratic National Committee and was appointed to the USTR office. Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai lobbyist who worked with Huang when he was at Lippo, contributed $253,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned. She had frequent contacts with Huang. She visited the White House at least 26 times. And then we come back to John Huang himself. Now, all of these people are going to have to be interviewed. We are going to have to find out what the facts are here. What was going on? Were there illegalities? In that regard, these are key players who have taken the fifth amendment: John Huang, Charlie Trie, Pauline Kanchanalak, Mark Middleton, and Webster Hubbell. I do not see how anybody on the other side of the floor can argue that this set of hearings should not go on, or that this would not take almost every second of any committee's time, and I am only talking about one aspect of it. There are many other aspects to this. The key players who have left the country--and we have not been given reasons why they left the country--are John H.K. Lee--gone. If he is going to be interviewed, it is overseas. Charlie Trie, gone, after taking the fifth. Pauline Kanchanalak, gone--as far as I know, back in Thailand, after having taken the fifth amendment. Arief and Soraya Wiriadinata, gone. Charles DeQueljoe, gone. And James and Mochtar Riady, gone. They left the country. All this is a brief discussion of one aspect of this. There are other aspects of this, but this is a brief glimpse into some of the serious allegations the Government Oversight Committee will have to look into. I emphasize the point with which I opened, just that at the core of this investigation is a vast series of matters which must be looked into. This will be one of the most important congressional investigations in history. I hope it is not obstructed by partisan tactics and politics. I hope with all my heart it is not. I think the American people expect as much. When I found out over the weekend that the FBI--and I did not know this before--had notified seven Members of Congress that they might be receiving laundered funds from a foreign country, mainly China, I was kind of shocked at that, because if they informed those seven Members of Congress, surely the FBI informed the White House. I have been led to believe by the FBI they informed the National Security Council. That being the case, [[Page S2064]] why are all these people having such access to our White House under those circumstances? As chairman of the Judiciary Committee, as chairman of the committee that oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, naturally, I have to be concerned about it. Now, in addition to all of this, there are newer revelations coming out every day. I challenge the Government Affairs Committee to substantiate these allegations, to look into them. Let me just list some of the new revelations about the campaign finance scandals that were first reported after the Governmental Affairs Committee made a request of $6.5 million to investigate the scandal. First, Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes made a telephone call from Air Force One to warn of the wiring of the money to the Democratic National Committee and additional funds to nonprofit organizations. There is some indication they used Air Force One for the purpose of raising funds. I hope that is not the case. Second, questions have been raised concerning whether the White House database was created for official--as opposed to political--purposes, since it contained individuals' Social Security numbers, nicknames, relations to the First Family, pet political issues, and sometimes a photograph. Third, China may have sought to influence U.S. policy through the direction of foreign campaign contributions to the Democratic National Committee and actions taken at the Chinese embassy. It has been disclosed that Huang had contacts with the embassy while he worked at Commerce. Fourth, the NSC, National Security Council, at the White House provided the White House with warnings about Johnny Chung, who has ties to the Chinese Government, who was nonetheless subsequently granted access to the White House on numerous occasions, even though they knew about those ties. Fifth, Huang approached two business associates and offered to pay them $45,000 if they would take $250,000 from him and donate it in their own names to the Democratic National Committee. That is illegal. Sixth, the White House fired four staff members whose salaries were being paid by the Democratic National Committee while they were working at the White House. I don't know whether that has ever been done before, but it should not be done. There are other allegat

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AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS


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AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
(Senate - March 10, 1997)

Text of this article available as: TXT PDF [Pages S2057-S2078] AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will now proceed to the consideration of Senate Resolution 39, which the clerk will report. The bill clerk read as follows: A resolution (S. Res. 39) authorizing expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs. The Senate proceeded to consider the bill, which had been reported from the Committee on Rules and Administration, with an amendment to strike all after the resolving clause and insert the following: That (a) Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``Authorization of Additional Funds ``Sec. 24. (a) In General.--A sum equal to not more than $4,350,000, for the period beginning on the date of adoption of this section and ending on December 31, 1997, shall be made available from the contingent fund of the Senate out of the Account for Expenses for Inquiries and Investigations for payment of salaries and other expenses of the Committee on Governmental Affairs under this resolution, of which amount not to exceed $375,000 may be expended for the procurement of the services of individual consultants, or organizations thereof (as authorized by section 202(i) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946, as amended). The expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs authorized by this section supplement those authorized in section 13 and may be expended solely for the purpose stated in this section. ``(b) Purpose of Additional Funds.--The additional funds authorized by this section are for the sole purpose of conducting an investigation of illegal activities in connection with 1996 Federal election campaigns. ``(c) Referral To Select Committee on Ethics.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall refer any evidence of illegal activities involving any Member of the Senate revealed pursuant to the investigation authorized by subsection (b) to the Select Committee on Ethics. ``(d) Final Report.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall submit a final public report to the Senate no later than January 31, 1998, of the results of the investigation, study, and hearings conducted by the Committee pursuant to this section.''. (b) Section 16(b) of Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by-- (1) striking ``$1,339,109'' and inserting $1,789,109''; and (2) striking ``$200,000'' and inserting $300,000''. (c) The Committee on Rules and Administration shall continue to conduct hearings on campaign reform. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, on Thursday of last week, the Rules Committee reported out an amendment to Senate Resolution 39, and it is my understanding that the present business is that pending amendment, which does amend, if decided by the Senate, rule 39. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, I thank the Chair. We will now proceed to discuss the amendment as passed by the Rules Committee on Thursday of last week, the 6th of March. Madam President, the responsibility of the Rules Committee is to entertain, from all committees of the U.S. Senate, their requests for funding. We have, in Senate Resolution 54, which has been adopted by the Senate, the budgets for all of the committees of the Senate for their fiscal year, which runs from March 1 through February 28. The Committee on Governmental Affairs, in Senate Resolution 39, submitted their request for funding. In the initial consideration of Senate Resolution 39 by the Rules Committee, the committee determined that they would grant a portion of the funding request, and that is reflected in Senate Resolution 54. The Governmental Affairs Committee still had, under Senate Resolution 39, the balance of their request, which was considered on the 6th of March by the Rules Committee. After a full debate--and certainly in the judgment of the chairman, myself, and actively participated in by Senators on both sides, as we had nearly 100 percent attendance at the committee hearing on both sides--the committee voted to provide $4.35 million for the Committee on Governmental affairs as a supplemental to the request as reported in Senate Resolution 54. Now, how did we arrive at that figure? You can look at the request of the distinguished Senator from Ohio--indeed, a request that, by and large, was supported by most on that side of the aisle--that there be a definitive date for cutoff, and that date by the senior Senator from Ohio was December 31 of this calendar year, 1997. If I took that and viewed it as a reduced period of time; namely, that the Governmental Affairs Committee could begin its work using the supplemental funds, March 15, from a practical standpoint, through December 31, 1997, it would appear to this Senator that we would have, by and large, given that committee the funding profile in dollars in proportion to the timing from which those funds may be expended. The next question was the scope. I worked with other colleagues, primarily those on the Rules Committee, and I devised a formula, in consultation with the distinguished majority leader and others, whereby looking at the original Watergate resolution, we took from that the concept that we would allow the Governmental Affairs Committee to expend the supplemental budget for such investigations that they felt were illegal in connection with the 1996 Presidential election and congressional elections--not delineating between the House and Senate, but simply all Federal elections in calendar year 1996. So it seems to me that the Rules Committee, in a fair manner, recognized the dollars that we needed, gave the Governmental Affairs Committee a scope of the investigation and illegal--illegal is a very broad scope. It goes beyond. And I will at a later time today put into the Record the definitions of illegal. But it goes beyond just criminal assertions of allegations of criminal violations. It goes beyond that. So it is a broad scope. Then the Rules Committee took from the proposal, which the senior Senator from Ohio will address momentarily, a termination date of December 31, 1997. In addition to the Rules Committee, I think very importantly recognizing the essential need for the Senate of the United States to actively participate in determining what happened, certainly in 1996 in connection with the ever-increasing number of allegations--most [[Page S2058]] of them regrettably could border on or do, in fact, constitute illegal--it was essential that the other committees of the Senate take on their responsibilities, which is traditional under the allocation in the Senate of the responsibilities among the several committees. Therefore, we charged the Rules Committee, of which I am privileged to be the chairman, the duty to continue its hearings on campaign finance reform, gave it a sum of $450,000 to be used by that committee in enlarging and broadening the scope of their operations in the overall context of campaign reform and campaign financing. So the Rules Committee will take on an added role. In addition, if there is that development by the Governmental Affairs Committee or the Rules Committee of facts which should be examined by the Ethics Committee of the U.S. Senate as those facts relate to a Member of this body, it will be incumbent upon the Ethics Committee to review any allegations we feel merit the judgment of that committee as it relates to an individual in the U.S. Senate. So, Madam President, I feel that the Rules Committee unanimously, regrettably--bipartisan, yet unanimous among the Republicans--has addressed this tough issue, and we are here today for the purpose of amending Senate Resolution 39 such that they can have the additional funds and under a very carefully crafted and proscribed scope of activities within a time limit of December 31, 1997. Madam President, I yield the floor so that my distinguished colleague from Ohio can present his views. Mr. GLENN addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Ohio. Mr. GLENN. Madam President, we are now into the second week in March. The Senate has been operating for approximately 2 months. I don't know that we have had much in the way of accomplishment during that time period. Certainly, there are national problems that should be addressed. For example, we ought to be working on balancing the budget instead of just trying to pass amendments, which we tried to do, and it failed. We also have a series of problems with our health care system. Managed care may be saving money, but there is increasing evidence that it is happening at the expense of lower quality of health care. So, for uninsured Americans, that continues to be a major problem. As far as health care goes, we are going to have a debate, I guess, about partial-birth abortion. In other areas, the stock market has gone through the roof. Unemployment is at a 25-year low. But there is concern about the future, and about Social Security and Medicare. But there are no serious proposals by the Republican majority to deal with these issues. Well, today we have an opportunity. We have an opportunity to have the possibility of beginning a serious discussion about a serious issue: the campaign finance system used by both political parties in the United States. The American people are disgusted by what they see in campaign finance. And they should be. Along with the steady drumbeat of antigovernment ideologues, it is a major factor in America's loss of faith in our institutions of government. It is that serious. All you have to do is look at the polling data and such things as decreased participation in voting. If this trend continues, if America goes downhill because of the lack of confidence in our Federal Government, I say that we face a crisis that could literally threaten the foundation of democracy in the United States. There is a remedy to avert this crisis, as I see it, and to begin the restoration of public support for this system of government. The remedy requires that we reform the campaign finance system. It is a wonderful place to start because it certainly needs reforming. Will this get a serious examination by Congress, or will we get sidetracked by a partisan political circus? The jury is definitely out on that at this time. We have before us a resolution to fund a Senate investigation which, if the scope were made broader than it currently is, has enormous potential as a tool to stimulate public pressure on Congress to enact meaningful campaign finance reform, honest campaign finance reform. Recent revelations about fundraising involving 1996 Federal races are disturbing. They involve both parties in both congressional and Presidential campaigns. The truth is that the current fundraising system, both Presidential and congressional, is scandalous. Having said that, in my opinion, most Members of Congress are honest elected officials, both over in the House and here in the Senate. They are honest elected officials trying to do a good job, albeit from different political philosophies. But that is our system. But the general public perception that money gets its way in determining policy is, indeed, true for too many. There is a public perception that access follows money, and anybody who has been around Capitol Hill very long knows that sometimes it does. Access can alter the balance of arguments weighed by a Member and his or her staff when deciding a course of action, be it a vote on the floor or in committee, a colloquy on the Senate floor, introduction or cosponsorship of a piece of legislation, floor speech, insertion of language in a committee report, or a communication with an executive branch agency requesting an action, or the withholding of an action. But even when there is no connection whatsoever between a donation by a person to a politician and the latter's specific action as a legislator favoring that person, the perception of a payoff, even the possibility of a perception of a payoff, is corrosive to public trust in our Government. We must dispel this growing perception that Congress or parts of Congress are for sale if we are to reverse electoral apathy and restore faith in our Government. Gift bans have not done it. Honoraria bans have not done it. Only deep changes in the campaign finance system will do the job, and it will not be easy. The question is what should be the relationship of the Governmental Affairs Committee investigation to the drive for effective bipartisan campaign finance reform? The resolution before us, S. 39, as amended by the Rules Committee, states that the supplemental funds to be given to the Governmental Affairs Committee for this investigation are for the sole purpose of an investigation into illegal activities in the 1996 Federal election campaign. There are two things wrong with this statement of scope for the investigation. The first thing is that it is a bald-faced attempt by the Republican majority of the Rules Committee to undo a unanimous bipartisan agreement among the members of the Governmental Affairs Committee to have a broad investigation that would examine improper as well as illegal activities along with previous campaigns. Contrary to the claims of the Rules Committee chairman that his language tracks the Watergate resolution, the fact is that the Watergate resolution called for an investigation of improper and unethical activities as well as illegal ones. I am looking at a copy of the Watergate resolution that was passed in the Senate back in 1973. It was submitted by Senator Ervin, Sam Ervin and Mike Mansfield. In part 15 on page 8, it says they are ``to look into any other activities, circumstances, materials or transactions having a tendency to prove or disprove that persons, acting either individually or in combination with others, engaged in any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972, or any campaign, canvas, or activity related to such election.'' That is the language of one of the parts of what the Watergate Committee was to look into--any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972. The narrowing of the scope of the Governmental Affairs investigation by the Rules Committee is nothing more than a blatant pander to those elements in the Republican Party that do not wish to reform the campaign finance system and who are quite willing to scuttle the Governmental Affairs investigation if necessary to avoid creating public pressure to pass a decent bill. How does narrowing the scope to illegal activities avoid this problem for the Republicans? The first thing to understand is that the problem with the campaign finance system is not just what politicians do that is illegal. It is what politicians do that is legal that is [[Page S2059]] an equal scandal, and it happens every single day on Capitol Hill and with both political parties. Let me give you an example. Let us talk about soft money. That is the best example. One of the most pernicious influences in politics these days is soft money. Let me give you an example of that. Let us say Senator X, whoever it might be, solicits $50,000 or $500,000 in soft money from a potential donor to his or her party, ostensibly for party- building purposes, get-out-the-vote drives or the like. But the party can then turn around and use the money on an issue ad during the Senator's reelection campaign that helps him or her and hurts the opponent. According to the Department of Justice, Senator X can even do the solicitation for that $500,000 from his or her office because the solicitation is not for his or her campaign specifically but, rather, for the Senator's party. This practice should be illegal, but it is not. Suppose Senator X wants a direct contribution to his or her campaign from a potential donor, direct to his personal campaign. In that case, Federal election law prohibits the donor from contributing more than $1,000 per person, and it must be in the donor's own name. But that same donor can go out and collect checks of $1,000 for Senator X from everyone he knows, bundle them together, and send them to the Senator's campaign. Let us say Senator X calls from the Senator's office for those donations. If Senator X calls, he is committing an illegal act. But if Senator X calls from outside, it is OK. Suppose Senator X is so grateful, wherever the call came from, for the donor's willingness to help that the next time the donor is in town and wants to talk to Senator X about a legislative matter he has an interest in, Senator X not only lets him into his office but he welcomes him and listens to his pitch. And suppose that Senator X is sufficiently concerned about maintaining the donor's political help that the Senator does what the donor wants on the issue and there was no discussion linking the donation to the donor's request or to the Senator's action. In that case, there has been no bribe. But it is certainly the case that Senator X made his decision on the issue as a result of the donor having had access to the Senator, access that was based at least in part on the donation the Senator was given. Now, suppose Senator X made the original call to the donor from the Senator's office phone instead of from an outside phone. That would be a violation of law. You cannot do that. Let me pose the question. Which is the worst ethical lapse, making the phone call from a legally prohibited place or letting the money influence the Senator's vote? I submit that the answer is not even close. Senator X's constituents and the people generally will have been ill served if he lets money influence his decision, and that overshadows the question of whether the phone he used was a private phone or a Government phone. What is the point of this fictitious example? Well, the resolution before us, which limits the scope of the investigation only to illegal activities, would allow an investigation of whether Senator X committed an illegal act by using a Government phone for the direct solicitation if there was an allegation that he had done so but would allow no investigation of the contribution, and if a soft money contribution was involved, whether Senator X's party had spent that money on certain ads helpful to the Senator's campaign, a legal practice but one that should be illegal. It is not just the independent expenditures by the major parties that is the problem. There are also the independent expenditures by outside private groups including tax-exempt organizations that should be investigated for possible collusion with party organizations. The Washington Post had an article yesterday concerning nonprofits. To quote them: ``Mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end of the 1996 election,'' that were targeted mainly against Democratic candidates. No one apparently knows who supports them. One group, the Coalition for Our Children's Future, spent $700,000 on ads, mailings, phone banks, to help Republican candidates from Louisiana to California. Another group, Citizens for Reform, spent $2 million on ads, including a mailing labeling a Democratic candidate for Congress as sexist and anticonsumer. And this organization is tax exempt. They are not supposed to deal in political matters. In the case of tax-exempt organizations, collusion with a political party would be illegal but would not involve criminal penalties. In the case of a so-called 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, which is prohibited from engaging in political activity, there is the question of whether the placing of certain issue ads should be considered political activity under certain circumstances. Will this be investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee under the funding resolutions' current scope statement? That will depend on how the word ``illegal'' is interpreted. I must say, at several points along the way we have had different interpretations of that word. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the Washington Post article be printed in the Record at the end of my remarks. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. (See exhibit 1.) Mr. GLENN. That is only the beginning of the problems with this resolution. It also requires that if any evidence of illegality is discovered in the 1996 campaign activities of a Member of Congress by a Member of Congress, then such evidence is to be referred to the Ethics Committee. Does that mean the committee's investigation is to be terminated at that point? And, if the evidence comes to the attention of the committee before an investigation has even been initiated, does that mean the committee is to defer to the Ethics Committee for the investigation of the Member? Does referral to the Ethics Committee mean that Governmental Affairs will defer to the Ethics Committee on any possible criminal referral to the Department of Justice? We need answers to all of those things, obviously. What if we are into an investigation and there is something that pops up that looks as though it might be an ethical matter and might be illegal, which this committee would be permitted to deal with? Since there is this special provision with regard to ethics in the Senate, in referring it to the Ethics Committee, do we have to stop any investigation before anything comes out beyond a point where there has been just an allegation of illegality? So, let me return to the question of the meaning of the word ``illegal'' in the resolution. What is the standard to be used by the Governmental Affairs Committee to determine that an activity involves an illegality and is therefore subject to an investigation? Is illegality meant to be equivalent to criminality? Or is it broader and includes activities that are in violation of law but subject to only civil penalties or no penalties at all? The answer to this question will determine whether the activities of tax-exempt organizations engaged in political activity will be investigated. I believe the questions I am raising need to be answered during this debate so Members will know precisely what they are voting on when the time comes. These questions also need to be answered in order to examine whether the 54 subpoenas issued thus far by the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee are within the new scope of the investigation. Let me turn to some other deficiencies in the resolution. These are also deficiencies of omission. My remarks stem once again from my belief that a balanced investigation of fundraising by both parties, highlighting legal transgressions as well as their legal but ethically dubious fundraising activities, could be effective in pointing the way toward real reform. Conversely, an unbalanced, partisan investigation suggesting that the problems lie solely or even mainly with one party would be destructive to forging a consensus and would lead to political games, possibly including an attempt to pass reform legislation crafted not so much to fix the system as to give one party a fundraising advantage over the other. As the ranking Democrat on Governmental Affairs, I have urged the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee to follow standard Senate practices and enter into a written agreement that the investigation will be [[Page S2060]] carried out in a bipartisan manner with an agreed-upon agenda and with fairness. That involves ensuring that both the majority and minority: have contemporaneous access to all documentary evidence received by the committee; have the right to be given adequate advance notice of, to be present at, and to participate equally in all depositions and investigatory interviews; have equal opportunity to obtain and present relevant evidence on the subjects of the committee's inquiry; and, are treated equally and without discrimination in the discharge of the committee's administrative responsibilities. I regret to say that no agreement on these matters has been reached thus far. This has most egregiously shown up in the way subpoenas have been handled thus far. I am hopeful that passage of a funding resolution for the committee's investigation will be the occasion to put this investigation back on a bipartisan track. I believe that failure to do so will redound to the credit of no one and mark the first major stain on this committee's record of bipartisan cooperation during my 22-year tenure on it. Finally, I must comment on that part of the resolution that provides for authorization of some $450,000 in additional funds for the Rules Committee to examine those aspects of campaign fundraising that are outside the scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation under the terms of this resolution as currently written. It is certainly true that the Rules Committee has legislative jurisdiction over campaign finance reform and, therefore, can look into soft money and independent expenditures, among other things, as policy matters. But the Rules Committee is not basically an investigative committee. I could not recall the last time it ever issued a subpoena. We made some inquiry into this and found that no subpoenas have been issued by the committee since at least 1980. We do not know whether any were before that time or not. They may do hearings, but that is not the same as an investigation as conceived under this resolution. Let us not deceive the public about this. Recent press reports clearly indicated that at least two members of the Rules Committee, Republican members of the Rules Committee, would not vote for the funding resolution for the investigation that originally came out of the Governmental Affairs Committee because the scope of the investigation would have included legal as well as illegal congressional fundraising practices. Those Members were concerned that the result of such an investigation might be to raise public pressure on Congress to pass campaign finance reform legislation. The fact is, there is little support for campaign reform among my Republican colleagues. The McCain-Feingold bill has only one other Republican cosponsor, and that is Senator Thompson, to his credit. So we know what game is being played with the Rules Committee rewrite of the previously-agreed-to scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation. It is a game in which legal but improper congressional fundraising is kept off the table while a parade of Presidential fundraisers for the Democratic Party and the Clinton-Gore campaign are brought before the cameras at televised hearings, to give the impression that all the problems are with the Democratic Party and there is no need to change the laws. I do not believe it will work. I do not believe the American people are that naive. I believe they will see through such a strategy were it to unfold. Chairman Thompson has said congressional fundraising should be on the table. I agree with him. That is one of the reasons I was disappointed when none of his first 65 subpoenas were directed toward congressional fundraising. I and my Democratic colleagues will attempt to broaden the scope to include legal activities that are improper, which is where many of the major campaign finance problems are, and which should be thoroughly investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee. So, I hope--in fact I invite Chairman Thompson to join me in cosponsoring an amendment I plan to offer to broaden the scope, and I invite him to join me in voting against tabling any such amendment. I also invite all Members of the Senate, Democratic and Republican, who truly want to change our system to join us. Let us look at it from your children's perspective of 20 years from now. Whichever party is in the majority--and that may have changed in that time, maybe before that--but look at your children as adults out there, taking part in the political system at that time. Whichever party is in the majority at that time, I am sure we can all hope that political fundraising will not be the mess that it is today. One way to gain that end is to assure that investigations are carried out now without fear or favor and spotlighting the dark corners, whether illegal or legal, but in either event, wrong, improper, and unethical. The resolution before us does not take us in that direction, and that is why I also urge Senator Thompson, even if we fail to pass such an amendment, to seek every opportunity at our committee level to examine and thoroughly investigate any alleged illegal fundraising activities by Members of Congress, in the House or Senate. That will at least be a start, and I pledge my full support to such efforts. So I await with interest his proposed agenda and subpoenas in this area. At the appropriate time today, before we finish this debate, I will have an amendment to submit. I would like to lay it down this evening. I doubt all the people on either side of the aisle who wish to speak on the amendment will return before we go out of session, but I would like to have time later on to submit the amendment before we go out of session this evening. I yield the floor. Exhibit 1 [From the Washington Post, Mar. 9, 1997] For Their Targets, Mystery Groups' Ads Hit Like Attacks From Nowhere (By Charles R. Babcock and Ruth Marcus) Campaign watchdog groups and government regulators are concerned about the emergence of mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end the 1996 election and could play an even larger role in coming campaigns. The groups, with bland names such as Citizens for Reform and the Republic Education Fund, spent millions of dollars on television advertising, mailings and telephone banks in the closing weeks of the campaign, mostly on the side of the Republicans. None of their activities was reported to the Federal Election Commission (FEC). ``The public has no idea who these people are or where they're coming from or who funds them,'' said Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, which monitors political ethics. ``They are trying to influence the political process and the public is in the dark.'' For example, a group called the Coalition for Our Children's Future spent more than $700,000 on television and radio ads, mailings, and telephone banks to bolster GOP candidates in key races from Louisiana to California. The last-minute onslaught, financed in part by a donor who demanded a written confidentiality agreement, was conducted without the knowledge or approval of the group's directors. Two of the directors resigned in protest after The Washington Post informed them of the late ads, saying they never approved the expenditures. They said they still do not know exactly what was done or the source of funding. Former director Deborah Steelman, a GOP lobbyist, said she thought the group had been inactive since spending more than $4 million on advertising backing the GOP's legislative agenda in 1995. ``Clearly, the organization created another mission of which we were not a part,'' she said. Like the more identifiable AFL-CIO and environmental groups that also ran advertising, leaders of organizations such as the coalition say their television commercials were not political because they did not explicitly endorse a candidate. Since they were engaging in ``issue advocacy,'' they said, they were not required to report to the FEC the source of their funds or how much they spent. One group created last spring and calling itself Citizens for Reform spent $2 million in the closing days, according to its president, conservative activist Peter Flaherty. In California, it sent mailings into the district of Democratic Rep. George Brown accusing him of being sexist and anti- consumer. The Consumer Federation of America, cited as the source in one flier although it endorsed Brown, denounced the mailing as ``extremely misleading and grossly unfair.'' In Montana, the group bought television time calling Democratic congressional candidate Bill Yellowtail a convicted criminal who ``preaches family values . . . but took a swing at his wife.'' Another new group called Citizens for the Republic Educaiton Fund obtained at least $1 million in late ads, according to director Lyn Nofziger, longtime political aide to Ronald Reagan. In Texas, it bought television ads against Democratic congressional candidate Nick Lampson that said he had been [[Page S2061]] accused of Medicare fraud. In Erie, Pa., another television ad denounced ``big labor bosses'' for trying to buy ``a Congress they can control.'' Some ads were so inflammatory that the Republican candidates they were designed to help denounced them. And some stations would not run some ads or pulled them off the air after complaints by Democratic candidates. Leaders of the groups targeting Democrats say they operated independently and they and GOP officials said the groups were not fronts for the party. Nofziger called it, ``outrageous'' that advocacy groups like his are allowed to ``go and run political ads and call them education.'' He added, ``We wouldn't have had to do it if it had not been for labor'' and its attacks on GOP candidates. The Flaherty and Nofziger groups were run by a Washington- based firm, Triad Management, that advertises itself as sort of an underground version of the Republican Party. A Triad marketing video includes testimonials from Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.) and several House members aimed at recruiting donors for what the video labels a ``privatized Republican national coalition.'' Triad's Carolyn Malenick, a former fund-raiser for Oliver L. North, says on the video that labor has always been the ``rapid fire'' of the Democratic Party. ``If the Republican Party needs that quote `rapid fire' where're we going to find it?'' she said. ``If we need to move or have $100,000 put into a congressional race tomorrow where're we going to find it?'' Malenick declined to be interviewed. Mark Braden, Triad's attorney, said the group was not a front for the GOP or a particular special interest, like the tobacco industry. Malenick's donors are mostly individuals from ``ideologically driven networks,'' he said. While most of the late negative issue ads with mysterious sponsors targeted Democratic races, a labor-funded group, the '96 Project, paid for voter guides mailed in the name of other groups in 14 races. The project paid $50,000 for mailings in six House districts where the fliers said they were ``sponsored'' by local or state affiliates of the National Council of Senior Citizens, a group made up predominantly of retired union members. There was no mention of the '96 Project in the mailings. Scott Wolf, director of the project, said there was no intent to deceive the public on who was behind the mailings, which made GOP candidates look unfavorable on key issues. His group also paid for mailings in eight races ``sponsored'' by the Interfaith Alliance, a group of ministers formed as an alternative to the Christian Coalition, according to the alliance's Greg Lebel. Lebel said ``it never occurred to us'' voters might be misled because the eight mailings said only that the '96 Project ``prepared'' the voter guides. Most of the late money from obscure groups was spent on television. And Federal Communications Commission officials who monitor political advertising say their authority over broadcasters is limited. Charles Kelley, chief of enforcement for the FCC's mass media bureau, said the agency wants to know ``who is the attempted persuader'' in such ads. The question, he said, is ``what legal authority we have, if any, to obligate the true sponsor to step forward.'' The FCC managed to do that in a case in Oregon last fall, when it discovered that a group calling itself Fairness Matters to Oregonians was being financed by the Tobacco Institute. The FCC ruled the group's ads, which opposed an increase in the state cigarette tax, could be aired but the tobacco Institute had to be identified as the sponsor. Various campaign reform proposals in Congress attempt to address the late attacks by saying the name or image of candidates cannot be mentioned in ads in the last 60 days before the general election. But many lawmakers and interest groups say such proposals would put unconstitutional limits on their First Amendment rights. Flaherty, who also heads the Conservative Campaign Fund PAC, said concerns about sponsorship are misplaced. ``Most people when they see an ad don't focus on who put it on, but focus on the message,'' he said. ``If the message has strength and credibility it will persuade people. If it doesn't, it won't.'' In applying for tax-exempt status, which allowed it to avoid paying taxes on investment income, Citizens for Reform told the IRS it had no plans to spend money ``attempting to influence'' elections. But asked whether the groups' advertising had been effective, Flaherty said, ``I think we made a big difference. It was an absolute onslaught in some of these areas by labor and liberal groups and I think we helped stanch the bleeding artery.'' Perhaps the most peculiar of the late ad campaigns was the one run in the name of the Coalition for our Children's Future, which spent money in six House districts, the Louisiana Senate race and 12 Minnesota legislative races, according to Executive Director Barry Bennett. Two directors, Dirk Van Dongen, president of the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors, and Donald L. Fierce, a GOP consultant and former Republican National Committee aide, resigned in protest; two others, Steelman and Gary Andres, had left the board earlier. How the unauthorized advertising campaign was launched and how races were targeted remains murky. Bennett, working in Ohio at the time of the election as chief of staff to then- Rep. Frank A. Cremeans (R), at first said he did not know of any extensive late advertising. Then he acknowledged he had signed the secrecy agreement with the donor and signed blank checks to pay a Houston political consultant who ran the advertising campaign. Bennett said he did so without telling board members. Bennett and the group's fund-raising consultant, John Simms, said the consultant, Denis Calabrese, approached them last summer and helped connect them with some donors, who they declined to identify. Calabrese, who has worked on industry's side to make it harder to win large damage awards in lawsuits, did not return numerous phone calls. Bennett said he had tried without success, after the Post inquiries, to obtain copies of the television scripts from Simms' firm. He said he had no idea what the coalition, organized to address federal issues, was doing in Minnesota statehouse races. ``Am I embarrassed by this?'' Bennett said before he stopped returning phone calls. ``Yes . . . I understand we've created a huge mystery here and that's our fault.'' Mr. WARNER addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Allard). The Senator from Virginia. Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, there are others anxious to speak to this. I see Senator Hatch is here, and I want to, just in reply to my distinguished friend and colleague, say a few words here, and then Senator Hatch, hopefully, will take the floor momentarily. First, I want to make it very clear, I am not going to personalize this debate in any way or use the word ``pandering.'' Nobody is pandering anybody around here. What we are trying to do is how to get as quickly as possible to the point where the U.S. Senate, in several committees, can start looking into this very important issue, hopefully in a fair and objective manner, for the best interests of this institution and our country. I have been in politics--I am almost hesitant to mention how many years--but it is a good 40-plus, and I have never in my lifetime ever seen a situation engulfing this great Nation, casting more doubt in the minds of the voters with regard to how we, those who serve in the Congress and those who serve in the executive branch as the President and Vice President, go about the process of elections, and we have to get at the bottom of this thing as quickly as possible. I have indicated my support for Chairman Fred Thompson as a man I have absolute faith in, who can deal with this matter fairly and objectively, and I have said that for weeks. Never once have I deviated, and I do not think there will ever be a basis that I shall deviate. I said from the beginning that I want to support him as an individual. I want to support the work of his committee. But there is a very careful delineation of responsibilities here among the several committees, and there is clearly, within the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, which I am privileged to chair, the right to superimpose our own judgment on the scope and activities of the other committees of the Senate as it relates to those funds under our jurisdiction. This is in no way any bald-faced effort by myself or other members of the Rules Committee, particularly the distinguished majority leader, who was just on the floor consulting with me minutes ago, no way to try to do other than what I have just said, which is to get the Senate on the track as quickly as possible. We just have to get beyond all of this procedure business and get on with the business. I said that I drew this scope language, drawing from the Watergate. I never said I used it. I have read it now probably 25 times and studied the history of it. I know all the words that are in it. It is interesting. In the Watergate resolution, I ask my friend, if he wants to debate it later on, whether or not you find any authority in there to investigate the Congress. I do not find it in the Watergate resolution, but it is very clearly expressed in this resolution as adopted by the Rules Committee. We in no way tried to obfuscate that issue. This volume is the ``Authority and Rules of Senate Committees'' for the last fiscal year, but it is applicable to this. I would like to just read the question of jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, and it is found on page 155 of that book. It states we have the authority to investigate ``corrupt practices.'' Now that is about as broad as any charter can be--as broad as any charter can be. Then go to section 5: [[Page S2062]] Federal elections generally, including the election of the President, Vice President, and Members of the Congress. There it is. That is the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee. Now go over to the jurisdiction of the Governmental Affairs Committee--and I urge my colleague from Ohio to take a moment or two to look through this book so that he can reply--found on page 101, and in detail on page 102, where it says, the committee is duly authorized, or a subcommittee thereof is authorized to study and investigate. You do not find--at least I haven't thus far in studying it--that precise language as it relates to the Rules Committee concerning jurisdiction over precisely what it is that the U.S. Senate must investigate. If anything, this volume gives clearly the authority to the Rules Committee, and I find less specificity as it relates to the Governmental Affairs Committee. Lastly, as to campaign finance reform, the generic subject, the Rules Committee held a number of hearings last year. We already commenced our series of hearings this year. The distinguished majority leader designated the majority whip, Mr. Nickles, and a group of us, including the Senator from Virginia speaking, and it is our responsibility to try to come up with a grouping of proposals which we have reason to believe will effect the greatest possible reform in this generic subject of campaign finance reform. You bet there are areas which I would like to see changed. In my last campaign, I experienced spending by my opponent--and I do not castigate him in any way at this point in time, nor did I ever--but clearly he had the authority under the Supreme Court decision to spend all the money of his personal funds he wished. He set a record in the history of the U.S. Senate races from the first day this body was constituted through and including today for the greatest amount of money spent for a State per capita in the United States. I think we should enact some legislation that would curtail, in some manner, the limit of an individual to expend millions and millions and millions of dollars. In the case of my race, it is presumably in excess, it was reported, $10 million out of personal spending. Maybe subsequent records will show an additional amount, but that is not here to argue. The point being, the only way that can be done is by a constitutional amendment. I would not want to see this body rest its entire package of reforms that a constitutional amendment is going to be adopted in this area of campaign finance reform. My own personal opinion, it is highly unlikely that such an amendment, even though I would favor certain types of constitutional amendments on campaign reform, that that can be achieved; essentially, the first amendment, which, again, would require a constitutional amendment. There are many areas of campaign finance reform that would be solely predicated on the ability to get a constitutional amendment in order to achieve those goals. I would not want to see this body pass a package of campaign finance reform proposals knowing full well in our hearts that the Federal court is going to strike down in large measure a number of those provisions. So I look forward to continuing to work with the distinguished majority leader and the majority whip in seeing what we can come up with in a package of campaign finance reform proposals which can be adopted by this body and, Mr. President, can withstand the essential scrutiny that will come about by the third branch of Government, namely, the Federal court system. Mr. President, I now yield the floor. Mr. HATCH addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah. Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, it befalls me to make a few comments here today concerning why this investigation is so important. Before I do, I want to compliment the Rules Committee and the people on the Rules Committee who have handled this very difficult subject matter and have done it in a credible and responsible way. I also personally believe that no two people could handle this matter better than the chairman and ranking member of the Governmental Affairs Committee. Senator Thompson has had extensive experience in these matters and Senator Glenn is known as an eminently fair and worthy person here in this body. I have total confidence in both of them that they will be fair, they will be thorough, they will be tough, and they will do what is right. We simply have to get to the bottom of this. The American people are concerned about it. Certainly the media has written extensively about these matters. It is incumbent upon the Senate in its oversight capacity to investigate these matters fairly and thoroughly. As we take up Senate Resolution 39 today, I would like to just take a few minutes to emphasize one major point: That there is a serious number of very, very troubling matters to investigate, simply at the very core of Senators Thompson's and Glenn's inquiry. Merely in recent press reports--if that is all you had--there are very substantial and troubling questions that must be answered regarding whether foreign money and foreign influence has infiltrated the American political process. While numerous other allegations of improper fundraising at the White House and by the White House have surfaced in the media in the past week or so, that is not what I want to talk about today. Even putting aside all of those allegations, the fact is that we have before us very serious allegations that China funneled funds into American elections in an attempt to influence American policy and policymakers. The gravity of these allegations should not and must not be underestimated. Were our national interests sold out? I hope they were not. But this matter must be pursued, and it must be done in a thorough, fair, and honest manner. Later this week the Judiciary Committee will forward a letter to the Attorney General requesting that she apply for an independent counsel. To date, she has refused to do so in this matter. I do not read anything sinister into that--I believe that the Attorney General is an honorable, ethical person of integrity. She has applied for the appointment of no less than four independent counsels since she has been Attorney General. I think she has shown that she is a person who can act. But to date she has refused to act on this matter. Accordingly, Congress must be all the more vigilant. And given the apparent conflict of interest, the public will be relying on Congress to ascertain the facts and get to the bottom of this whole affair. The Governmental Affairs Committee inquiry into fundraising improprieties is, in my opinion, one of the most important congressional investigations in history and involves some of the most serious allegations we have seen to date about our electoral system and our Government. The press and congressional committees have uncovered material facts that prompt numerous questions: First, did a foreign government try to influence our national elections and our domestic and/or foreign policy? No. 2, were millions of dollars of foreign money laundered through various groups to the Democratic National Committee, particularly by three individuals--Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, and John Huang, all of whom have some ties to China. No. 3, were there violations of any of our existing laws, such as the Hatch Act, the Ethics in Government Act, and our current Federal elections laws? The breadth of this particular investigation is immense. We cannot allow ourselves, in an attempt to satisfy the tendentious cause for a broad inquiry into congressional campaigns, to interfere with what is a serious matter. Investigating the 1996 Presidential campaign alone will require a very substantial budget and a substantial amount of time--I presume even more time than the Rules Committee has allowed in this instance, which is only until the end of this year or approximately 8 months. I suspect this will go on beyond that and will have to go on beyond that because of what will be brought out. Let us focus for a moment, however, in terms of the breadth of this investigation, on one individual--Mr. John Huang. He was born in China. He worked for the Lippo Group, a huge conglomerate based in Indonesia with large business interests in China. Lippo is owned and controlled by the Riady family-- Mochtar, James, and Stephen. These are also Chinese natives. [[Page S2063]] By 1994, Huang was the top Lippo executive in the United States. Huang was appointed Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Economic Policy in our Department of Commerce in September 1994. Let me just go down through what John Huang did while employed at Commerce--just a quick glance. He was, according to reports, given a top security clearance without the usual background check, which is all but unheard of; 78-plus visits to the White House; 70-plus calls to Lippo during this period of time; 39 classified top secret briefings dwelling on China and other countries in Asia; 30-plus phone conversations with Mark Middleton or associates; 9 phone messages from or calls to Webster Hubbell; 9 phone messages from the Chinese Embassy officials; 5 months of top secret clearance before joining the Commerce Department. In other words, even before he got in this very important position in Government, he had 5 months of top secret clearance. Why? That is a question that is going to be a big question in this matter. Huang enjoyed a top secret clearance for 5 months of top secret clearance before joining Commerce and nearly a year after leaving Commerce to join the Democratic National Committee. Why? Why would those security clearances go with him outside of Government? Why would he be permitted this kind of access to very sensitive information? These are questions that are very important. Taken with the $780,000 severance pay Huang received from Lippo prior to joining the Commerce Department, these facts naturally raise questions. This next chart involves a meeting at the White House to discuss the Huang transfer from the White House to the Democratic National Committee on September 13, 1995. It was an Oval Office meeting. The President was there. James Riady, the Lippo executive was there. Bruce Lindsey, the Deputy White House Counsel, was there. Joseph Giroir, who is, I believe, the former top partner in the Rose Law Firm, the Lippo joint venture partner/adviser, former Rose Law Firm partner, and, if I recall correctly, was the managing partner of that firm, and none other than John Huang, former Lippo executive, Principal Deputy Assistant, Secretary of Commerce. At this meeting, it was decided that John Huang would move from the Commerce Department to the Democratic National Committee as vice chairman of finance. We do not know what happened at this meeting, although some extremely troubling explanations have been reported by the media. Each one of these people, it seems to me, with the possible exception of the President, will have to be questioned regarding just what went on at that meeting, why Huang left Commerce, and why he was immediately transferred to the Democratic National Committee as the finance vice chairman, why James Riady, was even at this meeting. That is a very important meeting. Let me put another chart up here. This is John Huang at the Democratic National Committee. These are examples of illegal funds raised by Huang. The Wiriadinatas raised $450,000, all of which was returned by the DNC. Pauline Kanchanalak, $250,000. She has since left the country. She is now in Thailand. All funds returned by the DNC. Wogesh Gandhi, $250,000. He testified he had no assets. All funds returned by the DNC, the Democratic National Committee. Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--$250,000. Like Kanchanalak and others, Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--has disappeared. All of these funds were returned by the Democratic National Committee. Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple, $166,750: This comes from a temple where the residents take a vow of poverty; $74,000 of the $166,750 was returned by the DNC. All together, that we know of, John Huang raised $3.4 million, $1.6 million of which has been returned by the Democratic National Committee. These are just a few of some of the problems that I think the Governmental Affairs Committee is going to have to go into. I do not see how they can avoid doing it. To give a picture of some of the people who seem to be involved in this, let me just highlight some of the other individuals involved in this affair. We start with John Huang, former top Lippo executive in the United States, who had a $780,000 severance package when he went to Congress. He had multiple contacts while there with Lippo. The former Democratic National Committee vice chairman raised more than $3.4 million, $1.6 million was returned, and he visited the White House during this period more than 75 times. C.J. Giroir, in the Lippo joint ventures, former Rose Law Firm attorney, met with James Riady, President Clinton, and Lindsey on the Huang move to DNC, and donated $25,000 to the DNC. Mark Middleton, former White House aide from Little Rock, met with James Riady and President Clinton on that occasion, Far East business interests, had unlimited access to the White House after his departure. Charles Trie, Little Rock restauranteur, received a $60,000 loan from Lippo, and he arranged with the former Lippo executive Antonio Pan to get a Hong Kong dinner for Ron Brown. Trie also attempted to give $600,000 to the Clinton legal trust fund, and he visited the White House at least 37 times. Mark Grobmyer, Little Rock attorney, close friend of President Clinton, consultant to Lippo, Far East business interests, met with James Riady, Huang and President Clinton. Soraya Wiriadinata, daughter of Hashin Ning, former Lippo executive, contributed $450,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned, according to the committee. Soraya has gone back to Indonesia. S. Wang Jun, Lippo joint ventures, Chinese arms merchant, senior executive at CITIC and COSTIND, Chinese Government entities, and attended a White House conference. Webster Hubbell, former Associate Attorney General, received a $250,000 consulting fee from Lippo--would not say why he got that. Charles DeQueljoe is the president of Lippo Securities in Jakarta, gave $70,000 to the Democratic National Committee and was appointed to the USTR office. Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai lobbyist who worked with Huang when he was at Lippo, contributed $253,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned. She had frequent contacts with Huang. She visited the White House at least 26 times. And then we come back to John Huang himself. Now, all of these people are going to have to be interviewed. We are going to have to find out what the facts are here. What was going on? Were there illegalities? In that regard, these are key players who have taken the fifth amendment: John Huang, Charlie Trie, Pauline Kanchanalak, Mark Middleton, and Webster Hubbell. I do not see how anybody on the other side of the floor can argue that this set of hearings should not go on, or that this would not take almost every second of any committee's time, and I am only talking about one aspect of it. There are many other aspects to this. The key players who have left the country--and we have not been given reasons why they left the country--are John H.K. Lee--gone. If he is going to be interviewed, it is overseas. Charlie Trie, gone, after taking the fifth. Pauline Kanchanalak, gone--as far as I know, back in Thailand, after having taken the fifth amendment. Arief and Soraya Wiriadinata, gone. Charles DeQueljoe, gone. And James and Mochtar Riady, gone. They left the country. All this is a brief discussion of one aspect of this. There are other aspects of this, but this is a brief glimpse into some of the serious allegations the Government Oversight Committee will have to look into. I emphasize the point with which I opened, just that at the core of this investigation is a vast series of matters which must be looked into. This will be one of the most important congressional investigations in history. I hope it is not obstructed by partisan tactics and politics. I hope with all my heart it is not. I think the American people expect as much. When I found out over the weekend that the FBI--and I did not know this before--had notified seven Members of Congress that they might be receiving laundered funds from a foreign country, mainly China, I was kind of shocked at that, because if they informed those seven Members of Congress, surely the FBI informed the White House. I have been led to believe by the FBI they informed the National Security Council. That being the case, [[Page S2064]] why are all these people having such access to our White House under those circumstances? As chairman of the Judiciary Committee, as chairman of the committee that oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, naturally, I have to be concerned about it. Now, in addition to all of this, there are newer revelations coming out every day. I challenge the Government Affairs Committee to substantiate these allegations, to look into them. Let me just list some of the new revelations about the campaign finance scandals that were first reported after the Governmental Affairs Committee made a request of $6.5 million to investigate the scandal. First, Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes made a telephone call from Air Force One to warn of the wiring of the money to the Democratic National Committee and additional funds to nonprofit organizations. There is some indication they used Air Force One for the purpose of raising funds. I hope that is not the case. Second, questions have been raised concerning whether the White House database was created for official--as opposed to political--purposes, since it contained individuals' Social Security numbers, nicknames, relations to the First Family, pet political issues, and sometimes a photograph. Third, China may have sought to influence U.S. policy through the direction of foreign campaign contributions to the Democratic National Committee and actions taken at the Chinese embassy. It has been disclosed that Huang had contacts with the embassy while he worked at Commerce. Fourth, the NSC, National Security Council, at the White House provided the White House with warnings about Johnny Chung, who has ties to the Chinese Government, who was nonetheless subsequently granted access to the White House on numerous occasions, even though they knew about those ties. Fifth, Huang approached two business associates and offered to pay them $45,000 if they would take $250,000 from him and donate it in their own names to the Democratic National Committee. That is illegal. Sixth, the White House fired four staff members whose salaries were being paid by the Democratic National Committee while they were working at the White House. I don't know whether that has ever been done before, but it should not be done. There are other allegations, but

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Text of this article available as: TXT PDF [Pages S2057-S2078] AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will now proceed to the consideration of Senate Resolution 39, which the clerk will report. The bill clerk read as follows: A resolution (S. Res. 39) authorizing expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs. The Senate proceeded to consider the bill, which had been reported from the Committee on Rules and Administration, with an amendment to strike all after the resolving clause and insert the following: That (a) Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``Authorization of Additional Funds ``Sec. 24. (a) In General.--A sum equal to not more than $4,350,000, for the period beginning on the date of adoption of this section and ending on December 31, 1997, shall be made available from the contingent fund of the Senate out of the Account for Expenses for Inquiries and Investigations for payment of salaries and other expenses of the Committee on Governmental Affairs under this resolution, of which amount not to exceed $375,000 may be expended for the procurement of the services of individual consultants, or organizations thereof (as authorized by section 202(i) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946, as amended). The expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs authorized by this section supplement those authorized in section 13 and may be expended solely for the purpose stated in this section. ``(b) Purpose of Additional Funds.--The additional funds authorized by this section are for the sole purpose of conducting an investigation of illegal activities in connection with 1996 Federal election campaigns. ``(c) Referral To Select Committee on Ethics.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall refer any evidence of illegal activities involving any Member of the Senate revealed pursuant to the investigation authorized by subsection (b) to the Select Committee on Ethics. ``(d) Final Report.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall submit a final public report to the Senate no later than January 31, 1998, of the results of the investigation, study, and hearings conducted by the Committee pursuant to this section.''. (b) Section 16(b) of Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by-- (1) striking ``$1,339,109'' and inserting $1,789,109''; and (2) striking ``$200,000'' and inserting $300,000''. (c) The Committee on Rules and Administration shall continue to conduct hearings on campaign reform. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, on Thursday of last week, the Rules Committee reported out an amendment to Senate Resolution 39, and it is my understanding that the present business is that pending amendment, which does amend, if decided by the Senate, rule 39. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, I thank the Chair. We will now proceed to discuss the amendment as passed by the Rules Committee on Thursday of last week, the 6th of March. Madam President, the responsibility of the Rules Committee is to entertain, from all committees of the U.S. Senate, their requests for funding. We have, in Senate Resolution 54, which has been adopted by the Senate, the budgets for all of the committees of the Senate for their fiscal year, which runs from March 1 through February 28. The Committee on Governmental Affairs, in Senate Resolution 39, submitted their request for funding. In the initial consideration of Senate Resolution 39 by the Rules Committee, the committee determined that they would grant a portion of the funding request, and that is reflected in Senate Resolution 54. The Governmental Affairs Committee still had, under Senate Resolution 39, the balance of their request, which was considered on the 6th of March by the Rules Committee. After a full debate--and certainly in the judgment of the chairman, myself, and actively participated in by Senators on both sides, as we had nearly 100 percent attendance at the committee hearing on both sides--the committee voted to provide $4.35 million for the Committee on Governmental affairs as a supplemental to the request as reported in Senate Resolution 54. Now, how did we arrive at that figure? You can look at the request of the distinguished Senator from Ohio--indeed, a request that, by and large, was supported by most on that side of the aisle--that there be a definitive date for cutoff, and that date by the senior Senator from Ohio was December 31 of this calendar year, 1997. If I took that and viewed it as a reduced period of time; namely, that the Governmental Affairs Committee could begin its work using the supplemental funds, March 15, from a practical standpoint, through December 31, 1997, it would appear to this Senator that we would have, by and large, given that committee the funding profile in dollars in proportion to the timing from which those funds may be expended. The next question was the scope. I worked with other colleagues, primarily those on the Rules Committee, and I devised a formula, in consultation with the distinguished majority leader and others, whereby looking at the original Watergate resolution, we took from that the concept that we would allow the Governmental Affairs Committee to expend the supplemental budget for such investigations that they felt were illegal in connection with the 1996 Presidential election and congressional elections--not delineating between the House and Senate, but simply all Federal elections in calendar year 1996. So it seems to me that the Rules Committee, in a fair manner, recognized the dollars that we needed, gave the Governmental Affairs Committee a scope of the investigation and illegal--illegal is a very broad scope. It goes beyond. And I will at a later time today put into the Record the definitions of illegal. But it goes beyond just criminal assertions of allegations of criminal violations. It goes beyond that. So it is a broad scope. Then the Rules Committee took from the proposal, which the senior Senator from Ohio will address momentarily, a termination date of December 31, 1997. In addition to the Rules Committee, I think very importantly recognizing the essential need for the Senate of the United States to actively participate in determining what happened, certainly in 1996 in connection with the ever-increasing number of allegations--most [[Page S2058]] of them regrettably could border on or do, in fact, constitute illegal--it was essential that the other committees of the Senate take on their responsibilities, which is traditional under the allocation in the Senate of the responsibilities among the several committees. Therefore, we charged the Rules Committee, of which I am privileged to be the chairman, the duty to continue its hearings on campaign finance reform, gave it a sum of $450,000 to be used by that committee in enlarging and broadening the scope of their operations in the overall context of campaign reform and campaign financing. So the Rules Committee will take on an added role. In addition, if there is that development by the Governmental Affairs Committee or the Rules Committee of facts which should be examined by the Ethics Committee of the U.S. Senate as those facts relate to a Member of this body, it will be incumbent upon the Ethics Committee to review any allegations we feel merit the judgment of that committee as it relates to an individual in the U.S. Senate. So, Madam President, I feel that the Rules Committee unanimously, regrettably--bipartisan, yet unanimous among the Republicans--has addressed this tough issue, and we are here today for the purpose of amending Senate Resolution 39 such that they can have the additional funds and under a very carefully crafted and proscribed scope of activities within a time limit of December 31, 1997. Madam President, I yield the floor so that my distinguished colleague from Ohio can present his views. Mr. GLENN addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Ohio. Mr. GLENN. Madam President, we are now into the second week in March. The Senate has been operating for approximately 2 months. I don't know that we have had much in the way of accomplishment during that time period. Certainly, there are national problems that should be addressed. For example, we ought to be working on balancing the budget instead of just trying to pass amendments, which we tried to do, and it failed. We also have a series of problems with our health care system. Managed care may be saving money, but there is increasing evidence that it is happening at the expense of lower quality of health care. So, for uninsured Americans, that continues to be a major problem. As far as health care goes, we are going to have a debate, I guess, about partial-birth abortion. In other areas, the stock market has gone through the roof. Unemployment is at a 25-year low. But there is concern about the future, and about Social Security and Medicare. But there are no serious proposals by the Republican majority to deal with these issues. Well, today we have an opportunity. We have an opportunity to have the possibility of beginning a serious discussion about a serious issue: the campaign finance system used by both political parties in the United States. The American people are disgusted by what they see in campaign finance. And they should be. Along with the steady drumbeat of antigovernment ideologues, it is a major factor in America's loss of faith in our institutions of government. It is that serious. All you have to do is look at the polling data and such things as decreased participation in voting. If this trend continues, if America goes downhill because of the lack of confidence in our Federal Government, I say that we face a crisis that could literally threaten the foundation of democracy in the United States. There is a remedy to avert this crisis, as I see it, and to begin the restoration of public support for this system of government. The remedy requires that we reform the campaign finance system. It is a wonderful place to start because it certainly needs reforming. Will this get a serious examination by Congress, or will we get sidetracked by a partisan political circus? The jury is definitely out on that at this time. We have before us a resolution to fund a Senate investigation which, if the scope were made broader than it currently is, has enormous potential as a tool to stimulate public pressure on Congress to enact meaningful campaign finance reform, honest campaign finance reform. Recent revelations about fundraising involving 1996 Federal races are disturbing. They involve both parties in both congressional and Presidential campaigns. The truth is that the current fundraising system, both Presidential and congressional, is scandalous. Having said that, in my opinion, most Members of Congress are honest elected officials, both over in the House and here in the Senate. They are honest elected officials trying to do a good job, albeit from different political philosophies. But that is our system. But the general public perception that money gets its way in determining policy is, indeed, true for too many. There is a public perception that access follows money, and anybody who has been around Capitol Hill very long knows that sometimes it does. Access can alter the balance of arguments weighed by a Member and his or her staff when deciding a course of action, be it a vote on the floor or in committee, a colloquy on the Senate floor, introduction or cosponsorship of a piece of legislation, floor speech, insertion of language in a committee report, or a communication with an executive branch agency requesting an action, or the withholding of an action. But even when there is no connection whatsoever between a donation by a person to a politician and the latter's specific action as a legislator favoring that person, the perception of a payoff, even the possibility of a perception of a payoff, is corrosive to public trust in our Government. We must dispel this growing perception that Congress or parts of Congress are for sale if we are to reverse electoral apathy and restore faith in our Government. Gift bans have not done it. Honoraria bans have not done it. Only deep changes in the campaign finance system will do the job, and it will not be easy. The question is what should be the relationship of the Governmental Affairs Committee investigation to the drive for effective bipartisan campaign finance reform? The resolution before us, S. 39, as amended by the Rules Committee, states that the supplemental funds to be given to the Governmental Affairs Committee for this investigation are for the sole purpose of an investigation into illegal activities in the 1996 Federal election campaign. There are two things wrong with this statement of scope for the investigation. The first thing is that it is a bald-faced attempt by the Republican majority of the Rules Committee to undo a unanimous bipartisan agreement among the members of the Governmental Affairs Committee to have a broad investigation that would examine improper as well as illegal activities along with previous campaigns. Contrary to the claims of the Rules Committee chairman that his language tracks the Watergate resolution, the fact is that the Watergate resolution called for an investigation of improper and unethical activities as well as illegal ones. I am looking at a copy of the Watergate resolution that was passed in the Senate back in 1973. It was submitted by Senator Ervin, Sam Ervin and Mike Mansfield. In part 15 on page 8, it says they are ``to look into any other activities, circumstances, materials or transactions having a tendency to prove or disprove that persons, acting either individually or in combination with others, engaged in any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972, or any campaign, canvas, or activity related to such election.'' That is the language of one of the parts of what the Watergate Committee was to look into--any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972. The narrowing of the scope of the Governmental Affairs investigation by the Rules Committee is nothing more than a blatant pander to those elements in the Republican Party that do not wish to reform the campaign finance system and who are quite willing to scuttle the Governmental Affairs investigation if necessary to avoid creating public pressure to pass a decent bill. How does narrowing the scope to illegal activities avoid this problem for the Republicans? The first thing to understand is that the problem with the campaign finance system is not just what politicians do that is illegal. It is what politicians do that is legal that is [[Page S2059]] an equal scandal, and it happens every single day on Capitol Hill and with both political parties. Let me give you an example. Let us talk about soft money. That is the best example. One of the most pernicious influences in politics these days is soft money. Let me give you an example of that. Let us say Senator X, whoever it might be, solicits $50,000 or $500,000 in soft money from a potential donor to his or her party, ostensibly for party- building purposes, get-out-the-vote drives or the like. But the party can then turn around and use the money on an issue ad during the Senator's reelection campaign that helps him or her and hurts the opponent. According to the Department of Justice, Senator X can even do the solicitation for that $500,000 from his or her office because the solicitation is not for his or her campaign specifically but, rather, for the Senator's party. This practice should be illegal, but it is not. Suppose Senator X wants a direct contribution to his or her campaign from a potential donor, direct to his personal campaign. In that case, Federal election law prohibits the donor from contributing more than $1,000 per person, and it must be in the donor's own name. But that same donor can go out and collect checks of $1,000 for Senator X from everyone he knows, bundle them together, and send them to the Senator's campaign. Let us say Senator X calls from the Senator's office for those donations. If Senator X calls, he is committing an illegal act. But if Senator X calls from outside, it is OK. Suppose Senator X is so grateful, wherever the call came from, for the donor's willingness to help that the next time the donor is in town and wants to talk to Senator X about a legislative matter he has an interest in, Senator X not only lets him into his office but he welcomes him and listens to his pitch. And suppose that Senator X is sufficiently concerned about maintaining the donor's political help that the Senator does what the donor wants on the issue and there was no discussion linking the donation to the donor's request or to the Senator's action. In that case, there has been no bribe. But it is certainly the case that Senator X made his decision on the issue as a result of the donor having had access to the Senator, access that was based at least in part on the donation the Senator was given. Now, suppose Senator X made the original call to the donor from the Senator's office phone instead of from an outside phone. That would be a violation of law. You cannot do that. Let me pose the question. Which is the worst ethical lapse, making the phone call from a legally prohibited place or letting the money influence the Senator's vote? I submit that the answer is not even close. Senator X's constituents and the people generally will have been ill served if he lets money influence his decision, and that overshadows the question of whether the phone he used was a private phone or a Government phone. What is the point of this fictitious example? Well, the resolution before us, which limits the scope of the investigation only to illegal activities, would allow an investigation of whether Senator X committed an illegal act by using a Government phone for the direct solicitation if there was an allegation that he had done so but would allow no investigation of the contribution, and if a soft money contribution was involved, whether Senator X's party had spent that money on certain ads helpful to the Senator's campaign, a legal practice but one that should be illegal. It is not just the independent expenditures by the major parties that is the problem. There are also the independent expenditures by outside private groups including tax-exempt organizations that should be investigated for possible collusion with party organizations. The Washington Post had an article yesterday concerning nonprofits. To quote them: ``Mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end of the 1996 election,'' that were targeted mainly against Democratic candidates. No one apparently knows who supports them. One group, the Coalition for Our Children's Future, spent $700,000 on ads, mailings, phone banks, to help Republican candidates from Louisiana to California. Another group, Citizens for Reform, spent $2 million on ads, including a mailing labeling a Democratic candidate for Congress as sexist and anticonsumer. And this organization is tax exempt. They are not supposed to deal in political matters. In the case of tax-exempt organizations, collusion with a political party would be illegal but would not involve criminal penalties. In the case of a so-called 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, which is prohibited from engaging in political activity, there is the question of whether the placing of certain issue ads should be considered political activity under certain circumstances. Will this be investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee under the funding resolutions' current scope statement? That will depend on how the word ``illegal'' is interpreted. I must say, at several points along the way we have had different interpretations of that word. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the Washington Post article be printed in the Record at the end of my remarks. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. (See exhibit 1.) Mr. GLENN. That is only the beginning of the problems with this resolution. It also requires that if any evidence of illegality is discovered in the 1996 campaign activities of a Member of Congress by a Member of Congress, then such evidence is to be referred to the Ethics Committee. Does that mean the committee's investigation is to be terminated at that point? And, if the evidence comes to the attention of the committee before an investigation has even been initiated, does that mean the committee is to defer to the Ethics Committee for the investigation of the Member? Does referral to the Ethics Committee mean that Governmental Affairs will defer to the Ethics Committee on any possible criminal referral to the Department of Justice? We need answers to all of those things, obviously. What if we are into an investigation and there is something that pops up that looks as though it might be an ethical matter and might be illegal, which this committee would be permitted to deal with? Since there is this special provision with regard to ethics in the Senate, in referring it to the Ethics Committee, do we have to stop any investigation before anything comes out beyond a point where there has been just an allegation of illegality? So, let me return to the question of the meaning of the word ``illegal'' in the resolution. What is the standard to be used by the Governmental Affairs Committee to determine that an activity involves an illegality and is therefore subject to an investigation? Is illegality meant to be equivalent to criminality? Or is it broader and includes activities that are in violation of law but subject to only civil penalties or no penalties at all? The answer to this question will determine whether the activities of tax-exempt organizations engaged in political activity will be investigated. I believe the questions I am raising need to be answered during this debate so Members will know precisely what they are voting on when the time comes. These questions also need to be answered in order to examine whether the 54 subpoenas issued thus far by the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee are within the new scope of the investigation. Let me turn to some other deficiencies in the resolution. These are also deficiencies of omission. My remarks stem once again from my belief that a balanced investigation of fundraising by both parties, highlighting legal transgressions as well as their legal but ethically dubious fundraising activities, could be effective in pointing the way toward real reform. Conversely, an unbalanced, partisan investigation suggesting that the problems lie solely or even mainly with one party would be destructive to forging a consensus and would lead to political games, possibly including an attempt to pass reform legislation crafted not so much to fix the system as to give one party a fundraising advantage over the other. As the ranking Democrat on Governmental Affairs, I have urged the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee to follow standard Senate practices and enter into a written agreement that the investigation will be [[Page S2060]] carried out in a bipartisan manner with an agreed-upon agenda and with fairness. That involves ensuring that both the majority and minority: have contemporaneous access to all documentary evidence received by the committee; have the right to be given adequate advance notice of, to be present at, and to participate equally in all depositions and investigatory interviews; have equal opportunity to obtain and present relevant evidence on the subjects of the committee's inquiry; and, are treated equally and without discrimination in the discharge of the committee's administrative responsibilities. I regret to say that no agreement on these matters has been reached thus far. This has most egregiously shown up in the way subpoenas have been handled thus far. I am hopeful that passage of a funding resolution for the committee's investigation will be the occasion to put this investigation back on a bipartisan track. I believe that failure to do so will redound to the credit of no one and mark the first major stain on this committee's record of bipartisan cooperation during my 22-year tenure on it. Finally, I must comment on that part of the resolution that provides for authorization of some $450,000 in additional funds for the Rules Committee to examine those aspects of campaign fundraising that are outside the scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation under the terms of this resolution as currently written. It is certainly true that the Rules Committee has legislative jurisdiction over campaign finance reform and, therefore, can look into soft money and independent expenditures, among other things, as policy matters. But the Rules Committee is not basically an investigative committee. I could not recall the last time it ever issued a subpoena. We made some inquiry into this and found that no subpoenas have been issued by the committee since at least 1980. We do not know whether any were before that time or not. They may do hearings, but that is not the same as an investigation as conceived under this resolution. Let us not deceive the public about this. Recent press reports clearly indicated that at least two members of the Rules Committee, Republican members of the Rules Committee, would not vote for the funding resolution for the investigation that originally came out of the Governmental Affairs Committee because the scope of the investigation would have included legal as well as illegal congressional fundraising practices. Those Members were concerned that the result of such an investigation might be to raise public pressure on Congress to pass campaign finance reform legislation. The fact is, there is little support for campaign reform among my Republican colleagues. The McCain-Feingold bill has only one other Republican cosponsor, and that is Senator Thompson, to his credit. So we know what game is being played with the Rules Committee rewrite of the previously-agreed-to scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation. It is a game in which legal but improper congressional fundraising is kept off the table while a parade of Presidential fundraisers for the Democratic Party and the Clinton-Gore campaign are brought before the cameras at televised hearings, to give the impression that all the problems are with the Democratic Party and there is no need to change the laws. I do not believe it will work. I do not believe the American people are that naive. I believe they will see through such a strategy were it to unfold. Chairman Thompson has said congressional fundraising should be on the table. I agree with him. That is one of the reasons I was disappointed when none of his first 65 subpoenas were directed toward congressional fundraising. I and my Democratic colleagues will attempt to broaden the scope to include legal activities that are improper, which is where many of the major campaign finance problems are, and which should be thoroughly investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee. So, I hope--in fact I invite Chairman Thompson to join me in cosponsoring an amendment I plan to offer to broaden the scope, and I invite him to join me in voting against tabling any such amendment. I also invite all Members of the Senate, Democratic and Republican, who truly want to change our system to join us. Let us look at it from your children's perspective of 20 years from now. Whichever party is in the majority--and that may have changed in that time, maybe before that--but look at your children as adults out there, taking part in the political system at that time. Whichever party is in the majority at that time, I am sure we can all hope that political fundraising will not be the mess that it is today. One way to gain that end is to assure that investigations are carried out now without fear or favor and spotlighting the dark corners, whether illegal or legal, but in either event, wrong, improper, and unethical. The resolution before us does not take us in that direction, and that is why I also urge Senator Thompson, even if we fail to pass such an amendment, to seek every opportunity at our committee level to examine and thoroughly investigate any alleged illegal fundraising activities by Members of Congress, in the House or Senate. That will at least be a start, and I pledge my full support to such efforts. So I await with interest his proposed agenda and subpoenas in this area. At the appropriate time today, before we finish this debate, I will have an amendment to submit. I would like to lay it down this evening. I doubt all the people on either side of the aisle who wish to speak on the amendment will return before we go out of session, but I would like to have time later on to submit the amendment before we go out of session this evening. I yield the floor. Exhibit 1 [From the Washington Post, Mar. 9, 1997] For Their Targets, Mystery Groups' Ads Hit Like Attacks From Nowhere (By Charles R. Babcock and Ruth Marcus) Campaign watchdog groups and government regulators are concerned about the emergence of mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end the 1996 election and could play an even larger role in coming campaigns. The groups, with bland names such as Citizens for Reform and the Republic Education Fund, spent millions of dollars on television advertising, mailings and telephone banks in the closing weeks of the campaign, mostly on the side of the Republicans. None of their activities was reported to the Federal Election Commission (FEC). ``The public has no idea who these people are or where they're coming from or who funds them,'' said Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, which monitors political ethics. ``They are trying to influence the political process and the public is in the dark.'' For example, a group called the Coalition for Our Children's Future spent more than $700,000 on television and radio ads, mailings, and telephone banks to bolster GOP candidates in key races from Louisiana to California. The last-minute onslaught, financed in part by a donor who demanded a written confidentiality agreement, was conducted without the knowledge or approval of the group's directors. Two of the directors resigned in protest after The Washington Post informed them of the late ads, saying they never approved the expenditures. They said they still do not know exactly what was done or the source of funding. Former director Deborah Steelman, a GOP lobbyist, said she thought the group had been inactive since spending more than $4 million on advertising backing the GOP's legislative agenda in 1995. ``Clearly, the organization created another mission of which we were not a part,'' she said. Like the more identifiable AFL-CIO and environmental groups that also ran advertising, leaders of organizations such as the coalition say their television commercials were not political because they did not explicitly endorse a candidate. Since they were engaging in ``issue advocacy,'' they said, they were not required to report to the FEC the source of their funds or how much they spent. One group created last spring and calling itself Citizens for Reform spent $2 million in the closing days, according to its president, conservative activist Peter Flaherty. In California, it sent mailings into the district of Democratic Rep. George Brown accusing him of being sexist and anti- consumer. The Consumer Federation of America, cited as the source in one flier although it endorsed Brown, denounced the mailing as ``extremely misleading and grossly unfair.'' In Montana, the group bought television time calling Democratic congressional candidate Bill Yellowtail a convicted criminal who ``preaches family values . . . but took a swing at his wife.'' Another new group called Citizens for the Republic Educaiton Fund obtained at least $1 million in late ads, according to director Lyn Nofziger, longtime political aide to Ronald Reagan. In Texas, it bought television ads against Democratic congressional candidate Nick Lampson that said he had been [[Page S2061]] accused of Medicare fraud. In Erie, Pa., another television ad denounced ``big labor bosses'' for trying to buy ``a Congress they can control.'' Some ads were so inflammatory that the Republican candidates they were designed to help denounced them. And some stations would not run some ads or pulled them off the air after complaints by Democratic candidates. Leaders of the groups targeting Democrats say they operated independently and they and GOP officials said the groups were not fronts for the party. Nofziger called it, ``outrageous'' that advocacy groups like his are allowed to ``go and run political ads and call them education.'' He added, ``We wouldn't have had to do it if it had not been for labor'' and its attacks on GOP candidates. The Flaherty and Nofziger groups were run by a Washington- based firm, Triad Management, that advertises itself as sort of an underground version of the Republican Party. A Triad marketing video includes testimonials from Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.) and several House members aimed at recruiting donors for what the video labels a ``privatized Republican national coalition.'' Triad's Carolyn Malenick, a former fund-raiser for Oliver L. North, says on the video that labor has always been the ``rapid fire'' of the Democratic Party. ``If the Republican Party needs that quote `rapid fire' where're we going to find it?'' she said. ``If we need to move or have $100,000 put into a congressional race tomorrow where're we going to find it?'' Malenick declined to be interviewed. Mark Braden, Triad's attorney, said the group was not a front for the GOP or a particular special interest, like the tobacco industry. Malenick's donors are mostly individuals from ``ideologically driven networks,'' he said. While most of the late negative issue ads with mysterious sponsors targeted Democratic races, a labor-funded group, the '96 Project, paid for voter guides mailed in the name of other groups in 14 races. The project paid $50,000 for mailings in six House districts where the fliers said they were ``sponsored'' by local or state affiliates of the National Council of Senior Citizens, a group made up predominantly of retired union members. There was no mention of the '96 Project in the mailings. Scott Wolf, director of the project, said there was no intent to deceive the public on who was behind the mailings, which made GOP candidates look unfavorable on key issues. His group also paid for mailings in eight races ``sponsored'' by the Interfaith Alliance, a group of ministers formed as an alternative to the Christian Coalition, according to the alliance's Greg Lebel. Lebel said ``it never occurred to us'' voters might be misled because the eight mailings said only that the '96 Project ``prepared'' the voter guides. Most of the late money from obscure groups was spent on television. And Federal Communications Commission officials who monitor political advertising say their authority over broadcasters is limited. Charles Kelley, chief of enforcement for the FCC's mass media bureau, said the agency wants to know ``who is the attempted persuader'' in such ads. The question, he said, is ``what legal authority we have, if any, to obligate the true sponsor to step forward.'' The FCC managed to do that in a case in Oregon last fall, when it discovered that a group calling itself Fairness Matters to Oregonians was being financed by the Tobacco Institute. The FCC ruled the group's ads, which opposed an increase in the state cigarette tax, could be aired but the tobacco Institute had to be identified as the sponsor. Various campaign reform proposals in Congress attempt to address the late attacks by saying the name or image of candidates cannot be mentioned in ads in the last 60 days before the general election. But many lawmakers and interest groups say such proposals would put unconstitutional limits on their First Amendment rights. Flaherty, who also heads the Conservative Campaign Fund PAC, said concerns about sponsorship are misplaced. ``Most people when they see an ad don't focus on who put it on, but focus on the message,'' he said. ``If the message has strength and credibility it will persuade people. If it doesn't, it won't.'' In applying for tax-exempt status, which allowed it to avoid paying taxes on investment income, Citizens for Reform told the IRS it had no plans to spend money ``attempting to influence'' elections. But asked whether the groups' advertising had been effective, Flaherty said, ``I think we made a big difference. It was an absolute onslaught in some of these areas by labor and liberal groups and I think we helped stanch the bleeding artery.'' Perhaps the most peculiar of the late ad campaigns was the one run in the name of the Coalition for our Children's Future, which spent money in six House districts, the Louisiana Senate race and 12 Minnesota legislative races, according to Executive Director Barry Bennett. Two directors, Dirk Van Dongen, president of the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors, and Donald L. Fierce, a GOP consultant and former Republican National Committee aide, resigned in protest; two others, Steelman and Gary Andres, had left the board earlier. How the unauthorized advertising campaign was launched and how races were targeted remains murky. Bennett, working in Ohio at the time of the election as chief of staff to then- Rep. Frank A. Cremeans (R), at first said he did not know of any extensive late advertising. Then he acknowledged he had signed the secrecy agreement with the donor and signed blank checks to pay a Houston political consultant who ran the advertising campaign. Bennett said he did so without telling board members. Bennett and the group's fund-raising consultant, John Simms, said the consultant, Denis Calabrese, approached them last summer and helped connect them with some donors, who they declined to identify. Calabrese, who has worked on industry's side to make it harder to win large damage awards in lawsuits, did not return numerous phone calls. Bennett said he had tried without success, after the Post inquiries, to obtain copies of the television scripts from Simms' firm. He said he had no idea what the coalition, organized to address federal issues, was doing in Minnesota statehouse races. ``Am I embarrassed by this?'' Bennett said before he stopped returning phone calls. ``Yes . . . I understand we've created a huge mystery here and that's our fault.'' Mr. WARNER addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Allard). The Senator from Virginia. Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, there are others anxious to speak to this. I see Senator Hatch is here, and I want to, just in reply to my distinguished friend and colleague, say a few words here, and then Senator Hatch, hopefully, will take the floor momentarily. First, I want to make it very clear, I am not going to personalize this debate in any way or use the word ``pandering.'' Nobody is pandering anybody around here. What we are trying to do is how to get as quickly as possible to the point where the U.S. Senate, in several committees, can start looking into this very important issue, hopefully in a fair and objective manner, for the best interests of this institution and our country. I have been in politics--I am almost hesitant to mention how many years--but it is a good 40-plus, and I have never in my lifetime ever seen a situation engulfing this great Nation, casting more doubt in the minds of the voters with regard to how we, those who serve in the Congress and those who serve in the executive branch as the President and Vice President, go about the process of elections, and we have to get at the bottom of this thing as quickly as possible. I have indicated my support for Chairman Fred Thompson as a man I have absolute faith in, who can deal with this matter fairly and objectively, and I have said that for weeks. Never once have I deviated, and I do not think there will ever be a basis that I shall deviate. I said from the beginning that I want to support him as an individual. I want to support the work of his committee. But there is a very careful delineation of responsibilities here among the several committees, and there is clearly, within the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, which I am privileged to chair, the right to superimpose our own judgment on the scope and activities of the other committees of the Senate as it relates to those funds under our jurisdiction. This is in no way any bald-faced effort by myself or other members of the Rules Committee, particularly the distinguished majority leader, who was just on the floor consulting with me minutes ago, no way to try to do other than what I have just said, which is to get the Senate on the track as quickly as possible. We just have to get beyond all of this procedure business and get on with the business. I said that I drew this scope language, drawing from the Watergate. I never said I used it. I have read it now probably 25 times and studied the history of it. I know all the words that are in it. It is interesting. In the Watergate resolution, I ask my friend, if he wants to debate it later on, whether or not you find any authority in there to investigate the Congress. I do not find it in the Watergate resolution, but it is very clearly expressed in this resolution as adopted by the Rules Committee. We in no way tried to obfuscate that issue. This volume is the ``Authority and Rules of Senate Committees'' for the last fiscal year, but it is applicable to this. I would like to just read the question of jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, and it is found on page 155 of that book. It states we have the authority to investigate ``corrupt practices.'' Now that is about as broad as any charter can be--as broad as any charter can be. Then go to section 5: [[Page S2062]] Federal elections generally, including the election of the President, Vice President, and Members of the Congress. There it is. That is the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee. Now go over to the jurisdiction of the Governmental Affairs Committee--and I urge my colleague from Ohio to take a moment or two to look through this book so that he can reply--found on page 101, and in detail on page 102, where it says, the committee is duly authorized, or a subcommittee thereof is authorized to study and investigate. You do not find--at least I haven't thus far in studying it--that precise language as it relates to the Rules Committee concerning jurisdiction over precisely what it is that the U.S. Senate must investigate. If anything, this volume gives clearly the authority to the Rules Committee, and I find less specificity as it relates to the Governmental Affairs Committee. Lastly, as to campaign finance reform, the generic subject, the Rules Committee held a number of hearings last year. We already commenced our series of hearings this year. The distinguished majority leader designated the majority whip, Mr. Nickles, and a group of us, including the Senator from Virginia speaking, and it is our responsibility to try to come up with a grouping of proposals which we have reason to believe will effect the greatest possible reform in this generic subject of campaign finance reform. You bet there are areas which I would like to see changed. In my last campaign, I experienced spending by my opponent--and I do not castigate him in any way at this point in time, nor did I ever--but clearly he had the authority under the Supreme Court decision to spend all the money of his personal funds he wished. He set a record in the history of the U.S. Senate races from the first day this body was constituted through and including today for the greatest amount of money spent for a State per capita in the United States. I think we should enact some legislation that would curtail, in some manner, the limit of an individual to expend millions and millions and millions of dollars. In the case of my race, it is presumably in excess, it was reported, $10 million out of personal spending. Maybe subsequent records will show an additional amount, but that is not here to argue. The point being, the only way that can be done is by a constitutional amendment. I would not want to see this body rest its entire package of reforms that a constitutional amendment is going to be adopted in this area of campaign finance reform. My own personal opinion, it is highly unlikely that such an amendment, even though I would favor certain types of constitutional amendments on campaign reform, that that can be achieved; essentially, the first amendment, which, again, would require a constitutional amendment. There are many areas of campaign finance reform that would be solely predicated on the ability to get a constitutional amendment in order to achieve those goals. I would not want to see this body pass a package of campaign finance reform proposals knowing full well in our hearts that the Federal court is going to strike down in large measure a number of those provisions. So I look forward to continuing to work with the distinguished majority leader and the majority whip in seeing what we can come up with in a package of campaign finance reform proposals which can be adopted by this body and, Mr. President, can withstand the essential scrutiny that will come about by the third branch of Government, namely, the Federal court system. Mr. President, I now yield the floor. Mr. HATCH addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah. Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, it befalls me to make a few comments here today concerning why this investigation is so important. Before I do, I want to compliment the Rules Committee and the people on the Rules Committee who have handled this very difficult subject matter and have done it in a credible and responsible way. I also personally believe that no two people could handle this matter better than the chairman and ranking member of the Governmental Affairs Committee. Senator Thompson has had extensive experience in these matters and Senator Glenn is known as an eminently fair and worthy person here in this body. I have total confidence in both of them that they will be fair, they will be thorough, they will be tough, and they will do what is right. We simply have to get to the bottom of this. The American people are concerned about it. Certainly the media has written extensively about these matters. It is incumbent upon the Senate in its oversight capacity to investigate these matters fairly and thoroughly. As we take up Senate Resolution 39 today, I would like to just take a few minutes to emphasize one major point: That there is a serious number of very, very troubling matters to investigate, simply at the very core of Senators Thompson's and Glenn's inquiry. Merely in recent press reports--if that is all you had--there are very substantial and troubling questions that must be answered regarding whether foreign money and foreign influence has infiltrated the American political process. While numerous other allegations of improper fundraising at the White House and by the White House have surfaced in the media in the past week or so, that is not what I want to talk about today. Even putting aside all of those allegations, the fact is that we have before us very serious allegations that China funneled funds into American elections in an attempt to influence American policy and policymakers. The gravity of these allegations should not and must not be underestimated. Were our national interests sold out? I hope they were not. But this matter must be pursued, and it must be done in a thorough, fair, and honest manner. Later this week the Judiciary Committee will forward a letter to the Attorney General requesting that she apply for an independent counsel. To date, she has refused to do so in this matter. I do not read anything sinister into that--I believe that the Attorney General is an honorable, ethical person of integrity. She has applied for the appointment of no less than four independent counsels since she has been Attorney General. I think she has shown that she is a person who can act. But to date she has refused to act on this matter. Accordingly, Congress must be all the more vigilant. And given the apparent conflict of interest, the public will be relying on Congress to ascertain the facts and get to the bottom of this whole affair. The Governmental Affairs Committee inquiry into fundraising improprieties is, in my opinion, one of the most important congressional investigations in history and involves some of the most serious allegations we have seen to date about our electoral system and our Government. The press and congressional committees have uncovered material facts that prompt numerous questions: First, did a foreign government try to influence our national elections and our domestic and/or foreign policy? No. 2, were millions of dollars of foreign money laundered through various groups to the Democratic National Committee, particularly by three individuals--Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, and John Huang, all of whom have some ties to China. No. 3, were there violations of any of our existing laws, such as the Hatch Act, the Ethics in Government Act, and our current Federal elections laws? The breadth of this particular investigation is immense. We cannot allow ourselves, in an attempt to satisfy the tendentious cause for a broad inquiry into congressional campaigns, to interfere with what is a serious matter. Investigating the 1996 Presidential campaign alone will require a very substantial budget and a substantial amount of time--I presume even more time than the Rules Committee has allowed in this instance, which is only until the end of this year or approximately 8 months. I suspect this will go on beyond that and will have to go on beyond that because of what will be brought out. Let us focus for a moment, however, in terms of the breadth of this investigation, on one individual--Mr. John Huang. He was born in China. He worked for the Lippo Group, a huge conglomerate based in Indonesia with large business interests in China. Lippo is owned and controlled by the Riady family-- Mochtar, James, and Stephen. These are also Chinese natives. [[Page S2063]] By 1994, Huang was the top Lippo executive in the United States. Huang was appointed Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Economic Policy in our Department of Commerce in September 1994. Let me just go down through what John Huang did while employed at Commerce--just a quick glance. He was, according to reports, given a top security clearance without the usual background check, which is all but unheard of; 78-plus visits to the White House; 70-plus calls to Lippo during this period of time; 39 classified top secret briefings dwelling on China and other countries in Asia; 30-plus phone conversations with Mark Middleton or associates; 9 phone messages from or calls to Webster Hubbell; 9 phone messages from the Chinese Embassy officials; 5 months of top secret clearance before joining the Commerce Department. In other words, even before he got in this very important position in Government, he had 5 months of top secret clearance. Why? That is a question that is going to be a big question in this matter. Huang enjoyed a top secret clearance for 5 months of top secret clearance before joining Commerce and nearly a year after leaving Commerce to join the Democratic National Committee. Why? Why would those security clearances go with him outside of Government? Why would he be permitted this kind of access to very sensitive information? These are questions that are very important. Taken with the $780,000 severance pay Huang received from Lippo prior to joining the Commerce Department, these facts naturally raise questions. This next chart involves a meeting at the White House to discuss the Huang transfer from the White House to the Democratic National Committee on September 13, 1995. It was an Oval Office meeting. The President was there. James Riady, the Lippo executive was there. Bruce Lindsey, the Deputy White House Counsel, was there. Joseph Giroir, who is, I believe, the former top partner in the Rose Law Firm, the Lippo joint venture partner/adviser, former Rose Law Firm partner, and, if I recall correctly, was the managing partner of that firm, and none other than John Huang, former Lippo executive, Principal Deputy Assistant, Secretary of Commerce. At this meeting, it was decided that John Huang would move from the Commerce Department to the Democratic National Committee as vice chairman of finance. We do not know what happened at this meeting, although some extremely troubling explanations have been reported by the media. Each one of these people, it seems to me, with the possible exception of the President, will have to be questioned regarding just what went on at that meeting, why Huang left Commerce, and why he was immediately transferred to the Democratic National Committee as the finance vice chairman, why James Riady, was even at this meeting. That is a very important meeting. Let me put another chart up here. This is John Huang at the Democratic National Committee. These are examples of illegal funds raised by Huang. The Wiriadinatas raised $450,000, all of which was returned by the DNC. Pauline Kanchanalak, $250,000. She has since left the country. She is now in Thailand. All funds returned by the DNC. Wogesh Gandhi, $250,000. He testified he had no assets. All funds returned by the DNC, the Democratic National Committee. Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--$250,000. Like Kanchanalak and others, Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--has disappeared. All of these funds were returned by the Democratic National Committee. Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple, $166,750: This comes from a temple where the residents take a vow of poverty; $74,000 of the $166,750 was returned by the DNC. All together, that we know of, John Huang raised $3.4 million, $1.6 million of which has been returned by the Democratic National Committee. These are just a few of some of the problems that I think the Governmental Affairs Committee is going to have to go into. I do not see how they can avoid doing it. To give a picture of some of the people who seem to be involved in this, let me just highlight some of the other individuals involved in this affair. We start with John Huang, former top Lippo executive in the United States, who had a $780,000 severance package when he went to Congress. He had multiple contacts while there with Lippo. The former Democratic National Committee vice chairman raised more than $3.4 million, $1.6 million was returned, and he visited the White House during this period more than 75 times. C.J. Giroir, in the Lippo joint ventures, former Rose Law Firm attorney, met with James Riady, President Clinton, and Lindsey on the Huang move to DNC, and donated $25,000 to the DNC. Mark Middleton, former White House aide from Little Rock, met with James Riady and President Clinton on that occasion, Far East business interests, had unlimited access to the White House after his departure. Charles Trie, Little Rock restauranteur, received a $60,000 loan from Lippo, and he arranged with the former Lippo executive Antonio Pan to get a Hong Kong dinner for Ron Brown. Trie also attempted to give $600,000 to the Clinton legal trust fund, and he visited the White House at least 37 times. Mark Grobmyer, Little Rock attorney, close friend of President Clinton, consultant to Lippo, Far East business interests, met with James Riady, Huang and President Clinton. Soraya Wiriadinata, daughter of Hashin Ning, former Lippo executive, contributed $450,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned, according to the committee. Soraya has gone back to Indonesia. S. Wang Jun, Lippo joint ventures, Chinese arms merchant, senior executive at CITIC and COSTIND, Chinese Government entities, and attended a White House conference. Webster Hubbell, former Associate Attorney General, received a $250,000 consulting fee from Lippo--would not say why he got that. Charles DeQueljoe is the president of Lippo Securities in Jakarta, gave $70,000 to the Democratic National Committee and was appointed to the USTR office. Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai lobbyist who worked with Huang when he was at Lippo, contributed $253,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned. She had frequent contacts with Huang. She visited the White House at least 26 times. And then we come back to John Huang himself. Now, all of these people are going to have to be interviewed. We are going to have to find out what the facts are here. What was going on? Were there illegalities? In that regard, these are key players who have taken the fifth amendment: John Huang, Charlie Trie, Pauline Kanchanalak, Mark Middleton, and Webster Hubbell. I do not see how anybody on the other side of the floor can argue that this set of hearings should not go on, or that this would not take almost every second of any committee's time, and I am only talking about one aspect of it. There are many other aspects to this. The key players who have left the country--and we have not been given reasons why they left the country--are John H.K. Lee--gone. If he is going to be interviewed, it is overseas. Charlie Trie, gone, after taking the fifth. Pauline Kanchanalak, gone--as far as I know, back in Thailand, after having taken the fifth amendment. Arief and Soraya Wiriadinata, gone. Charles DeQueljoe, gone. And James and Mochtar Riady, gone. They left the country. All this is a brief discussion of one aspect of this. There are other aspects of this, but this is a brief glimpse into some of the serious allegations the Government Oversight Committee will have to look into. I emphasize the point with which I opened, just that at the core of this investigation is a vast series of matters which must be looked into. This will be one of the most important congressional investigations in history. I hope it is not obstructed by partisan tactics and politics. I hope with all my heart it is not. I think the American people expect as much. When I found out over the weekend that the FBI--and I did not know this before--had notified seven Members of Congress that they might be receiving laundered funds from a foreign country, mainly China, I was kind of shocked at that, because if they informed those seven Members of Congress, surely the FBI informed the White House. I have been led to believe by the FBI they informed the National Security Council. That being the case, [[Page S2064]] why are all these people having such access to our White House under those circumstances? As chairman of the Judiciary Committee, as chairman of the committee that oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, naturally, I have to be concerned about it. Now, in addition to all of this, there are newer revelations coming out every day. I challenge the Government Affairs Committee to substantiate these allegations, to look into them. Let me just list some of the new revelations about the campaign finance scandals that were first reported after the Governmental Affairs Committee made a request of $6.5 million to investigate the scandal. First, Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes made a telephone call from Air Force One to warn of the wiring of the money to the Democratic National Committee and additional funds to nonprofit organizations. There is some indication they used Air Force One for the purpose of raising funds. I hope that is not the case. Second, questions have been raised concerning whether the White House database was created for official--as opposed to political--purposes, since it contained individuals' Social Security numbers, nicknames, relations to the First Family, pet political issues, and sometimes a photograph. Third, China may have sought to influence U.S. policy through the direction of foreign campaign contributions to the Democratic National Committee and actions taken at the Chinese embassy. It has been disclosed that Huang had contacts with the embassy while he worked at Commerce. Fourth, the NSC, National Security Council, at the White House provided the White House with warnings about Johnny Chung, who has ties to the Chinese Government, who was nonetheless subsequently granted access to the White House on numerous occasions, even though they knew about those ties. Fifth, Huang approached two business associates and offered to pay them $45,000 if they would take $250,000 from him and donate it in their own names to the Democratic National Committee. That is illegal. Sixth, the White House fired four staff members whose salaries were being paid by the Democratic National Committee while they were working at the White House. I don't know whether that has ever been done before, but it should not be done. There are other allegat

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Text of this article available as: TXT PDF [Pages S2057-S2078] AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will now proceed to the consideration of Senate Resolution 39, which the clerk will report. The bill clerk read as follows: A resolution (S. Res. 39) authorizing expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs. The Senate proceeded to consider the bill, which had been reported from the Committee on Rules and Administration, with an amendment to strike all after the resolving clause and insert the following: That (a) Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``Authorization of Additional Funds ``Sec. 24. (a) In General.--A sum equal to not more than $4,350,000, for the period beginning on the date of adoption of this section and ending on December 31, 1997, shall be made available from the contingent fund of the Senate out of the Account for Expenses for Inquiries and Investigations for payment of salaries and other expenses of the Committee on Governmental Affairs under this resolution, of which amount not to exceed $375,000 may be expended for the procurement of the services of individual consultants, or organizations thereof (as authorized by section 202(i) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946, as amended). The expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs authorized by this section supplement those authorized in section 13 and may be expended solely for the purpose stated in this section. ``(b) Purpose of Additional Funds.--The additional funds authorized by this section are for the sole purpose of conducting an investigation of illegal activities in connection with 1996 Federal election campaigns. ``(c) Referral To Select Committee on Ethics.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall refer any evidence of illegal activities involving any Member of the Senate revealed pursuant to the investigation authorized by subsection (b) to the Select Committee on Ethics. ``(d) Final Report.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall submit a final public report to the Senate no later than January 31, 1998, of the results of the investigation, study, and hearings conducted by the Committee pursuant to this section.''. (b) Section 16(b) of Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by-- (1) striking ``$1,339,109'' and inserting $1,789,109''; and (2) striking ``$200,000'' and inserting $300,000''. (c) The Committee on Rules and Administration shall continue to conduct hearings on campaign reform. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, on Thursday of last week, the Rules Committee reported out an amendment to Senate Resolution 39, and it is my understanding that the present business is that pending amendment, which does amend, if decided by the Senate, rule 39. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, I thank the Chair. We will now proceed to discuss the amendment as passed by the Rules Committee on Thursday of last week, the 6th of March. Madam President, the responsibility of the Rules Committee is to entertain, from all committees of the U.S. Senate, their requests for funding. We have, in Senate Resolution 54, which has been adopted by the Senate, the budgets for all of the committees of the Senate for their fiscal year, which runs from March 1 through February 28. The Committee on Governmental Affairs, in Senate Resolution 39, submitted their request for funding. In the initial consideration of Senate Resolution 39 by the Rules Committee, the committee determined that they would grant a portion of the funding request, and that is reflected in Senate Resolution 54. The Governmental Affairs Committee still had, under Senate Resolution 39, the balance of their request, which was considered on the 6th of March by the Rules Committee. After a full debate--and certainly in the judgment of the chairman, myself, and actively participated in by Senators on both sides, as we had nearly 100 percent attendance at the committee hearing on both sides--the committee voted to provide $4.35 million for the Committee on Governmental affairs as a supplemental to the request as reported in Senate Resolution 54. Now, how did we arrive at that figure? You can look at the request of the distinguished Senator from Ohio--indeed, a request that, by and large, was supported by most on that side of the aisle--that there be a definitive date for cutoff, and that date by the senior Senator from Ohio was December 31 of this calendar year, 1997. If I took that and viewed it as a reduced period of time; namely, that the Governmental Affairs Committee could begin its work using the supplemental funds, March 15, from a practical standpoint, through December 31, 1997, it would appear to this Senator that we would have, by and large, given that committee the funding profile in dollars in proportion to the timing from which those funds may be expended. The next question was the scope. I worked with other colleagues, primarily those on the Rules Committee, and I devised a formula, in consultation with the distinguished majority leader and others, whereby looking at the original Watergate resolution, we took from that the concept that we would allow the Governmental Affairs Committee to expend the supplemental budget for such investigations that they felt were illegal in connection with the 1996 Presidential election and congressional elections--not delineating between the House and Senate, but simply all Federal elections in calendar year 1996. So it seems to me that the Rules Committee, in a fair manner, recognized the dollars that we needed, gave the Governmental Affairs Committee a scope of the investigation and illegal--illegal is a very broad scope. It goes beyond. And I will at a later time today put into the Record the definitions of illegal. But it goes beyond just criminal assertions of allegations of criminal violations. It goes beyond that. So it is a broad scope. Then the Rules Committee took from the proposal, which the senior Senator from Ohio will address momentarily, a termination date of December 31, 1997. In addition to the Rules Committee, I think very importantly recognizing the essential need for the Senate of the United States to actively participate in determining what happened, certainly in 1996 in connection with the ever-increasing number of allegations--most [[Page S2058]] of them regrettably could border on or do, in fact, constitute illegal--it was essential that the other committees of the Senate take on their responsibilities, which is traditional under the allocation in the Senate of the responsibilities among the several committees. Therefore, we charged the Rules Committee, of which I am privileged to be the chairman, the duty to continue its hearings on campaign finance reform, gave it a sum of $450,000 to be used by that committee in enlarging and broadening the scope of their operations in the overall context of campaign reform and campaign financing. So the Rules Committee will take on an added role. In addition, if there is that development by the Governmental Affairs Committee or the Rules Committee of facts which should be examined by the Ethics Committee of the U.S. Senate as those facts relate to a Member of this body, it will be incumbent upon the Ethics Committee to review any allegations we feel merit the judgment of that committee as it relates to an individual in the U.S. Senate. So, Madam President, I feel that the Rules Committee unanimously, regrettably--bipartisan, yet unanimous among the Republicans--has addressed this tough issue, and we are here today for the purpose of amending Senate Resolution 39 such that they can have the additional funds and under a very carefully crafted and proscribed scope of activities within a time limit of December 31, 1997. Madam President, I yield the floor so that my distinguished colleague from Ohio can present his views. Mr. GLENN addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Ohio. Mr. GLENN. Madam President, we are now into the second week in March. The Senate has been operating for approximately 2 months. I don't know that we have had much in the way of accomplishment during that time period. Certainly, there are national problems that should be addressed. For example, we ought to be working on balancing the budget instead of just trying to pass amendments, which we tried to do, and it failed. We also have a series of problems with our health care system. Managed care may be saving money, but there is increasing evidence that it is happening at the expense of lower quality of health care. So, for uninsured Americans, that continues to be a major problem. As far as health care goes, we are going to have a debate, I guess, about partial-birth abortion. In other areas, the stock market has gone through the roof. Unemployment is at a 25-year low. But there is concern about the future, and about Social Security and Medicare. But there are no serious proposals by the Republican majority to deal with these issues. Well, today we have an opportunity. We have an opportunity to have the possibility of beginning a serious discussion about a serious issue: the campaign finance system used by both political parties in the United States. The American people are disgusted by what they see in campaign finance. And they should be. Along with the steady drumbeat of antigovernment ideologues, it is a major factor in America's loss of faith in our institutions of government. It is that serious. All you have to do is look at the polling data and such things as decreased participation in voting. If this trend continues, if America goes downhill because of the lack of confidence in our Federal Government, I say that we face a crisis that could literally threaten the foundation of democracy in the United States. There is a remedy to avert this crisis, as I see it, and to begin the restoration of public support for this system of government. The remedy requires that we reform the campaign finance system. It is a wonderful place to start because it certainly needs reforming. Will this get a serious examination by Congress, or will we get sidetracked by a partisan political circus? The jury is definitely out on that at this time. We have before us a resolution to fund a Senate investigation which, if the scope were made broader than it currently is, has enormous potential as a tool to stimulate public pressure on Congress to enact meaningful campaign finance reform, honest campaign finance reform. Recent revelations about fundraising involving 1996 Federal races are disturbing. They involve both parties in both congressional and Presidential campaigns. The truth is that the current fundraising system, both Presidential and congressional, is scandalous. Having said that, in my opinion, most Members of Congress are honest elected officials, both over in the House and here in the Senate. They are honest elected officials trying to do a good job, albeit from different political philosophies. But that is our system. But the general public perception that money gets its way in determining policy is, indeed, true for too many. There is a public perception that access follows money, and anybody who has been around Capitol Hill very long knows that sometimes it does. Access can alter the balance of arguments weighed by a Member and his or her staff when deciding a course of action, be it a vote on the floor or in committee, a colloquy on the Senate floor, introduction or cosponsorship of a piece of legislation, floor speech, insertion of language in a committee report, or a communication with an executive branch agency requesting an action, or the withholding of an action. But even when there is no connection whatsoever between a donation by a person to a politician and the latter's specific action as a legislator favoring that person, the perception of a payoff, even the possibility of a perception of a payoff, is corrosive to public trust in our Government. We must dispel this growing perception that Congress or parts of Congress are for sale if we are to reverse electoral apathy and restore faith in our Government. Gift bans have not done it. Honoraria bans have not done it. Only deep changes in the campaign finance system will do the job, and it will not be easy. The question is what should be the relationship of the Governmental Affairs Committee investigation to the drive for effective bipartisan campaign finance reform? The resolution before us, S. 39, as amended by the Rules Committee, states that the supplemental funds to be given to the Governmental Affairs Committee for this investigation are for the sole purpose of an investigation into illegal activities in the 1996 Federal election campaign. There are two things wrong with this statement of scope for the investigation. The first thing is that it is a bald-faced attempt by the Republican majority of the Rules Committee to undo a unanimous bipartisan agreement among the members of the Governmental Affairs Committee to have a broad investigation that would examine improper as well as illegal activities along with previous campaigns. Contrary to the claims of the Rules Committee chairman that his language tracks the Watergate resolution, the fact is that the Watergate resolution called for an investigation of improper and unethical activities as well as illegal ones. I am looking at a copy of the Watergate resolution that was passed in the Senate back in 1973. It was submitted by Senator Ervin, Sam Ervin and Mike Mansfield. In part 15 on page 8, it says they are ``to look into any other activities, circumstances, materials or transactions having a tendency to prove or disprove that persons, acting either individually or in combination with others, engaged in any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972, or any campaign, canvas, or activity related to such election.'' That is the language of one of the parts of what the Watergate Committee was to look into--any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972. The narrowing of the scope of the Governmental Affairs investigation by the Rules Committee is nothing more than a blatant pander to those elements in the Republican Party that do not wish to reform the campaign finance system and who are quite willing to scuttle the Governmental Affairs investigation if necessary to avoid creating public pressure to pass a decent bill. How does narrowing the scope to illegal activities avoid this problem for the Republicans? The first thing to understand is that the problem with the campaign finance system is not just what politicians do that is illegal. It is what politicians do that is legal that is [[Page S2059]] an equal scandal, and it happens every single day on Capitol Hill and with both political parties. Let me give you an example. Let us talk about soft money. That is the best example. One of the most pernicious influences in politics these days is soft money. Let me give you an example of that. Let us say Senator X, whoever it might be, solicits $50,000 or $500,000 in soft money from a potential donor to his or her party, ostensibly for party- building purposes, get-out-the-vote drives or the like. But the party can then turn around and use the money on an issue ad during the Senator's reelection campaign that helps him or her and hurts the opponent. According to the Department of Justice, Senator X can even do the solicitation for that $500,000 from his or her office because the solicitation is not for his or her campaign specifically but, rather, for the Senator's party. This practice should be illegal, but it is not. Suppose Senator X wants a direct contribution to his or her campaign from a potential donor, direct to his personal campaign. In that case, Federal election law prohibits the donor from contributing more than $1,000 per person, and it must be in the donor's own name. But that same donor can go out and collect checks of $1,000 for Senator X from everyone he knows, bundle them together, and send them to the Senator's campaign. Let us say Senator X calls from the Senator's office for those donations. If Senator X calls, he is committing an illegal act. But if Senator X calls from outside, it is OK. Suppose Senator X is so grateful, wherever the call came from, for the donor's willingness to help that the next time the donor is in town and wants to talk to Senator X about a legislative matter he has an interest in, Senator X not only lets him into his office but he welcomes him and listens to his pitch. And suppose that Senator X is sufficiently concerned about maintaining the donor's political help that the Senator does what the donor wants on the issue and there was no discussion linking the donation to the donor's request or to the Senator's action. In that case, there has been no bribe. But it is certainly the case that Senator X made his decision on the issue as a result of the donor having had access to the Senator, access that was based at least in part on the donation the Senator was given. Now, suppose Senator X made the original call to the donor from the Senator's office phone instead of from an outside phone. That would be a violation of law. You cannot do that. Let me pose the question. Which is the worst ethical lapse, making the phone call from a legally prohibited place or letting the money influence the Senator's vote? I submit that the answer is not even close. Senator X's constituents and the people generally will have been ill served if he lets money influence his decision, and that overshadows the question of whether the phone he used was a private phone or a Government phone. What is the point of this fictitious example? Well, the resolution before us, which limits the scope of the investigation only to illegal activities, would allow an investigation of whether Senator X committed an illegal act by using a Government phone for the direct solicitation if there was an allegation that he had done so but would allow no investigation of the contribution, and if a soft money contribution was involved, whether Senator X's party had spent that money on certain ads helpful to the Senator's campaign, a legal practice but one that should be illegal. It is not just the independent expenditures by the major parties that is the problem. There are also the independent expenditures by outside private groups including tax-exempt organizations that should be investigated for possible collusion with party organizations. The Washington Post had an article yesterday concerning nonprofits. To quote them: ``Mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end of the 1996 election,'' that were targeted mainly against Democratic candidates. No one apparently knows who supports them. One group, the Coalition for Our Children's Future, spent $700,000 on ads, mailings, phone banks, to help Republican candidates from Louisiana to California. Another group, Citizens for Reform, spent $2 million on ads, including a mailing labeling a Democratic candidate for Congress as sexist and anticonsumer. And this organization is tax exempt. They are not supposed to deal in political matters. In the case of tax-exempt organizations, collusion with a political party would be illegal but would not involve criminal penalties. In the case of a so-called 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, which is prohibited from engaging in political activity, there is the question of whether the placing of certain issue ads should be considered political activity under certain circumstances. Will this be investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee under the funding resolutions' current scope statement? That will depend on how the word ``illegal'' is interpreted. I must say, at several points along the way we have had different interpretations of that word. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the Washington Post article be printed in the Record at the end of my remarks. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. (See exhibit 1.) Mr. GLENN. That is only the beginning of the problems with this resolution. It also requires that if any evidence of illegality is discovered in the 1996 campaign activities of a Member of Congress by a Member of Congress, then such evidence is to be referred to the Ethics Committee. Does that mean the committee's investigation is to be terminated at that point? And, if the evidence comes to the attention of the committee before an investigation has even been initiated, does that mean the committee is to defer to the Ethics Committee for the investigation of the Member? Does referral to the Ethics Committee mean that Governmental Affairs will defer to the Ethics Committee on any possible criminal referral to the Department of Justice? We need answers to all of those things, obviously. What if we are into an investigation and there is something that pops up that looks as though it might be an ethical matter and might be illegal, which this committee would be permitted to deal with? Since there is this special provision with regard to ethics in the Senate, in referring it to the Ethics Committee, do we have to stop any investigation before anything comes out beyond a point where there has been just an allegation of illegality? So, let me return to the question of the meaning of the word ``illegal'' in the resolution. What is the standard to be used by the Governmental Affairs Committee to determine that an activity involves an illegality and is therefore subject to an investigation? Is illegality meant to be equivalent to criminality? Or is it broader and includes activities that are in violation of law but subject to only civil penalties or no penalties at all? The answer to this question will determine whether the activities of tax-exempt organizations engaged in political activity will be investigated. I believe the questions I am raising need to be answered during this debate so Members will know precisely what they are voting on when the time comes. These questions also need to be answered in order to examine whether the 54 subpoenas issued thus far by the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee are within the new scope of the investigation. Let me turn to some other deficiencies in the resolution. These are also deficiencies of omission. My remarks stem once again from my belief that a balanced investigation of fundraising by both parties, highlighting legal transgressions as well as their legal but ethically dubious fundraising activities, could be effective in pointing the way toward real reform. Conversely, an unbalanced, partisan investigation suggesting that the problems lie solely or even mainly with one party would be destructive to forging a consensus and would lead to political games, possibly including an attempt to pass reform legislation crafted not so much to fix the system as to give one party a fundraising advantage over the other. As the ranking Democrat on Governmental Affairs, I have urged the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee to follow standard Senate practices and enter into a written agreement that the investigation will be [[Page S2060]] carried out in a bipartisan manner with an agreed-upon agenda and with fairness. That involves ensuring that both the majority and minority: have contemporaneous access to all documentary evidence received by the committee; have the right to be given adequate advance notice of, to be present at, and to participate equally in all depositions and investigatory interviews; have equal opportunity to obtain and present relevant evidence on the subjects of the committee's inquiry; and, are treated equally and without discrimination in the discharge of the committee's administrative responsibilities. I regret to say that no agreement on these matters has been reached thus far. This has most egregiously shown up in the way subpoenas have been handled thus far. I am hopeful that passage of a funding resolution for the committee's investigation will be the occasion to put this investigation back on a bipartisan track. I believe that failure to do so will redound to the credit of no one and mark the first major stain on this committee's record of bipartisan cooperation during my 22-year tenure on it. Finally, I must comment on that part of the resolution that provides for authorization of some $450,000 in additional funds for the Rules Committee to examine those aspects of campaign fundraising that are outside the scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation under the terms of this resolution as currently written. It is certainly true that the Rules Committee has legislative jurisdiction over campaign finance reform and, therefore, can look into soft money and independent expenditures, among other things, as policy matters. But the Rules Committee is not basically an investigative committee. I could not recall the last time it ever issued a subpoena. We made some inquiry into this and found that no subpoenas have been issued by the committee since at least 1980. We do not know whether any were before that time or not. They may do hearings, but that is not the same as an investigation as conceived under this resolution. Let us not deceive the public about this. Recent press reports clearly indicated that at least two members of the Rules Committee, Republican members of the Rules Committee, would not vote for the funding resolution for the investigation that originally came out of the Governmental Affairs Committee because the scope of the investigation would have included legal as well as illegal congressional fundraising practices. Those Members were concerned that the result of such an investigation might be to raise public pressure on Congress to pass campaign finance reform legislation. The fact is, there is little support for campaign reform among my Republican colleagues. The McCain-Feingold bill has only one other Republican cosponsor, and that is Senator Thompson, to his credit. So we know what game is being played with the Rules Committee rewrite of the previously-agreed-to scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation. It is a game in which legal but improper congressional fundraising is kept off the table while a parade of Presidential fundraisers for the Democratic Party and the Clinton-Gore campaign are brought before the cameras at televised hearings, to give the impression that all the problems are with the Democratic Party and there is no need to change the laws. I do not believe it will work. I do not believe the American people are that naive. I believe they will see through such a strategy were it to unfold. Chairman Thompson has said congressional fundraising should be on the table. I agree with him. That is one of the reasons I was disappointed when none of his first 65 subpoenas were directed toward congressional fundraising. I and my Democratic colleagues will attempt to broaden the scope to include legal activities that are improper, which is where many of the major campaign finance problems are, and which should be thoroughly investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee. So, I hope--in fact I invite Chairman Thompson to join me in cosponsoring an amendment I plan to offer to broaden the scope, and I invite him to join me in voting against tabling any such amendment. I also invite all Members of the Senate, Democratic and Republican, who truly want to change our system to join us. Let us look at it from your children's perspective of 20 years from now. Whichever party is in the majority--and that may have changed in that time, maybe before that--but look at your children as adults out there, taking part in the political system at that time. Whichever party is in the majority at that time, I am sure we can all hope that political fundraising will not be the mess that it is today. One way to gain that end is to assure that investigations are carried out now without fear or favor and spotlighting the dark corners, whether illegal or legal, but in either event, wrong, improper, and unethical. The resolution before us does not take us in that direction, and that is why I also urge Senator Thompson, even if we fail to pass such an amendment, to seek every opportunity at our committee level to examine and thoroughly investigate any alleged illegal fundraising activities by Members of Congress, in the House or Senate. That will at least be a start, and I pledge my full support to such efforts. So I await with interest his proposed agenda and subpoenas in this area. At the appropriate time today, before we finish this debate, I will have an amendment to submit. I would like to lay it down this evening. I doubt all the people on either side of the aisle who wish to speak on the amendment will return before we go out of session, but I would like to have time later on to submit the amendment before we go out of session this evening. I yield the floor. Exhibit 1 [From the Washington Post, Mar. 9, 1997] For Their Targets, Mystery Groups' Ads Hit Like Attacks From Nowhere (By Charles R. Babcock and Ruth Marcus) Campaign watchdog groups and government regulators are concerned about the emergence of mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end the 1996 election and could play an even larger role in coming campaigns. The groups, with bland names such as Citizens for Reform and the Republic Education Fund, spent millions of dollars on television advertising, mailings and telephone banks in the closing weeks of the campaign, mostly on the side of the Republicans. None of their activities was reported to the Federal Election Commission (FEC). ``The public has no idea who these people are or where they're coming from or who funds them,'' said Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, which monitors political ethics. ``They are trying to influence the political process and the public is in the dark.'' For example, a group called the Coalition for Our Children's Future spent more than $700,000 on television and radio ads, mailings, and telephone banks to bolster GOP candidates in key races from Louisiana to California. The last-minute onslaught, financed in part by a donor who demanded a written confidentiality agreement, was conducted without the knowledge or approval of the group's directors. Two of the directors resigned in protest after The Washington Post informed them of the late ads, saying they never approved the expenditures. They said they still do not know exactly what was done or the source of funding. Former director Deborah Steelman, a GOP lobbyist, said she thought the group had been inactive since spending more than $4 million on advertising backing the GOP's legislative agenda in 1995. ``Clearly, the organization created another mission of which we were not a part,'' she said. Like the more identifiable AFL-CIO and environmental groups that also ran advertising, leaders of organizations such as the coalition say their television commercials were not political because they did not explicitly endorse a candidate. Since they were engaging in ``issue advocacy,'' they said, they were not required to report to the FEC the source of their funds or how much they spent. One group created last spring and calling itself Citizens for Reform spent $2 million in the closing days, according to its president, conservative activist Peter Flaherty. In California, it sent mailings into the district of Democratic Rep. George Brown accusing him of being sexist and anti- consumer. The Consumer Federation of America, cited as the source in one flier although it endorsed Brown, denounced the mailing as ``extremely misleading and grossly unfair.'' In Montana, the group bought television time calling Democratic congressional candidate Bill Yellowtail a convicted criminal who ``preaches family values . . . but took a swing at his wife.'' Another new group called Citizens for the Republic Educaiton Fund obtained at least $1 million in late ads, according to director Lyn Nofziger, longtime political aide to Ronald Reagan. In Texas, it bought television ads against Democratic congressional candidate Nick Lampson that said he had been [[Page S2061]] accused of Medicare fraud. In Erie, Pa., another television ad denounced ``big labor bosses'' for trying to buy ``a Congress they can control.'' Some ads were so inflammatory that the Republican candidates they were designed to help denounced them. And some stations would not run some ads or pulled them off the air after complaints by Democratic candidates. Leaders of the groups targeting Democrats say they operated independently and they and GOP officials said the groups were not fronts for the party. Nofziger called it, ``outrageous'' that advocacy groups like his are allowed to ``go and run political ads and call them education.'' He added, ``We wouldn't have had to do it if it had not been for labor'' and its attacks on GOP candidates. The Flaherty and Nofziger groups were run by a Washington- based firm, Triad Management, that advertises itself as sort of an underground version of the Republican Party. A Triad marketing video includes testimonials from Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.) and several House members aimed at recruiting donors for what the video labels a ``privatized Republican national coalition.'' Triad's Carolyn Malenick, a former fund-raiser for Oliver L. North, says on the video that labor has always been the ``rapid fire'' of the Democratic Party. ``If the Republican Party needs that quote `rapid fire' where're we going to find it?'' she said. ``If we need to move or have $100,000 put into a congressional race tomorrow where're we going to find it?'' Malenick declined to be interviewed. Mark Braden, Triad's attorney, said the group was not a front for the GOP or a particular special interest, like the tobacco industry. Malenick's donors are mostly individuals from ``ideologically driven networks,'' he said. While most of the late negative issue ads with mysterious sponsors targeted Democratic races, a labor-funded group, the '96 Project, paid for voter guides mailed in the name of other groups in 14 races. The project paid $50,000 for mailings in six House districts where the fliers said they were ``sponsored'' by local or state affiliates of the National Council of Senior Citizens, a group made up predominantly of retired union members. There was no mention of the '96 Project in the mailings. Scott Wolf, director of the project, said there was no intent to deceive the public on who was behind the mailings, which made GOP candidates look unfavorable on key issues. His group also paid for mailings in eight races ``sponsored'' by the Interfaith Alliance, a group of ministers formed as an alternative to the Christian Coalition, according to the alliance's Greg Lebel. Lebel said ``it never occurred to us'' voters might be misled because the eight mailings said only that the '96 Project ``prepared'' the voter guides. Most of the late money from obscure groups was spent on television. And Federal Communications Commission officials who monitor political advertising say their authority over broadcasters is limited. Charles Kelley, chief of enforcement for the FCC's mass media bureau, said the agency wants to know ``who is the attempted persuader'' in such ads. The question, he said, is ``what legal authority we have, if any, to obligate the true sponsor to step forward.'' The FCC managed to do that in a case in Oregon last fall, when it discovered that a group calling itself Fairness Matters to Oregonians was being financed by the Tobacco Institute. The FCC ruled the group's ads, which opposed an increase in the state cigarette tax, could be aired but the tobacco Institute had to be identified as the sponsor. Various campaign reform proposals in Congress attempt to address the late attacks by saying the name or image of candidates cannot be mentioned in ads in the last 60 days before the general election. But many lawmakers and interest groups say such proposals would put unconstitutional limits on their First Amendment rights. Flaherty, who also heads the Conservative Campaign Fund PAC, said concerns about sponsorship are misplaced. ``Most people when they see an ad don't focus on who put it on, but focus on the message,'' he said. ``If the message has strength and credibility it will persuade people. If it doesn't, it won't.'' In applying for tax-exempt status, which allowed it to avoid paying taxes on investment income, Citizens for Reform told the IRS it had no plans to spend money ``attempting to influence'' elections. But asked whether the groups' advertising had been effective, Flaherty said, ``I think we made a big difference. It was an absolute onslaught in some of these areas by labor and liberal groups and I think we helped stanch the bleeding artery.'' Perhaps the most peculiar of the late ad campaigns was the one run in the name of the Coalition for our Children's Future, which spent money in six House districts, the Louisiana Senate race and 12 Minnesota legislative races, according to Executive Director Barry Bennett. Two directors, Dirk Van Dongen, president of the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors, and Donald L. Fierce, a GOP consultant and former Republican National Committee aide, resigned in protest; two others, Steelman and Gary Andres, had left the board earlier. How the unauthorized advertising campaign was launched and how races were targeted remains murky. Bennett, working in Ohio at the time of the election as chief of staff to then- Rep. Frank A. Cremeans (R), at first said he did not know of any extensive late advertising. Then he acknowledged he had signed the secrecy agreement with the donor and signed blank checks to pay a Houston political consultant who ran the advertising campaign. Bennett said he did so without telling board members. Bennett and the group's fund-raising consultant, John Simms, said the consultant, Denis Calabrese, approached them last summer and helped connect them with some donors, who they declined to identify. Calabrese, who has worked on industry's side to make it harder to win large damage awards in lawsuits, did not return numerous phone calls. Bennett said he had tried without success, after the Post inquiries, to obtain copies of the television scripts from Simms' firm. He said he had no idea what the coalition, organized to address federal issues, was doing in Minnesota statehouse races. ``Am I embarrassed by this?'' Bennett said before he stopped returning phone calls. ``Yes . . . I understand we've created a huge mystery here and that's our fault.'' Mr. WARNER addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Allard). The Senator from Virginia. Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, there are others anxious to speak to this. I see Senator Hatch is here, and I want to, just in reply to my distinguished friend and colleague, say a few words here, and then Senator Hatch, hopefully, will take the floor momentarily. First, I want to make it very clear, I am not going to personalize this debate in any way or use the word ``pandering.'' Nobody is pandering anybody around here. What we are trying to do is how to get as quickly as possible to the point where the U.S. Senate, in several committees, can start looking into this very important issue, hopefully in a fair and objective manner, for the best interests of this institution and our country. I have been in politics--I am almost hesitant to mention how many years--but it is a good 40-plus, and I have never in my lifetime ever seen a situation engulfing this great Nation, casting more doubt in the minds of the voters with regard to how we, those who serve in the Congress and those who serve in the executive branch as the President and Vice President, go about the process of elections, and we have to get at the bottom of this thing as quickly as possible. I have indicated my support for Chairman Fred Thompson as a man I have absolute faith in, who can deal with this matter fairly and objectively, and I have said that for weeks. Never once have I deviated, and I do not think there will ever be a basis that I shall deviate. I said from the beginning that I want to support him as an individual. I want to support the work of his committee. But there is a very careful delineation of responsibilities here among the several committees, and there is clearly, within the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, which I am privileged to chair, the right to superimpose our own judgment on the scope and activities of the other committees of the Senate as it relates to those funds under our jurisdiction. This is in no way any bald-faced effort by myself or other members of the Rules Committee, particularly the distinguished majority leader, who was just on the floor consulting with me minutes ago, no way to try to do other than what I have just said, which is to get the Senate on the track as quickly as possible. We just have to get beyond all of this procedure business and get on with the business. I said that I drew this scope language, drawing from the Watergate. I never said I used it. I have read it now probably 25 times and studied the history of it. I know all the words that are in it. It is interesting. In the Watergate resolution, I ask my friend, if he wants to debate it later on, whether or not you find any authority in there to investigate the Congress. I do not find it in the Watergate resolution, but it is very clearly expressed in this resolution as adopted by the Rules Committee. We in no way tried to obfuscate that issue. This volume is the ``Authority and Rules of Senate Committees'' for the last fiscal year, but it is applicable to this. I would like to just read the question of jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, and it is found on page 155 of that book. It states we have the authority to investigate ``corrupt practices.'' Now that is about as broad as any charter can be--as broad as any charter can be. Then go to section 5: [[Page S2062]] Federal elections generally, including the election of the President, Vice President, and Members of the Congress. There it is. That is the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee. Now go over to the jurisdiction of the Governmental Affairs Committee--and I urge my colleague from Ohio to take a moment or two to look through this book so that he can reply--found on page 101, and in detail on page 102, where it says, the committee is duly authorized, or a subcommittee thereof is authorized to study and investigate. You do not find--at least I haven't thus far in studying it--that precise language as it relates to the Rules Committee concerning jurisdiction over precisely what it is that the U.S. Senate must investigate. If anything, this volume gives clearly the authority to the Rules Committee, and I find less specificity as it relates to the Governmental Affairs Committee. Lastly, as to campaign finance reform, the generic subject, the Rules Committee held a number of hearings last year. We already commenced our series of hearings this year. The distinguished majority leader designated the majority whip, Mr. Nickles, and a group of us, including the Senator from Virginia speaking, and it is our responsibility to try to come up with a grouping of proposals which we have reason to believe will effect the greatest possible reform in this generic subject of campaign finance reform. You bet there are areas which I would like to see changed. In my last campaign, I experienced spending by my opponent--and I do not castigate him in any way at this point in time, nor did I ever--but clearly he had the authority under the Supreme Court decision to spend all the money of his personal funds he wished. He set a record in the history of the U.S. Senate races from the first day this body was constituted through and including today for the greatest amount of money spent for a State per capita in the United States. I think we should enact some legislation that would curtail, in some manner, the limit of an individual to expend millions and millions and millions of dollars. In the case of my race, it is presumably in excess, it was reported, $10 million out of personal spending. Maybe subsequent records will show an additional amount, but that is not here to argue. The point being, the only way that can be done is by a constitutional amendment. I would not want to see this body rest its entire package of reforms that a constitutional amendment is going to be adopted in this area of campaign finance reform. My own personal opinion, it is highly unlikely that such an amendment, even though I would favor certain types of constitutional amendments on campaign reform, that that can be achieved; essentially, the first amendment, which, again, would require a constitutional amendment. There are many areas of campaign finance reform that would be solely predicated on the ability to get a constitutional amendment in order to achieve those goals. I would not want to see this body pass a package of campaign finance reform proposals knowing full well in our hearts that the Federal court is going to strike down in large measure a number of those provisions. So I look forward to continuing to work with the distinguished majority leader and the majority whip in seeing what we can come up with in a package of campaign finance reform proposals which can be adopted by this body and, Mr. President, can withstand the essential scrutiny that will come about by the third branch of Government, namely, the Federal court system. Mr. President, I now yield the floor. Mr. HATCH addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah. Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, it befalls me to make a few comments here today concerning why this investigation is so important. Before I do, I want to compliment the Rules Committee and the people on the Rules Committee who have handled this very difficult subject matter and have done it in a credible and responsible way. I also personally believe that no two people could handle this matter better than the chairman and ranking member of the Governmental Affairs Committee. Senator Thompson has had extensive experience in these matters and Senator Glenn is known as an eminently fair and worthy person here in this body. I have total confidence in both of them that they will be fair, they will be thorough, they will be tough, and they will do what is right. We simply have to get to the bottom of this. The American people are concerned about it. Certainly the media has written extensively about these matters. It is incumbent upon the Senate in its oversight capacity to investigate these matters fairly and thoroughly. As we take up Senate Resolution 39 today, I would like to just take a few minutes to emphasize one major point: That there is a serious number of very, very troubling matters to investigate, simply at the very core of Senators Thompson's and Glenn's inquiry. Merely in recent press reports--if that is all you had--there are very substantial and troubling questions that must be answered regarding whether foreign money and foreign influence has infiltrated the American political process. While numerous other allegations of improper fundraising at the White House and by the White House have surfaced in the media in the past week or so, that is not what I want to talk about today. Even putting aside all of those allegations, the fact is that we have before us very serious allegations that China funneled funds into American elections in an attempt to influence American policy and policymakers. The gravity of these allegations should not and must not be underestimated. Were our national interests sold out? I hope they were not. But this matter must be pursued, and it must be done in a thorough, fair, and honest manner. Later this week the Judiciary Committee will forward a letter to the Attorney General requesting that she apply for an independent counsel. To date, she has refused to do so in this matter. I do not read anything sinister into that--I believe that the Attorney General is an honorable, ethical person of integrity. She has applied for the appointment of no less than four independent counsels since she has been Attorney General. I think she has shown that she is a person who can act. But to date she has refused to act on this matter. Accordingly, Congress must be all the more vigilant. And given the apparent conflict of interest, the public will be relying on Congress to ascertain the facts and get to the bottom of this whole affair. The Governmental Affairs Committee inquiry into fundraising improprieties is, in my opinion, one of the most important congressional investigations in history and involves some of the most serious allegations we have seen to date about our electoral system and our Government. The press and congressional committees have uncovered material facts that prompt numerous questions: First, did a foreign government try to influence our national elections and our domestic and/or foreign policy? No. 2, were millions of dollars of foreign money laundered through various groups to the Democratic National Committee, particularly by three individuals--Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, and John Huang, all of whom have some ties to China. No. 3, were there violations of any of our existing laws, such as the Hatch Act, the Ethics in Government Act, and our current Federal elections laws? The breadth of this particular investigation is immense. We cannot allow ourselves, in an attempt to satisfy the tendentious cause for a broad inquiry into congressional campaigns, to interfere with what is a serious matter. Investigating the 1996 Presidential campaign alone will require a very substantial budget and a substantial amount of time--I presume even more time than the Rules Committee has allowed in this instance, which is only until the end of this year or approximately 8 months. I suspect this will go on beyond that and will have to go on beyond that because of what will be brought out. Let us focus for a moment, however, in terms of the breadth of this investigation, on one individual--Mr. John Huang. He was born in China. He worked for the Lippo Group, a huge conglomerate based in Indonesia with large business interests in China. Lippo is owned and controlled by the Riady family-- Mochtar, James, and Stephen. These are also Chinese natives. [[Page S2063]] By 1994, Huang was the top Lippo executive in the United States. Huang was appointed Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Economic Policy in our Department of Commerce in September 1994. Let me just go down through what John Huang did while employed at Commerce--just a quick glance. He was, according to reports, given a top security clearance without the usual background check, which is all but unheard of; 78-plus visits to the White House; 70-plus calls to Lippo during this period of time; 39 classified top secret briefings dwelling on China and other countries in Asia; 30-plus phone conversations with Mark Middleton or associates; 9 phone messages from or calls to Webster Hubbell; 9 phone messages from the Chinese Embassy officials; 5 months of top secret clearance before joining the Commerce Department. In other words, even before he got in this very important position in Government, he had 5 months of top secret clearance. Why? That is a question that is going to be a big question in this matter. Huang enjoyed a top secret clearance for 5 months of top secret clearance before joining Commerce and nearly a year after leaving Commerce to join the Democratic National Committee. Why? Why would those security clearances go with him outside of Government? Why would he be permitted this kind of access to very sensitive information? These are questions that are very important. Taken with the $780,000 severance pay Huang received from Lippo prior to joining the Commerce Department, these facts naturally raise questions. This next chart involves a meeting at the White House to discuss the Huang transfer from the White House to the Democratic National Committee on September 13, 1995. It was an Oval Office meeting. The President was there. James Riady, the Lippo executive was there. Bruce Lindsey, the Deputy White House Counsel, was there. Joseph Giroir, who is, I believe, the former top partner in the Rose Law Firm, the Lippo joint venture partner/adviser, former Rose Law Firm partner, and, if I recall correctly, was the managing partner of that firm, and none other than John Huang, former Lippo executive, Principal Deputy Assistant, Secretary of Commerce. At this meeting, it was decided that John Huang would move from the Commerce Department to the Democratic National Committee as vice chairman of finance. We do not know what happened at this meeting, although some extremely troubling explanations have been reported by the media. Each one of these people, it seems to me, with the possible exception of the President, will have to be questioned regarding just what went on at that meeting, why Huang left Commerce, and why he was immediately transferred to the Democratic National Committee as the finance vice chairman, why James Riady, was even at this meeting. That is a very important meeting. Let me put another chart up here. This is John Huang at the Democratic National Committee. These are examples of illegal funds raised by Huang. The Wiriadinatas raised $450,000, all of which was returned by the DNC. Pauline Kanchanalak, $250,000. She has since left the country. She is now in Thailand. All funds returned by the DNC. Wogesh Gandhi, $250,000. He testified he had no assets. All funds returned by the DNC, the Democratic National Committee. Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--$250,000. Like Kanchanalak and others, Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--has disappeared. All of these funds were returned by the Democratic National Committee. Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple, $166,750: This comes from a temple where the residents take a vow of poverty; $74,000 of the $166,750 was returned by the DNC. All together, that we know of, John Huang raised $3.4 million, $1.6 million of which has been returned by the Democratic National Committee. These are just a few of some of the problems that I think the Governmental Affairs Committee is going to have to go into. I do not see how they can avoid doing it. To give a picture of some of the people who seem to be involved in this, let me just highlight some of the other individuals involved in this affair. We start with John Huang, former top Lippo executive in the United States, who had a $780,000 severance package when he went to Congress. He had multiple contacts while there with Lippo. The former Democratic National Committee vice chairman raised more than $3.4 million, $1.6 million was returned, and he visited the White House during this period more than 75 times. C.J. Giroir, in the Lippo joint ventures, former Rose Law Firm attorney, met with James Riady, President Clinton, and Lindsey on the Huang move to DNC, and donated $25,000 to the DNC. Mark Middleton, former White House aide from Little Rock, met with James Riady and President Clinton on that occasion, Far East business interests, had unlimited access to the White House after his departure. Charles Trie, Little Rock restauranteur, received a $60,000 loan from Lippo, and he arranged with the former Lippo executive Antonio Pan to get a Hong Kong dinner for Ron Brown. Trie also attempted to give $600,000 to the Clinton legal trust fund, and he visited the White House at least 37 times. Mark Grobmyer, Little Rock attorney, close friend of President Clinton, consultant to Lippo, Far East business interests, met with James Riady, Huang and President Clinton. Soraya Wiriadinata, daughter of Hashin Ning, former Lippo executive, contributed $450,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned, according to the committee. Soraya has gone back to Indonesia. S. Wang Jun, Lippo joint ventures, Chinese arms merchant, senior executive at CITIC and COSTIND, Chinese Government entities, and attended a White House conference. Webster Hubbell, former Associate Attorney General, received a $250,000 consulting fee from Lippo--would not say why he got that. Charles DeQueljoe is the president of Lippo Securities in Jakarta, gave $70,000 to the Democratic National Committee and was appointed to the USTR office. Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai lobbyist who worked with Huang when he was at Lippo, contributed $253,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned. She had frequent contacts with Huang. She visited the White House at least 26 times. And then we come back to John Huang himself. Now, all of these people are going to have to be interviewed. We are going to have to find out what the facts are here. What was going on? Were there illegalities? In that regard, these are key players who have taken the fifth amendment: John Huang, Charlie Trie, Pauline Kanchanalak, Mark Middleton, and Webster Hubbell. I do not see how anybody on the other side of the floor can argue that this set of hearings should not go on, or that this would not take almost every second of any committee's time, and I am only talking about one aspect of it. There are many other aspects to this. The key players who have left the country--and we have not been given reasons why they left the country--are John H.K. Lee--gone. If he is going to be interviewed, it is overseas. Charlie Trie, gone, after taking the fifth. Pauline Kanchanalak, gone--as far as I know, back in Thailand, after having taken the fifth amendment. Arief and Soraya Wiriadinata, gone. Charles DeQueljoe, gone. And James and Mochtar Riady, gone. They left the country. All this is a brief discussion of one aspect of this. There are other aspects of this, but this is a brief glimpse into some of the serious allegations the Government Oversight Committee will have to look into. I emphasize the point with which I opened, just that at the core of this investigation is a vast series of matters which must be looked into. This will be one of the most important congressional investigations in history. I hope it is not obstructed by partisan tactics and politics. I hope with all my heart it is not. I think the American people expect as much. When I found out over the weekend that the FBI--and I did not know this before--had notified seven Members of Congress that they might be receiving laundered funds from a foreign country, mainly China, I was kind of shocked at that, because if they informed those seven Members of Congress, surely the FBI informed the White House. I have been led to believe by the FBI they informed the National Security Council. That being the case, [[Page S2064]] why are all these people having such access to our White House under those circumstances? As chairman of the Judiciary Committee, as chairman of the committee that oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, naturally, I have to be concerned about it. Now, in addition to all of this, there are newer revelations coming out every day. I challenge the Government Affairs Committee to substantiate these allegations, to look into them. Let me just list some of the new revelations about the campaign finance scandals that were first reported after the Governmental Affairs Committee made a request of $6.5 million to investigate the scandal. First, Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes made a telephone call from Air Force One to warn of the wiring of the money to the Democratic National Committee and additional funds to nonprofit organizations. There is some indication they used Air Force One for the purpose of raising funds. I hope that is not the case. Second, questions have been raised concerning whether the White House database was created for official--as opposed to political--purposes, since it contained individuals' Social Security numbers, nicknames, relations to the First Family, pet political issues, and sometimes a photograph. Third, China may have sought to influence U.S. policy through the direction of foreign campaign contributions to the Democratic National Committee and actions taken at the Chinese embassy. It has been disclosed that Huang had contacts with the embassy while he worked at Commerce. Fourth, the NSC, National Security Council, at the White House provided the White House with warnings about Johnny Chung, who has ties to the Chinese Government, who was nonetheless subsequently granted access to the White House on numerous occasions, even though they knew about those ties. Fifth, Huang approached two business associates and offered to pay them $45,000 if they would take $250,000 from him and donate it in their own names to the Democratic National Committee. That is illegal. Sixth, the White House fired four staff members whose salaries were being paid by the Democratic National Committee while they were working at the White House. I don't know whether that has ever been done before, but it should not be done. There are other allegations, but

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AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
(Senate - March 10, 1997)

Text of this article available as: TXT PDF [Pages S2057-S2078] AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES BY THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will now proceed to the consideration of Senate Resolution 39, which the clerk will report. The bill clerk read as follows: A resolution (S. Res. 39) authorizing expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs. The Senate proceeded to consider the bill, which had been reported from the Committee on Rules and Administration, with an amendment to strike all after the resolving clause and insert the following: That (a) Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``Authorization of Additional Funds ``Sec. 24. (a) In General.--A sum equal to not more than $4,350,000, for the period beginning on the date of adoption of this section and ending on December 31, 1997, shall be made available from the contingent fund of the Senate out of the Account for Expenses for Inquiries and Investigations for payment of salaries and other expenses of the Committee on Governmental Affairs under this resolution, of which amount not to exceed $375,000 may be expended for the procurement of the services of individual consultants, or organizations thereof (as authorized by section 202(i) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946, as amended). The expenditures by the Committee on Governmental Affairs authorized by this section supplement those authorized in section 13 and may be expended solely for the purpose stated in this section. ``(b) Purpose of Additional Funds.--The additional funds authorized by this section are for the sole purpose of conducting an investigation of illegal activities in connection with 1996 Federal election campaigns. ``(c) Referral To Select Committee on Ethics.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall refer any evidence of illegal activities involving any Member of the Senate revealed pursuant to the investigation authorized by subsection (b) to the Select Committee on Ethics. ``(d) Final Report.--The Committee on Governmental Affairs shall submit a final public report to the Senate no later than January 31, 1998, of the results of the investigation, study, and hearings conducted by the Committee pursuant to this section.''. (b) Section 16(b) of Senate Resolution 54, agreed to February 13, 1997, is amended by-- (1) striking ``$1,339,109'' and inserting $1,789,109''; and (2) striking ``$200,000'' and inserting $300,000''. (c) The Committee on Rules and Administration shall continue to conduct hearings on campaign reform. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, on Thursday of last week, the Rules Committee reported out an amendment to Senate Resolution 39, and it is my understanding that the present business is that pending amendment, which does amend, if decided by the Senate, rule 39. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct. Mr. WARNER. Madam President, I thank the Chair. We will now proceed to discuss the amendment as passed by the Rules Committee on Thursday of last week, the 6th of March. Madam President, the responsibility of the Rules Committee is to entertain, from all committees of the U.S. Senate, their requests for funding. We have, in Senate Resolution 54, which has been adopted by the Senate, the budgets for all of the committees of the Senate for their fiscal year, which runs from March 1 through February 28. The Committee on Governmental Affairs, in Senate Resolution 39, submitted their request for funding. In the initial consideration of Senate Resolution 39 by the Rules Committee, the committee determined that they would grant a portion of the funding request, and that is reflected in Senate Resolution 54. The Governmental Affairs Committee still had, under Senate Resolution 39, the balance of their request, which was considered on the 6th of March by the Rules Committee. After a full debate--and certainly in the judgment of the chairman, myself, and actively participated in by Senators on both sides, as we had nearly 100 percent attendance at the committee hearing on both sides--the committee voted to provide $4.35 million for the Committee on Governmental affairs as a supplemental to the request as reported in Senate Resolution 54. Now, how did we arrive at that figure? You can look at the request of the distinguished Senator from Ohio--indeed, a request that, by and large, was supported by most on that side of the aisle--that there be a definitive date for cutoff, and that date by the senior Senator from Ohio was December 31 of this calendar year, 1997. If I took that and viewed it as a reduced period of time; namely, that the Governmental Affairs Committee could begin its work using the supplemental funds, March 15, from a practical standpoint, through December 31, 1997, it would appear to this Senator that we would have, by and large, given that committee the funding profile in dollars in proportion to the timing from which those funds may be expended. The next question was the scope. I worked with other colleagues, primarily those on the Rules Committee, and I devised a formula, in consultation with the distinguished majority leader and others, whereby looking at the original Watergate resolution, we took from that the concept that we would allow the Governmental Affairs Committee to expend the supplemental budget for such investigations that they felt were illegal in connection with the 1996 Presidential election and congressional elections--not delineating between the House and Senate, but simply all Federal elections in calendar year 1996. So it seems to me that the Rules Committee, in a fair manner, recognized the dollars that we needed, gave the Governmental Affairs Committee a scope of the investigation and illegal--illegal is a very broad scope. It goes beyond. And I will at a later time today put into the Record the definitions of illegal. But it goes beyond just criminal assertions of allegations of criminal violations. It goes beyond that. So it is a broad scope. Then the Rules Committee took from the proposal, which the senior Senator from Ohio will address momentarily, a termination date of December 31, 1997. In addition to the Rules Committee, I think very importantly recognizing the essential need for the Senate of the United States to actively participate in determining what happened, certainly in 1996 in connection with the ever-increasing number of allegations--most [[Page S2058]] of them regrettably could border on or do, in fact, constitute illegal--it was essential that the other committees of the Senate take on their responsibilities, which is traditional under the allocation in the Senate of the responsibilities among the several committees. Therefore, we charged the Rules Committee, of which I am privileged to be the chairman, the duty to continue its hearings on campaign finance reform, gave it a sum of $450,000 to be used by that committee in enlarging and broadening the scope of their operations in the overall context of campaign reform and campaign financing. So the Rules Committee will take on an added role. In addition, if there is that development by the Governmental Affairs Committee or the Rules Committee of facts which should be examined by the Ethics Committee of the U.S. Senate as those facts relate to a Member of this body, it will be incumbent upon the Ethics Committee to review any allegations we feel merit the judgment of that committee as it relates to an individual in the U.S. Senate. So, Madam President, I feel that the Rules Committee unanimously, regrettably--bipartisan, yet unanimous among the Republicans--has addressed this tough issue, and we are here today for the purpose of amending Senate Resolution 39 such that they can have the additional funds and under a very carefully crafted and proscribed scope of activities within a time limit of December 31, 1997. Madam President, I yield the floor so that my distinguished colleague from Ohio can present his views. Mr. GLENN addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Ohio. Mr. GLENN. Madam President, we are now into the second week in March. The Senate has been operating for approximately 2 months. I don't know that we have had much in the way of accomplishment during that time period. Certainly, there are national problems that should be addressed. For example, we ought to be working on balancing the budget instead of just trying to pass amendments, which we tried to do, and it failed. We also have a series of problems with our health care system. Managed care may be saving money, but there is increasing evidence that it is happening at the expense of lower quality of health care. So, for uninsured Americans, that continues to be a major problem. As far as health care goes, we are going to have a debate, I guess, about partial-birth abortion. In other areas, the stock market has gone through the roof. Unemployment is at a 25-year low. But there is concern about the future, and about Social Security and Medicare. But there are no serious proposals by the Republican majority to deal with these issues. Well, today we have an opportunity. We have an opportunity to have the possibility of beginning a serious discussion about a serious issue: the campaign finance system used by both political parties in the United States. The American people are disgusted by what they see in campaign finance. And they should be. Along with the steady drumbeat of antigovernment ideologues, it is a major factor in America's loss of faith in our institutions of government. It is that serious. All you have to do is look at the polling data and such things as decreased participation in voting. If this trend continues, if America goes downhill because of the lack of confidence in our Federal Government, I say that we face a crisis that could literally threaten the foundation of democracy in the United States. There is a remedy to avert this crisis, as I see it, and to begin the restoration of public support for this system of government. The remedy requires that we reform the campaign finance system. It is a wonderful place to start because it certainly needs reforming. Will this get a serious examination by Congress, or will we get sidetracked by a partisan political circus? The jury is definitely out on that at this time. We have before us a resolution to fund a Senate investigation which, if the scope were made broader than it currently is, has enormous potential as a tool to stimulate public pressure on Congress to enact meaningful campaign finance reform, honest campaign finance reform. Recent revelations about fundraising involving 1996 Federal races are disturbing. They involve both parties in both congressional and Presidential campaigns. The truth is that the current fundraising system, both Presidential and congressional, is scandalous. Having said that, in my opinion, most Members of Congress are honest elected officials, both over in the House and here in the Senate. They are honest elected officials trying to do a good job, albeit from different political philosophies. But that is our system. But the general public perception that money gets its way in determining policy is, indeed, true for too many. There is a public perception that access follows money, and anybody who has been around Capitol Hill very long knows that sometimes it does. Access can alter the balance of arguments weighed by a Member and his or her staff when deciding a course of action, be it a vote on the floor or in committee, a colloquy on the Senate floor, introduction or cosponsorship of a piece of legislation, floor speech, insertion of language in a committee report, or a communication with an executive branch agency requesting an action, or the withholding of an action. But even when there is no connection whatsoever between a donation by a person to a politician and the latter's specific action as a legislator favoring that person, the perception of a payoff, even the possibility of a perception of a payoff, is corrosive to public trust in our Government. We must dispel this growing perception that Congress or parts of Congress are for sale if we are to reverse electoral apathy and restore faith in our Government. Gift bans have not done it. Honoraria bans have not done it. Only deep changes in the campaign finance system will do the job, and it will not be easy. The question is what should be the relationship of the Governmental Affairs Committee investigation to the drive for effective bipartisan campaign finance reform? The resolution before us, S. 39, as amended by the Rules Committee, states that the supplemental funds to be given to the Governmental Affairs Committee for this investigation are for the sole purpose of an investigation into illegal activities in the 1996 Federal election campaign. There are two things wrong with this statement of scope for the investigation. The first thing is that it is a bald-faced attempt by the Republican majority of the Rules Committee to undo a unanimous bipartisan agreement among the members of the Governmental Affairs Committee to have a broad investigation that would examine improper as well as illegal activities along with previous campaigns. Contrary to the claims of the Rules Committee chairman that his language tracks the Watergate resolution, the fact is that the Watergate resolution called for an investigation of improper and unethical activities as well as illegal ones. I am looking at a copy of the Watergate resolution that was passed in the Senate back in 1973. It was submitted by Senator Ervin, Sam Ervin and Mike Mansfield. In part 15 on page 8, it says they are ``to look into any other activities, circumstances, materials or transactions having a tendency to prove or disprove that persons, acting either individually or in combination with others, engaged in any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972, or any campaign, canvas, or activity related to such election.'' That is the language of one of the parts of what the Watergate Committee was to look into--any illegal, improper, or unethical activities in connection with the Presidential election of 1972. The narrowing of the scope of the Governmental Affairs investigation by the Rules Committee is nothing more than a blatant pander to those elements in the Republican Party that do not wish to reform the campaign finance system and who are quite willing to scuttle the Governmental Affairs investigation if necessary to avoid creating public pressure to pass a decent bill. How does narrowing the scope to illegal activities avoid this problem for the Republicans? The first thing to understand is that the problem with the campaign finance system is not just what politicians do that is illegal. It is what politicians do that is legal that is [[Page S2059]] an equal scandal, and it happens every single day on Capitol Hill and with both political parties. Let me give you an example. Let us talk about soft money. That is the best example. One of the most pernicious influences in politics these days is soft money. Let me give you an example of that. Let us say Senator X, whoever it might be, solicits $50,000 or $500,000 in soft money from a potential donor to his or her party, ostensibly for party- building purposes, get-out-the-vote drives or the like. But the party can then turn around and use the money on an issue ad during the Senator's reelection campaign that helps him or her and hurts the opponent. According to the Department of Justice, Senator X can even do the solicitation for that $500,000 from his or her office because the solicitation is not for his or her campaign specifically but, rather, for the Senator's party. This practice should be illegal, but it is not. Suppose Senator X wants a direct contribution to his or her campaign from a potential donor, direct to his personal campaign. In that case, Federal election law prohibits the donor from contributing more than $1,000 per person, and it must be in the donor's own name. But that same donor can go out and collect checks of $1,000 for Senator X from everyone he knows, bundle them together, and send them to the Senator's campaign. Let us say Senator X calls from the Senator's office for those donations. If Senator X calls, he is committing an illegal act. But if Senator X calls from outside, it is OK. Suppose Senator X is so grateful, wherever the call came from, for the donor's willingness to help that the next time the donor is in town and wants to talk to Senator X about a legislative matter he has an interest in, Senator X not only lets him into his office but he welcomes him and listens to his pitch. And suppose that Senator X is sufficiently concerned about maintaining the donor's political help that the Senator does what the donor wants on the issue and there was no discussion linking the donation to the donor's request or to the Senator's action. In that case, there has been no bribe. But it is certainly the case that Senator X made his decision on the issue as a result of the donor having had access to the Senator, access that was based at least in part on the donation the Senator was given. Now, suppose Senator X made the original call to the donor from the Senator's office phone instead of from an outside phone. That would be a violation of law. You cannot do that. Let me pose the question. Which is the worst ethical lapse, making the phone call from a legally prohibited place or letting the money influence the Senator's vote? I submit that the answer is not even close. Senator X's constituents and the people generally will have been ill served if he lets money influence his decision, and that overshadows the question of whether the phone he used was a private phone or a Government phone. What is the point of this fictitious example? Well, the resolution before us, which limits the scope of the investigation only to illegal activities, would allow an investigation of whether Senator X committed an illegal act by using a Government phone for the direct solicitation if there was an allegation that he had done so but would allow no investigation of the contribution, and if a soft money contribution was involved, whether Senator X's party had spent that money on certain ads helpful to the Senator's campaign, a legal practice but one that should be illegal. It is not just the independent expenditures by the major parties that is the problem. There are also the independent expenditures by outside private groups including tax-exempt organizations that should be investigated for possible collusion with party organizations. The Washington Post had an article yesterday concerning nonprofits. To quote them: ``Mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end of the 1996 election,'' that were targeted mainly against Democratic candidates. No one apparently knows who supports them. One group, the Coalition for Our Children's Future, spent $700,000 on ads, mailings, phone banks, to help Republican candidates from Louisiana to California. Another group, Citizens for Reform, spent $2 million on ads, including a mailing labeling a Democratic candidate for Congress as sexist and anticonsumer. And this organization is tax exempt. They are not supposed to deal in political matters. In the case of tax-exempt organizations, collusion with a political party would be illegal but would not involve criminal penalties. In the case of a so-called 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, which is prohibited from engaging in political activity, there is the question of whether the placing of certain issue ads should be considered political activity under certain circumstances. Will this be investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee under the funding resolutions' current scope statement? That will depend on how the word ``illegal'' is interpreted. I must say, at several points along the way we have had different interpretations of that word. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the Washington Post article be printed in the Record at the end of my remarks. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. (See exhibit 1.) Mr. GLENN. That is only the beginning of the problems with this resolution. It also requires that if any evidence of illegality is discovered in the 1996 campaign activities of a Member of Congress by a Member of Congress, then such evidence is to be referred to the Ethics Committee. Does that mean the committee's investigation is to be terminated at that point? And, if the evidence comes to the attention of the committee before an investigation has even been initiated, does that mean the committee is to defer to the Ethics Committee for the investigation of the Member? Does referral to the Ethics Committee mean that Governmental Affairs will defer to the Ethics Committee on any possible criminal referral to the Department of Justice? We need answers to all of those things, obviously. What if we are into an investigation and there is something that pops up that looks as though it might be an ethical matter and might be illegal, which this committee would be permitted to deal with? Since there is this special provision with regard to ethics in the Senate, in referring it to the Ethics Committee, do we have to stop any investigation before anything comes out beyond a point where there has been just an allegation of illegality? So, let me return to the question of the meaning of the word ``illegal'' in the resolution. What is the standard to be used by the Governmental Affairs Committee to determine that an activity involves an illegality and is therefore subject to an investigation? Is illegality meant to be equivalent to criminality? Or is it broader and includes activities that are in violation of law but subject to only civil penalties or no penalties at all? The answer to this question will determine whether the activities of tax-exempt organizations engaged in political activity will be investigated. I believe the questions I am raising need to be answered during this debate so Members will know precisely what they are voting on when the time comes. These questions also need to be answered in order to examine whether the 54 subpoenas issued thus far by the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee are within the new scope of the investigation. Let me turn to some other deficiencies in the resolution. These are also deficiencies of omission. My remarks stem once again from my belief that a balanced investigation of fundraising by both parties, highlighting legal transgressions as well as their legal but ethically dubious fundraising activities, could be effective in pointing the way toward real reform. Conversely, an unbalanced, partisan investigation suggesting that the problems lie solely or even mainly with one party would be destructive to forging a consensus and would lead to political games, possibly including an attempt to pass reform legislation crafted not so much to fix the system as to give one party a fundraising advantage over the other. As the ranking Democrat on Governmental Affairs, I have urged the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee to follow standard Senate practices and enter into a written agreement that the investigation will be [[Page S2060]] carried out in a bipartisan manner with an agreed-upon agenda and with fairness. That involves ensuring that both the majority and minority: have contemporaneous access to all documentary evidence received by the committee; have the right to be given adequate advance notice of, to be present at, and to participate equally in all depositions and investigatory interviews; have equal opportunity to obtain and present relevant evidence on the subjects of the committee's inquiry; and, are treated equally and without discrimination in the discharge of the committee's administrative responsibilities. I regret to say that no agreement on these matters has been reached thus far. This has most egregiously shown up in the way subpoenas have been handled thus far. I am hopeful that passage of a funding resolution for the committee's investigation will be the occasion to put this investigation back on a bipartisan track. I believe that failure to do so will redound to the credit of no one and mark the first major stain on this committee's record of bipartisan cooperation during my 22-year tenure on it. Finally, I must comment on that part of the resolution that provides for authorization of some $450,000 in additional funds for the Rules Committee to examine those aspects of campaign fundraising that are outside the scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation under the terms of this resolution as currently written. It is certainly true that the Rules Committee has legislative jurisdiction over campaign finance reform and, therefore, can look into soft money and independent expenditures, among other things, as policy matters. But the Rules Committee is not basically an investigative committee. I could not recall the last time it ever issued a subpoena. We made some inquiry into this and found that no subpoenas have been issued by the committee since at least 1980. We do not know whether any were before that time or not. They may do hearings, but that is not the same as an investigation as conceived under this resolution. Let us not deceive the public about this. Recent press reports clearly indicated that at least two members of the Rules Committee, Republican members of the Rules Committee, would not vote for the funding resolution for the investigation that originally came out of the Governmental Affairs Committee because the scope of the investigation would have included legal as well as illegal congressional fundraising practices. Those Members were concerned that the result of such an investigation might be to raise public pressure on Congress to pass campaign finance reform legislation. The fact is, there is little support for campaign reform among my Republican colleagues. The McCain-Feingold bill has only one other Republican cosponsor, and that is Senator Thompson, to his credit. So we know what game is being played with the Rules Committee rewrite of the previously-agreed-to scope of the Governmental Affairs Committee's investigation. It is a game in which legal but improper congressional fundraising is kept off the table while a parade of Presidential fundraisers for the Democratic Party and the Clinton-Gore campaign are brought before the cameras at televised hearings, to give the impression that all the problems are with the Democratic Party and there is no need to change the laws. I do not believe it will work. I do not believe the American people are that naive. I believe they will see through such a strategy were it to unfold. Chairman Thompson has said congressional fundraising should be on the table. I agree with him. That is one of the reasons I was disappointed when none of his first 65 subpoenas were directed toward congressional fundraising. I and my Democratic colleagues will attempt to broaden the scope to include legal activities that are improper, which is where many of the major campaign finance problems are, and which should be thoroughly investigated by the Governmental Affairs Committee. So, I hope--in fact I invite Chairman Thompson to join me in cosponsoring an amendment I plan to offer to broaden the scope, and I invite him to join me in voting against tabling any such amendment. I also invite all Members of the Senate, Democratic and Republican, who truly want to change our system to join us. Let us look at it from your children's perspective of 20 years from now. Whichever party is in the majority--and that may have changed in that time, maybe before that--but look at your children as adults out there, taking part in the political system at that time. Whichever party is in the majority at that time, I am sure we can all hope that political fundraising will not be the mess that it is today. One way to gain that end is to assure that investigations are carried out now without fear or favor and spotlighting the dark corners, whether illegal or legal, but in either event, wrong, improper, and unethical. The resolution before us does not take us in that direction, and that is why I also urge Senator Thompson, even if we fail to pass such an amendment, to seek every opportunity at our committee level to examine and thoroughly investigate any alleged illegal fundraising activities by Members of Congress, in the House or Senate. That will at least be a start, and I pledge my full support to such efforts. So I await with interest his proposed agenda and subpoenas in this area. At the appropriate time today, before we finish this debate, I will have an amendment to submit. I would like to lay it down this evening. I doubt all the people on either side of the aisle who wish to speak on the amendment will return before we go out of session, but I would like to have time later on to submit the amendment before we go out of session this evening. I yield the floor. Exhibit 1 [From the Washington Post, Mar. 9, 1997] For Their Targets, Mystery Groups' Ads Hit Like Attacks From Nowhere (By Charles R. Babcock and Ruth Marcus) Campaign watchdog groups and government regulators are concerned about the emergence of mysterious organizations that funded a flurry of attack ads at the end the 1996 election and could play an even larger role in coming campaigns. The groups, with bland names such as Citizens for Reform and the Republic Education Fund, spent millions of dollars on television advertising, mailings and telephone banks in the closing weeks of the campaign, mostly on the side of the Republicans. None of their activities was reported to the Federal Election Commission (FEC). ``The public has no idea who these people are or where they're coming from or who funds them,'' said Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, which monitors political ethics. ``They are trying to influence the political process and the public is in the dark.'' For example, a group called the Coalition for Our Children's Future spent more than $700,000 on television and radio ads, mailings, and telephone banks to bolster GOP candidates in key races from Louisiana to California. The last-minute onslaught, financed in part by a donor who demanded a written confidentiality agreement, was conducted without the knowledge or approval of the group's directors. Two of the directors resigned in protest after The Washington Post informed them of the late ads, saying they never approved the expenditures. They said they still do not know exactly what was done or the source of funding. Former director Deborah Steelman, a GOP lobbyist, said she thought the group had been inactive since spending more than $4 million on advertising backing the GOP's legislative agenda in 1995. ``Clearly, the organization created another mission of which we were not a part,'' she said. Like the more identifiable AFL-CIO and environmental groups that also ran advertising, leaders of organizations such as the coalition say their television commercials were not political because they did not explicitly endorse a candidate. Since they were engaging in ``issue advocacy,'' they said, they were not required to report to the FEC the source of their funds or how much they spent. One group created last spring and calling itself Citizens for Reform spent $2 million in the closing days, according to its president, conservative activist Peter Flaherty. In California, it sent mailings into the district of Democratic Rep. George Brown accusing him of being sexist and anti- consumer. The Consumer Federation of America, cited as the source in one flier although it endorsed Brown, denounced the mailing as ``extremely misleading and grossly unfair.'' In Montana, the group bought television time calling Democratic congressional candidate Bill Yellowtail a convicted criminal who ``preaches family values . . . but took a swing at his wife.'' Another new group called Citizens for the Republic Educaiton Fund obtained at least $1 million in late ads, according to director Lyn Nofziger, longtime political aide to Ronald Reagan. In Texas, it bought television ads against Democratic congressional candidate Nick Lampson that said he had been [[Page S2061]] accused of Medicare fraud. In Erie, Pa., another television ad denounced ``big labor bosses'' for trying to buy ``a Congress they can control.'' Some ads were so inflammatory that the Republican candidates they were designed to help denounced them. And some stations would not run some ads or pulled them off the air after complaints by Democratic candidates. Leaders of the groups targeting Democrats say they operated independently and they and GOP officials said the groups were not fronts for the party. Nofziger called it, ``outrageous'' that advocacy groups like his are allowed to ``go and run political ads and call them education.'' He added, ``We wouldn't have had to do it if it had not been for labor'' and its attacks on GOP candidates. The Flaherty and Nofziger groups were run by a Washington- based firm, Triad Management, that advertises itself as sort of an underground version of the Republican Party. A Triad marketing video includes testimonials from Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.) and several House members aimed at recruiting donors for what the video labels a ``privatized Republican national coalition.'' Triad's Carolyn Malenick, a former fund-raiser for Oliver L. North, says on the video that labor has always been the ``rapid fire'' of the Democratic Party. ``If the Republican Party needs that quote `rapid fire' where're we going to find it?'' she said. ``If we need to move or have $100,000 put into a congressional race tomorrow where're we going to find it?'' Malenick declined to be interviewed. Mark Braden, Triad's attorney, said the group was not a front for the GOP or a particular special interest, like the tobacco industry. Malenick's donors are mostly individuals from ``ideologically driven networks,'' he said. While most of the late negative issue ads with mysterious sponsors targeted Democratic races, a labor-funded group, the '96 Project, paid for voter guides mailed in the name of other groups in 14 races. The project paid $50,000 for mailings in six House districts where the fliers said they were ``sponsored'' by local or state affiliates of the National Council of Senior Citizens, a group made up predominantly of retired union members. There was no mention of the '96 Project in the mailings. Scott Wolf, director of the project, said there was no intent to deceive the public on who was behind the mailings, which made GOP candidates look unfavorable on key issues. His group also paid for mailings in eight races ``sponsored'' by the Interfaith Alliance, a group of ministers formed as an alternative to the Christian Coalition, according to the alliance's Greg Lebel. Lebel said ``it never occurred to us'' voters might be misled because the eight mailings said only that the '96 Project ``prepared'' the voter guides. Most of the late money from obscure groups was spent on television. And Federal Communications Commission officials who monitor political advertising say their authority over broadcasters is limited. Charles Kelley, chief of enforcement for the FCC's mass media bureau, said the agency wants to know ``who is the attempted persuader'' in such ads. The question, he said, is ``what legal authority we have, if any, to obligate the true sponsor to step forward.'' The FCC managed to do that in a case in Oregon last fall, when it discovered that a group calling itself Fairness Matters to Oregonians was being financed by the Tobacco Institute. The FCC ruled the group's ads, which opposed an increase in the state cigarette tax, could be aired but the tobacco Institute had to be identified as the sponsor. Various campaign reform proposals in Congress attempt to address the late attacks by saying the name or image of candidates cannot be mentioned in ads in the last 60 days before the general election. But many lawmakers and interest groups say such proposals would put unconstitutional limits on their First Amendment rights. Flaherty, who also heads the Conservative Campaign Fund PAC, said concerns about sponsorship are misplaced. ``Most people when they see an ad don't focus on who put it on, but focus on the message,'' he said. ``If the message has strength and credibility it will persuade people. If it doesn't, it won't.'' In applying for tax-exempt status, which allowed it to avoid paying taxes on investment income, Citizens for Reform told the IRS it had no plans to spend money ``attempting to influence'' elections. But asked whether the groups' advertising had been effective, Flaherty said, ``I think we made a big difference. It was an absolute onslaught in some of these areas by labor and liberal groups and I think we helped stanch the bleeding artery.'' Perhaps the most peculiar of the late ad campaigns was the one run in the name of the Coalition for our Children's Future, which spent money in six House districts, the Louisiana Senate race and 12 Minnesota legislative races, according to Executive Director Barry Bennett. Two directors, Dirk Van Dongen, president of the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors, and Donald L. Fierce, a GOP consultant and former Republican National Committee aide, resigned in protest; two others, Steelman and Gary Andres, had left the board earlier. How the unauthorized advertising campaign was launched and how races were targeted remains murky. Bennett, working in Ohio at the time of the election as chief of staff to then- Rep. Frank A. Cremeans (R), at first said he did not know of any extensive late advertising. Then he acknowledged he had signed the secrecy agreement with the donor and signed blank checks to pay a Houston political consultant who ran the advertising campaign. Bennett said he did so without telling board members. Bennett and the group's fund-raising consultant, John Simms, said the consultant, Denis Calabrese, approached them last summer and helped connect them with some donors, who they declined to identify. Calabrese, who has worked on industry's side to make it harder to win large damage awards in lawsuits, did not return numerous phone calls. Bennett said he had tried without success, after the Post inquiries, to obtain copies of the television scripts from Simms' firm. He said he had no idea what the coalition, organized to address federal issues, was doing in Minnesota statehouse races. ``Am I embarrassed by this?'' Bennett said before he stopped returning phone calls. ``Yes . . . I understand we've created a huge mystery here and that's our fault.'' Mr. WARNER addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Allard). The Senator from Virginia. Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, there are others anxious to speak to this. I see Senator Hatch is here, and I want to, just in reply to my distinguished friend and colleague, say a few words here, and then Senator Hatch, hopefully, will take the floor momentarily. First, I want to make it very clear, I am not going to personalize this debate in any way or use the word ``pandering.'' Nobody is pandering anybody around here. What we are trying to do is how to get as quickly as possible to the point where the U.S. Senate, in several committees, can start looking into this very important issue, hopefully in a fair and objective manner, for the best interests of this institution and our country. I have been in politics--I am almost hesitant to mention how many years--but it is a good 40-plus, and I have never in my lifetime ever seen a situation engulfing this great Nation, casting more doubt in the minds of the voters with regard to how we, those who serve in the Congress and those who serve in the executive branch as the President and Vice President, go about the process of elections, and we have to get at the bottom of this thing as quickly as possible. I have indicated my support for Chairman Fred Thompson as a man I have absolute faith in, who can deal with this matter fairly and objectively, and I have said that for weeks. Never once have I deviated, and I do not think there will ever be a basis that I shall deviate. I said from the beginning that I want to support him as an individual. I want to support the work of his committee. But there is a very careful delineation of responsibilities here among the several committees, and there is clearly, within the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, which I am privileged to chair, the right to superimpose our own judgment on the scope and activities of the other committees of the Senate as it relates to those funds under our jurisdiction. This is in no way any bald-faced effort by myself or other members of the Rules Committee, particularly the distinguished majority leader, who was just on the floor consulting with me minutes ago, no way to try to do other than what I have just said, which is to get the Senate on the track as quickly as possible. We just have to get beyond all of this procedure business and get on with the business. I said that I drew this scope language, drawing from the Watergate. I never said I used it. I have read it now probably 25 times and studied the history of it. I know all the words that are in it. It is interesting. In the Watergate resolution, I ask my friend, if he wants to debate it later on, whether or not you find any authority in there to investigate the Congress. I do not find it in the Watergate resolution, but it is very clearly expressed in this resolution as adopted by the Rules Committee. We in no way tried to obfuscate that issue. This volume is the ``Authority and Rules of Senate Committees'' for the last fiscal year, but it is applicable to this. I would like to just read the question of jurisdiction of the Rules Committee, and it is found on page 155 of that book. It states we have the authority to investigate ``corrupt practices.'' Now that is about as broad as any charter can be--as broad as any charter can be. Then go to section 5: [[Page S2062]] Federal elections generally, including the election of the President, Vice President, and Members of the Congress. There it is. That is the jurisdiction of the Rules Committee. Now go over to the jurisdiction of the Governmental Affairs Committee--and I urge my colleague from Ohio to take a moment or two to look through this book so that he can reply--found on page 101, and in detail on page 102, where it says, the committee is duly authorized, or a subcommittee thereof is authorized to study and investigate. You do not find--at least I haven't thus far in studying it--that precise language as it relates to the Rules Committee concerning jurisdiction over precisely what it is that the U.S. Senate must investigate. If anything, this volume gives clearly the authority to the Rules Committee, and I find less specificity as it relates to the Governmental Affairs Committee. Lastly, as to campaign finance reform, the generic subject, the Rules Committee held a number of hearings last year. We already commenced our series of hearings this year. The distinguished majority leader designated the majority whip, Mr. Nickles, and a group of us, including the Senator from Virginia speaking, and it is our responsibility to try to come up with a grouping of proposals which we have reason to believe will effect the greatest possible reform in this generic subject of campaign finance reform. You bet there are areas which I would like to see changed. In my last campaign, I experienced spending by my opponent--and I do not castigate him in any way at this point in time, nor did I ever--but clearly he had the authority under the Supreme Court decision to spend all the money of his personal funds he wished. He set a record in the history of the U.S. Senate races from the first day this body was constituted through and including today for the greatest amount of money spent for a State per capita in the United States. I think we should enact some legislation that would curtail, in some manner, the limit of an individual to expend millions and millions and millions of dollars. In the case of my race, it is presumably in excess, it was reported, $10 million out of personal spending. Maybe subsequent records will show an additional amount, but that is not here to argue. The point being, the only way that can be done is by a constitutional amendment. I would not want to see this body rest its entire package of reforms that a constitutional amendment is going to be adopted in this area of campaign finance reform. My own personal opinion, it is highly unlikely that such an amendment, even though I would favor certain types of constitutional amendments on campaign reform, that that can be achieved; essentially, the first amendment, which, again, would require a constitutional amendment. There are many areas of campaign finance reform that would be solely predicated on the ability to get a constitutional amendment in order to achieve those goals. I would not want to see this body pass a package of campaign finance reform proposals knowing full well in our hearts that the Federal court is going to strike down in large measure a number of those provisions. So I look forward to continuing to work with the distinguished majority leader and the majority whip in seeing what we can come up with in a package of campaign finance reform proposals which can be adopted by this body and, Mr. President, can withstand the essential scrutiny that will come about by the third branch of Government, namely, the Federal court system. Mr. President, I now yield the floor. Mr. HATCH addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah. Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, it befalls me to make a few comments here today concerning why this investigation is so important. Before I do, I want to compliment the Rules Committee and the people on the Rules Committee who have handled this very difficult subject matter and have done it in a credible and responsible way. I also personally believe that no two people could handle this matter better than the chairman and ranking member of the Governmental Affairs Committee. Senator Thompson has had extensive experience in these matters and Senator Glenn is known as an eminently fair and worthy person here in this body. I have total confidence in both of them that they will be fair, they will be thorough, they will be tough, and they will do what is right. We simply have to get to the bottom of this. The American people are concerned about it. Certainly the media has written extensively about these matters. It is incumbent upon the Senate in its oversight capacity to investigate these matters fairly and thoroughly. As we take up Senate Resolution 39 today, I would like to just take a few minutes to emphasize one major point: That there is a serious number of very, very troubling matters to investigate, simply at the very core of Senators Thompson's and Glenn's inquiry. Merely in recent press reports--if that is all you had--there are very substantial and troubling questions that must be answered regarding whether foreign money and foreign influence has infiltrated the American political process. While numerous other allegations of improper fundraising at the White House and by the White House have surfaced in the media in the past week or so, that is not what I want to talk about today. Even putting aside all of those allegations, the fact is that we have before us very serious allegations that China funneled funds into American elections in an attempt to influence American policy and policymakers. The gravity of these allegations should not and must not be underestimated. Were our national interests sold out? I hope they were not. But this matter must be pursued, and it must be done in a thorough, fair, and honest manner. Later this week the Judiciary Committee will forward a letter to the Attorney General requesting that she apply for an independent counsel. To date, she has refused to do so in this matter. I do not read anything sinister into that--I believe that the Attorney General is an honorable, ethical person of integrity. She has applied for the appointment of no less than four independent counsels since she has been Attorney General. I think she has shown that she is a person who can act. But to date she has refused to act on this matter. Accordingly, Congress must be all the more vigilant. And given the apparent conflict of interest, the public will be relying on Congress to ascertain the facts and get to the bottom of this whole affair. The Governmental Affairs Committee inquiry into fundraising improprieties is, in my opinion, one of the most important congressional investigations in history and involves some of the most serious allegations we have seen to date about our electoral system and our Government. The press and congressional committees have uncovered material facts that prompt numerous questions: First, did a foreign government try to influence our national elections and our domestic and/or foreign policy? No. 2, were millions of dollars of foreign money laundered through various groups to the Democratic National Committee, particularly by three individuals--Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, and John Huang, all of whom have some ties to China. No. 3, were there violations of any of our existing laws, such as the Hatch Act, the Ethics in Government Act, and our current Federal elections laws? The breadth of this particular investigation is immense. We cannot allow ourselves, in an attempt to satisfy the tendentious cause for a broad inquiry into congressional campaigns, to interfere with what is a serious matter. Investigating the 1996 Presidential campaign alone will require a very substantial budget and a substantial amount of time--I presume even more time than the Rules Committee has allowed in this instance, which is only until the end of this year or approximately 8 months. I suspect this will go on beyond that and will have to go on beyond that because of what will be brought out. Let us focus for a moment, however, in terms of the breadth of this investigation, on one individual--Mr. John Huang. He was born in China. He worked for the Lippo Group, a huge conglomerate based in Indonesia with large business interests in China. Lippo is owned and controlled by the Riady family-- Mochtar, James, and Stephen. These are also Chinese natives. [[Page S2063]] By 1994, Huang was the top Lippo executive in the United States. Huang was appointed Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Economic Policy in our Department of Commerce in September 1994. Let me just go down through what John Huang did while employed at Commerce--just a quick glance. He was, according to reports, given a top security clearance without the usual background check, which is all but unheard of; 78-plus visits to the White House; 70-plus calls to Lippo during this period of time; 39 classified top secret briefings dwelling on China and other countries in Asia; 30-plus phone conversations with Mark Middleton or associates; 9 phone messages from or calls to Webster Hubbell; 9 phone messages from the Chinese Embassy officials; 5 months of top secret clearance before joining the Commerce Department. In other words, even before he got in this very important position in Government, he had 5 months of top secret clearance. Why? That is a question that is going to be a big question in this matter. Huang enjoyed a top secret clearance for 5 months of top secret clearance before joining Commerce and nearly a year after leaving Commerce to join the Democratic National Committee. Why? Why would those security clearances go with him outside of Government? Why would he be permitted this kind of access to very sensitive information? These are questions that are very important. Taken with the $780,000 severance pay Huang received from Lippo prior to joining the Commerce Department, these facts naturally raise questions. This next chart involves a meeting at the White House to discuss the Huang transfer from the White House to the Democratic National Committee on September 13, 1995. It was an Oval Office meeting. The President was there. James Riady, the Lippo executive was there. Bruce Lindsey, the Deputy White House Counsel, was there. Joseph Giroir, who is, I believe, the former top partner in the Rose Law Firm, the Lippo joint venture partner/adviser, former Rose Law Firm partner, and, if I recall correctly, was the managing partner of that firm, and none other than John Huang, former Lippo executive, Principal Deputy Assistant, Secretary of Commerce. At this meeting, it was decided that John Huang would move from the Commerce Department to the Democratic National Committee as vice chairman of finance. We do not know what happened at this meeting, although some extremely troubling explanations have been reported by the media. Each one of these people, it seems to me, with the possible exception of the President, will have to be questioned regarding just what went on at that meeting, why Huang left Commerce, and why he was immediately transferred to the Democratic National Committee as the finance vice chairman, why James Riady, was even at this meeting. That is a very important meeting. Let me put another chart up here. This is John Huang at the Democratic National Committee. These are examples of illegal funds raised by Huang. The Wiriadinatas raised $450,000, all of which was returned by the DNC. Pauline Kanchanalak, $250,000. She has since left the country. She is now in Thailand. All funds returned by the DNC. Wogesh Gandhi, $250,000. He testified he had no assets. All funds returned by the DNC, the Democratic National Committee. Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--$250,000. Like Kanchanalak and others, Cheong Am America--or John H.K. Lee--has disappeared. All of these funds were returned by the Democratic National Committee. Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple, $166,750: This comes from a temple where the residents take a vow of poverty; $74,000 of the $166,750 was returned by the DNC. All together, that we know of, John Huang raised $3.4 million, $1.6 million of which has been returned by the Democratic National Committee. These are just a few of some of the problems that I think the Governmental Affairs Committee is going to have to go into. I do not see how they can avoid doing it. To give a picture of some of the people who seem to be involved in this, let me just highlight some of the other individuals involved in this affair. We start with John Huang, former top Lippo executive in the United States, who had a $780,000 severance package when he went to Congress. He had multiple contacts while there with Lippo. The former Democratic National Committee vice chairman raised more than $3.4 million, $1.6 million was returned, and he visited the White House during this period more than 75 times. C.J. Giroir, in the Lippo joint ventures, former Rose Law Firm attorney, met with James Riady, President Clinton, and Lindsey on the Huang move to DNC, and donated $25,000 to the DNC. Mark Middleton, former White House aide from Little Rock, met with James Riady and President Clinton on that occasion, Far East business interests, had unlimited access to the White House after his departure. Charles Trie, Little Rock restauranteur, received a $60,000 loan from Lippo, and he arranged with the former Lippo executive Antonio Pan to get a Hong Kong dinner for Ron Brown. Trie also attempted to give $600,000 to the Clinton legal trust fund, and he visited the White House at least 37 times. Mark Grobmyer, Little Rock attorney, close friend of President Clinton, consultant to Lippo, Far East business interests, met with James Riady, Huang and President Clinton. Soraya Wiriadinata, daughter of Hashin Ning, former Lippo executive, contributed $450,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned, according to the committee. Soraya has gone back to Indonesia. S. Wang Jun, Lippo joint ventures, Chinese arms merchant, senior executive at CITIC and COSTIND, Chinese Government entities, and attended a White House conference. Webster Hubbell, former Associate Attorney General, received a $250,000 consulting fee from Lippo--would not say why he got that. Charles DeQueljoe is the president of Lippo Securities in Jakarta, gave $70,000 to the Democratic National Committee and was appointed to the USTR office. Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai lobbyist who worked with Huang when he was at Lippo, contributed $253,000 to the DNC, and it was all returned. She had frequent contacts with Huang. She visited the White House at least 26 times. And then we come back to John Huang himself. Now, all of these people are going to have to be interviewed. We are going to have to find out what the facts are here. What was going on? Were there illegalities? In that regard, these are key players who have taken the fifth amendment: John Huang, Charlie Trie, Pauline Kanchanalak, Mark Middleton, and Webster Hubbell. I do not see how anybody on the other side of the floor can argue that this set of hearings should not go on, or that this would not take almost every second of any committee's time, and I am only talking about one aspect of it. There are many other aspects to this. The key players who have left the country--and we have not been given reasons why they left the country--are John H.K. Lee--gone. If he is going to be interviewed, it is overseas. Charlie Trie, gone, after taking the fifth. Pauline Kanchanalak, gone--as far as I know, back in Thailand, after having taken the fifth amendment. Arief and Soraya Wiriadinata, gone. Charles DeQueljoe, gone. And James and Mochtar Riady, gone. They left the country. All this is a brief discussion of one aspect of this. There are other aspects of this, but this is a brief glimpse into some of the serious allegations the Government Oversight Committee will have to look into. I emphasize the point with which I opened, just that at the core of this investigation is a vast series of matters which must be looked into. This will be one of the most important congressional investigations in history. I hope it is not obstructed by partisan tactics and politics. I hope with all my heart it is not. I think the American people expect as much. When I found out over the weekend that the FBI--and I did not know this before--had notified seven Members of Congress that they might be receiving laundered funds from a foreign country, mainly China, I was kind of shocked at that, because if they informed those seven Members of Congress, surely the FBI informed the White House. I have been led to believe by the FBI they informed the National Security Council. That being the case, [[Page S2064]] why are all these people having such access to our White House under those circumstances? As chairman of the Judiciary Committee, as chairman of the committee that oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, naturally, I have to be concerned about it. Now, in addition to all of this, there are newer revelations coming out every day. I challenge the Government Affairs Committee to substantiate these allegations, to look into them. Let me just list some of the new revelations about the campaign finance scandals that were first reported after the Governmental Affairs Committee made a request of $6.5 million to investigate the scandal. First, Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes made a telephone call from Air Force One to warn of the wiring of the money to the Democratic National Committee and additional funds to nonprofit organizations. There is some indication they used Air Force One for the purpose of raising funds. I hope that is not the case. Second, questions have been raised concerning whether the White House database was created for official--as opposed to political--purposes, since it contained individuals' Social Security numbers, nicknames, relations to the First Family, pet political issues, and sometimes a photograph. Third, China may have sought to influence U.S. policy through the direction of foreign campaign contributions to the Democratic National Committee and actions taken at the Chinese embassy. It has been disclosed that Huang had contacts with the embassy while he worked at Commerce. Fourth, the NSC, National Security Council, at the White House provided the White House with warnings about Johnny Chung, who has ties to the Chinese Government, who was nonetheless subsequently granted access to the White House on numerous occasions, even though they knew about those ties. Fifth, Huang approached two business associates and offered to pay them $45,000 if they would take $250,000 from him and donate it in their own names to the Democratic National Committee. That is illegal. Sixth, the White House fired four staff members whose salaries were being paid by the Democratic National Committee while they were working at the White House. I don't know whether that has ever been done before, but it should not be done. There are other allegat

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