TEMPORARY INCREASE IN THE STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT
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TEMPORARY INCREASE IN THE STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT
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TEMPORARY INCREASE IN THE STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the rule, I call up the bill
(
H.R. 2586) to provide for a temporary increase in the public debt
limit, and for other purposes, and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 258, the
gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. McCrery] will be recognized for 30
minutes, and the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Gibbons] will be
recognized for 30 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. McCrery].
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the subject of this bill, of course, is a short-term
extension of the Nation's debt limit. This short-term extension is
intended to provide an orderly process, with sufficient time for the
Congress and the President to consider the balanced budget bill that
will shortly be sent to the President. It is now clear that some type
of pressure must be applied to bring the differing views together and
to resolve this problem.
Mr. Speaker,
H.R. 2586 would temporarily increase the statutory limit
on the public debt to $4.967 trillion. It would do so until December
12, 1995. Under the bill, the limit would then revert to $4.8 trillion.
H.R. 2586 also ensures the financial integrity of Government trust
funds invested in Government debt obligations subject to the debt
limit.
Mr. Speaker, this bill today is necessary because the Congress, the
legislative branch, under our Constitution, is responsible for
authorizing any debt to be incurred by the U.S. Government. That is an
obligation which we must take very seriously, and consider very
carefully. Some in this Chamber are reluctant to increase the Nation's
debt limit at all. I understand that, Mr. Speaker.
However, we all recognize that this Government has made commitments
and entered into obligations that must eventually be paid, so in an
effort to accommodate those obligations and in an effort to accommodate
this body and the executive branch with time to deliberate matters of
great importance to the country, including balancing this Nation's
budget in 7 years, this bill comes to us today. We believe this bill is
not only necessary, but entirely appropriate, and we will get into more
of the details as the debate continues.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, my fine and much-admired friend, the gentleman from
Louisiana, has stated some of this bill, but perhaps he knows more
about it than I do. He says that it is just a temporary legislation.
The first page or so is temporary, but the other 400-and-some pages in
this bill, and the pages that will perhaps be adopted here by
additional amendments, are not temporary legislation. They are very
permanent legislation. They do drastic things to this U.S. Government.
They do it without debate, without consideration, or anything else.
The only reason we are here at this late hour and under this kind of
confusing circumstances is because the Republicans have not been able
to get their act together, to get their majority control together, and
to do the things that should have been done. We are here on November 9
to do the work that should have been done in July of this same year.
The Republicans keep howling and screaming that the President will
not bargain with them, but how, Mr. Speaker, can the President bargain
with them? They have no budget bill. They have not even had a meeting
on their budget bill in 2 weeks. I know. I am a conferee. I have not
even gotten a notice, or, as one Member said, a postcard about a
meeting of the conferees to iron out the differences in the budget
resolution. We are about 4 months behind on the budget, the Congress
is, because the Republicans cannot muster a majority on their side to
get anything done.
We are here at this late hour attempting to blackmail the President
into signing something that he will never sign. The President is not
subject to blackmail. He has enough sense not to give in to that kind
of treatment. He is not going to sign this ridiculous trash here, most
of which is only put together, as the gentleman from Louisiana said,
temporarily, so they can get enough votes together to get this thing
through the House. They are going to drop all these amendments. Their
Members ought to understand that. None of this is ever going to become
law. It is only here so that the Republicans can be coerced or bribed
or twisted their arms or whatever you want to call it to vote for this
thing. It is not going to happen.
It is a terrible way to run the Government. It is a terrible
reflection upon the Republican Party that they cannot do a simple
thing, which is strike out one figure in a piece of legislation and add
another figure. That is all that is here. We have done it hundreds of
times in the years that I have been here without all of this rankle,
all of this other garbage that has been added to it.
Mr. Speaker, this is a very, very poor and disastrous way to run the
Government. It is a terrible reflection upon the Republican Party. We
Democrats do not have control of this body. We do not set the agenda.
We do not have the ability to produce a majority vote. It is all within
their power. It is all within their ability. It is all within their
responsibility. They cannot get up here and pretend that it is
anybody's responsibility except theirs.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, it is with a great deal of pleasure that I
yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger], one
of the most distinguished Members of the Chamber, and chairman of the
Committee on Government Reform and Oversight.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman very much for
yielding time to me.
I guess we will have to put the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Gibbons]
as undecided on this matter.
Mr. Speaker, this bill is more, really, much more than an increase in
the debt limit. It is really a down payment on the promise that we have
made to make government smaller and more responsive to the American
people. It is crucial that we refocus government on those essential
functions that it must perform, and reconsider whether government
should be involved in any activity which it cannot do well.
We presently are involved in a great many activities, Mr. Speaker,
that we do not do well. The reason we have to
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raise the debt ceiling again is that the bureaucracy in Washington has
grown unchecked for far too long. Endlessly we have added, bloated, and
enlarged the Federal Government, so today we are going to continue to
reverse that trend by voting for a second time, Mr. Speaker, to
eliminate the Department of Commerce. This has been debated, has been
considered before with this body, and we have decided in our wisdom to
eliminate the Department of Commerce as part of the reconciliation
discussions.
In my view, the Department of Commerce is one bureaucracy that,
frankly, is not necessary. Functions of the Department overlap with 71
independent agencies of the Government. True, there are, indeed, vital
functions performed by Commerce involving trade, weather services,
statistical information, and essential components will be retained in a
more appropriate home. Other functions will be privatized, sent to the
States and localities, or terminated.
Mr. Speaker, it has been suggested that we are doing this just to put
a scalp on our belt. That is absolutely not true. We have really taken
a very close look at how this Department can be dismantled, how the
functions of that Department can be consolidated and made to work much
more efficiently, much more productively than they have in the past.
Specifically, the commerce title in the debt ceiling bill highlights
the importance of a strong trade policy, consolidates the various
activities that are now spread all over the Federal Government dealing
with trade, presents a cohesive approach to trade promotion. We
consolidate the Department of Scientific and Environmental Functions of
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, we privatize or
eliminate 40 agencies and programs, and we establish a citizens
commission on 21st century government to evaluate the entire Federal
Government, and determine how we can make this government, yes,
smaller, more productive, more efficient, and more responsive to the
American people.
Let me be clear, however, that we are not cutting just for the sake
of saving dollars. If that was the only objective, I do not think it
would be worth doing. In fact, we will be saving a great deal of
dollars as a result of this exercise. The CBO has recently revised
their estimate. We are going to save $6 billion by the elimination or
the dismantlement of the Department of Commerce. The other side
suggests we are just bloating up other parts of the government. That
could not possibly be the case if we are going to save $6 billion.
Clearly we are reducing, not enlarging the government.
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So, Mr. Speaker, I would urge support for this debt limit extension,
and for the elimination of the Department of Commerce. It is long
overdue.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from Michigan [Mr. Levin].
(Mr. LEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, the issue here today is not a balanced budget
and it is not a short-term extension to achieve it. Democrats favor an
extension to help achieve a balanced budget. Most of us are willing to
vote for a clean, short-term extension. Now, why are the Republicans
not proposing it? Why is this layered with all of these additional
proposals?
There are two reasons, Mr. Speaker. First of all, leverage on the
President. Now, look, I am in favor of pressure. But this goes beyond
pressure to try to create a pistol, and I suggest it will not work, it
will backfire. The second reason there is not a clean extension is to
satisfy some internal pressures within the Republican House Caucus. So
they have added a provision on the Department of Commerce and one on
regulatory language, a huge bill that few, if any, have read. Why are
they doing this?
The Senate Republican leadership has made clear that they will not
buy the Commerce Department provision, so you are doing this to have
some satisfaction internally within the Republican House Caucus.
The Senate is working on regulatory reform. So what the Republicans
are really doing here today is to play games, but going beyond it and
playing with fire. What they are going to do through this, if it were
ever to succeed, is to limit the management ability of the President to
manage, to manage this situation, to manage this debt.
Secretary Rubin has said very clearly, this legislation severely
limits options the Secretary has under current law to relieve pressure
and to avert default.
Let us stop playing with fire with the debt. It would increase the
interest rates. It would increase the interest rates for people with
variable mortgages, with credit card debt. Look, what you are doing
through this kind of proposal is linking chaos in this House with
crassness. It will not work.
What you should be doing here today is joining on a bipartisan basis
to pass a short-term extension of the debt period. That is going to
happen sooner or later; let us do it now. I urge defeat of this. Let us
get to our senses and work on a bipartisan basis.
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, just in response to the gentleman's comments, it might
be good to know that the day after the Committee on Ways and Means took
the action to bring this bill to the floor, the stock market went up
some 55 points and interest rates went down. So I think the fact that
we have established a drop-dead date for negotiations to take place
between the executive and legislative branches has, in fact, had a
salutary effect on the markets and we hope to continue this.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from
Florida [Mr. McCollum], the chairman of the Subcommittee on Crime of
the Committee on the Judiciary.
(Mr. McCOLLUM asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. McCOLLUM. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, I want to talk about one of those extra things that are
on this bill, that really is not controversial in the broad sense,
because it has passed the House a number of times, including this
Congress, by overwhelming margins. It is something that really should
be enacted into law, and we have an opportunity on this debt ceiling
bill to get it down to the President in a timely fashion, which we have
not had before, and that is the reform of what is known as habeas
corpus laws to try to end the seemingly endless appeals that death row
inmates have.
Mr. Speaker, I can assure anybody who has paid attention to the death
row situation, where people have committed heinous crimes and have been
convicted and sentenced to death, that that is an abomination that
people can carry out the sentence for as much as 15 or 20 years by
procedural gimmicks.
What happens, of course, is that they get convicted, they go through
a State court appeal posture after they get sentenced to death, they go
all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States, and a court
says, the conviction is fine, the sentence is fine. They come back and
they have an opportunity to go into Federal district court and file
what is known as a habeas corpus petition and seek to get out on a
procedural matter; for example, they did not have a lawyer who
represented them properly at trial.
They then take that appeal and go all the way back to the Supreme
Court, which takes a considerable amount of time, and after the Supreme
Court denies that appeal, they can go back into Federal district court
again on some other procedural ground and appeal that, and it could go
on and on and on.
What we do in this and what the House did earlier this year, and what
is part of this bill, if we pass it today and send it to the President
and maybe get it enacted into law, we say that after your finish your
Federal appeal you can go into Federal court only one time. You have to
put all of your apples in that basket, all of your procedural
complaints and issues, and let it be decided and get on with the
carrying out of the sentence if you do not have any grounds for those.
Obviously, anybody who can provide that they are really innocent of the
crime, they are not going to have the death penalty carried out.
We have been waiting for a long, long time, years battling over this
issue. This is a perfect bill, one the President
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really has to face and sign, a short-term debt extension, to finally
get it enacted into law, the reform of habeas corpus, to end this
process of staying and keeping staying, again and again and again, the
death penalties in the State courts of this Nation. It is time to act
now, and I urge the adoption of this bill.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Connecticut [Mrs. Kennelly].
Mrs. KENNELLY asked and was give permission to revise and extend her
remarks.)
Mrs. KENNELLY. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to
H.R. 2586. As a
Member who has consistently been responsible and voted to increase the
debt ceiling, it saddens me to stand here in opposition.
We have heard all sorts of obfuscation from the majority. But let
there be no mistake, raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with
the current level of government spending, and everything to do with
financing our prior obligations--living up to our commitments. There is
no doubt that the debt ceiling will be raised in the long run. What we
should be doing here today is passing a clean temporary debt ceiling as
an interim measure to prevent default while a balanced budget agreement
can be hammered out.
The bill before us today purports to protect trust funds but it has
the practical effect of ensuring that Medicare claims won't be paid,
tax refund checks can't be cashed and our Armed Forces won't be paid.
It also strips the Secretary of the Treasury of all cash management
tools--tools that were provided Republican Secretaries of the Treasury
by Democratic Congresses. It is nothing more than an attempt to
blackmail the President and to ultimately push us closer to default. It
is irresponsible and unacceptable.
We stand here today and listen to the majority try to blame the
President for delay. But, let's look at the facts. It is November 9th,
5 weeks after the start of the fiscal year and congressional
Republicans have yet to even send their plan to the President. In 1993,
the Clinton budget plan was enacted by August. The majority talks about
getting their budget done on time, yet, they've only sent the President
3 of the 13 required appropriations bills. So let us be clear now who
is responsible for delay.
When all is said and done, the debt ceiling will be increased. We
shouldn't hold the economy or average American families hostage to a
partisan debate on a balanced budget. We should enact a clean extension
in the debt ceiling immediately.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Mica].
Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of
H.R. 2586 as chairman of
the Subcommittee on Civil Service. This bill provides important
protections for active and retired Federal workers. It protects the
integrity of the civil service retirement and disability fund and the
government securities investment fund.
Under this bill, the administration will not be able to raid these
funds in order to pretend that our national debt does not exceed the
debt limit. The civil service retirement and disability fund provides
authority to fund annuities paid under the Civil Service Retirement
System and the Federal Employees Retirement System. It is a tempting
target for the administration to raid, Mr. Speaker. In fact, it
contains about 374 billion dollars' worth of special nonmarketable
government securities that are subject to the debt limit.
Many current Federal employees invest their money in the government
securities investment fund. This is one of the three funds in which
employees can invest under the thrift savings plan. Their money is also
invested in special nonmarketable government securities subject to the
debt limit. In the past, Mr. Speaker, administrations have raided the
civil service retirement and disability fund in order to stay under the
debt limit. They have refused to invest the dollars coming into the
fund. The administration could even just tear up existing nonmarketable
securities in the fund. It has been done before.
It is also clear, Mr. Speaker, that the administration intends to
raid the civil service retirement and disability fund. I have here a
set of administration talking points that make that clear.
Mr. Speaker, the civil service retirement disability fund is already
woefully underfunded to the tune of $540 billion. Yes, Mr. Speaker,
there is already an unfunded liability of half a trillion dollars. Our
learned colleagues on the other side of the aisle screamed and hollered
when the private employers asked to be able to withdraw their excess
contributions from their employee retirement funds that were more than
125 percent funded. Yes, Mr. Speaker, they did not even want private
employers to reach into expensively funded plans. These same people now
have the gall to give the administration a free reign to raid the
retirement fund that is so woefully underfunded.
Mr. Speaker, we need to manage our public debt and to work hard to
reduce it, but allowing the administration to dip into these funds
would just be a gimmick. It is a charade. It is time to inject some
fiscal responsibility in managing the Government accounts.
I support
H.R. 2586, Mr. Speaker, because it prevents the
administration from raiding the funds behind our employee retirement
systems and behind their backs, and it makes sure their annuities are
paid.
Mr. Speaker, I insert the following information in support of my
statement.
Excerpt from Department of Treasury Talking Points, Nov. 7, 1995
Finally, by repealing the debt management features of the
law relating to the Civil Service Retirement and Disability
Fund, the bill would increase the risk of default by severely
limiting the ability of the Secretary of the Treasury to
assure that crucial government payments--including benefit
payments such as Social Security, as well as payments on the
public debt--could be made in a time of debt limit crisis.
These provisions were enacted in a Republican Administration
and reflect the widely held view that the Secretary should
have options to relieve pressure and avert default.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, before this debate gets too rough, I yield
1 minute to the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Moran] who knows something
about the subject that was just discussed.
Mr. MORAN. Mr. Speaker, in fact, I have my money in that very
retirement fund.
Mr. Speaker, first of all, it must be said that this legislation
plays politics with people's lives. It is deliberately designed to
force a default of Federal debt obligations, and specifically ties the
President's hands from being able to avert a debt ceiling crisis under
the excuse that this is supposed to save Civil Service retirees. That
provision was put in during the Reagan administration precisely to
protect the Civil Service Retirement Trust Fund. That is why it was put
there. Now it is being repealed.
Mr. Speaker, I have a letter from the Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board, dated today. This is a nonpartisan board designed to
oversee the Federal Thrift Savings Plan. This letter says that this
provision, if this bill is passed, will cost Federal retirees' $3.5
million per day, an amount that once lost, will never be recaptured. Do
not do this to Federal retirees, do not do it to Social Security
retirees. I urge defeat of this legislation.
Mr. Speaker, the letter referred to follows:
Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board,
Washington, DC, November 9, 1995.
Hon. James P. Moran, Jr.,
Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Civil Service, U.S. House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Congressman Moran: I have reviewed
H.R. 2586 which
provides for a temporary extension of the Federal debt limit.
The proposed legislation provides for the repeal, inter alia,
of 5 U.S.C. Sec. 8438(g), which was enacted on May 22, 1987,
to prevent harming Federal employees with investments in the
Thrift Savings Plan's G Fund. It was foreseen at that time
that, during periods of constraint on the issuance of
Treasury securities brought about by the debt limit, the
moneys of Federal employees in the G Fund would irretrievably
lose interest (since they could not be invested) but for this
carefully drafted, bipartisan ``make-whole'' provision. (The
enclosed letter from former Executive Director Francis
Cavanaugh forwarded the proposed legislation (not included)
to Congress in April 1987, and it was quickly enacted.)
A repeal of this provision at this time would cost Federal
employees invested in the G Fund more than $3.5 million per
day of debt limit constraint, an amount that, once lost, will
never be recaptured. That Federal employees' retirement funds
might be thus diminished is a matter of great concern to
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me and my fellow fiduciaries, as I am sure it is to you.
All of the provisions of the proposed legislation can be
enacted without harm to Federal employee' retirement funds
except for the repeal of Sec. 8438(g) (and its administrative
concomitant, Sec. 8438(h). That is, the purpose of the
proposed draft legislation can be fully met, as set forth in
its accompanying two-page explanation, with the deletion of
the words ``, and subsections (g) and (h) of section 8438 of
such title'' on page 6, lines 7 and 8. (The other provisions
to be repealed pertain to the Civil Service Trust fund;
because that fund is not owned by employees directly, their
ultimate benefit levels as derived therefrom are unaffected.)
If the bill were passed in its present form, the
fiduciaries of the Thrift Savings Plan would be obligated to
point out the needless and costly removal by Congress of a
protection for Federal employees intended to prevent debt
limit politics from impairing the integrity of their
retirement funds. (The ``make-whole'' provision of
Sec. 8438(g) has been employed on four separate occasions in
the past to restore interest otherwise lost to Federal
employees from debt limit hiatuses.)
I have sent a similar letter to Congressman John Mica. I am
asking your and his cooperation in preventing any repeal of
Sec. 8438(g) in order to safeguard Federal employees'
retirement moneys and ensure their confidence in the G Fund,
which, at $21.5 billion currently, comprises approximately
\2/3\ of total Thrift Savings Plan investments.
Sincerely,
Roger W. Mehle,
Executive Director.
Enclosure.
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Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board,
Washington, DC, April 30, 1987.
Hon. Jim Wright,
Speaker of the House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Speaker: The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment
Board respectfully submits the enclosed draft bill to prevent
the loss of interest earnings to federal employees in the
Thrift Savings Plan (Plan) which would otherwise result from
a temporary suspension of the authority of the Secretary of
the Treasury to issue public debt obligations to the Plan.
The Federal Employees' Retirement System Act of 1986 (5
U.S.C. 8401-8479) established a tax-deferred Thrift Savings
Plan for federal employees. Effective April 1, 1987, all
government and employee contributions to the Plan must be
invested in Treasury securities issued to the Government
Securities Investment Fund (GSIF) of the Plan. Since such
securities, like other Treasury debt issues, are subject to
the statutory limit on the amount of public debt outstanding,
the Secretary will be unable to issue such securities to the
GSIF after May 15 unless Congress acts on debt limit
legislation by that date.
The present temporary public debt limit of $2.3 trillion is
due to expire on May 15, 1987, on which date the debt limit
will revert to the permanent statutory ceiling of $2.1
trillion.
We understand that the Treasury Department advised Congress
today, in testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee
that the Department expects to have sufficient cash on May 15
so that an increase in the debt ceiling would not be
necessary until May 28. Nevertheless, beginning May 16 the
Treasury will be unable to issue any securities subject to
the debt limit, including securities issued to the GSIF.
Thus, if Congress does not act on debt limit legislation
prior to May 16, the GSIF will lose interest; there is no
authority for the Treasury to pay such interest at a later
date to make up for such losses.
The proposed legislation would provide the same treatment
to the Thrift Savings Plan as is now provided by law (P.L.
99-509) to the Civil Service Retirement Fund. This treatment
requires the Treasury to make up any loss of earnings to the
Fund created by a suspension of Treasury borrowing authority.
Although the bill seeks parity of treatment with the Civil
Service Retirement Fund, it is important to note that the
Thrift Savings Plan is different from the Civil Service
Retirement System (CSRS) in that the Thrift Savings Plan is a
wholly voluntary, defined contribution plan; whereas CSRS is
a mandatory, defined benefit plan. CSRS plan benefits do not
depend directly on the amount of the Fund's interest
earnings. The employer-employee contributions to the Thrift
Savings Plan, although held
in the custody of the Treasury Department, actually belong
to the individual employees. Accordingly, Congress intended
that the Thrift Investment Board be a financially independent
agency and exempted the Board from the appropriations
process, the budget, and the controls of the Executive Office
of the President which apply to other federal agencies. Yet,
perhaps inadvertently, Congress did not insulate the Board or
the Plan from the constraints of the public debt limit.
The Board believes that obligations issued to the GSIF
should clearly be exempt from the public debt limit
constraints. Yet, in view of the urgent need for timely
legislative action before May 15, we are requesting only that
the Plan be accorded the same treatment as the Civil Service
Retirement Fund.
Federal employees have been urged to deposit their funds in
the Thrift Savings Plan upon the representation that such
funds will be safely invested in government securities with a
guaranteed rate of return based on a prescribed statutory
interest rate formula. The Board has an obligation to federal
employees to make every effort to see that this commitment is
honored. Now, at the very beginning of the Plan, it is
especially important that there be no question as to the
integrity of the government's representation as to such
investments. In order to prevent unnecessary fear and
confusion on this point, we urge Congress to act on the
enclosed bill as soon as possible and before any suspension
of Treasury borrowing authority occurs.
We are sending a similar letter to the President of the
Senate. Copies have been sent to the Director of the Office
of Management and Budget.
Sincerely,
Francis X. Cavanaugh,
Executive Director.
Enclosure.
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Summary of the Bill
The purpose of the bill is to ensure that the federal
employees' Thrift Savings Plan (Plan) does not suffer a loss
of earnings in its Government Securities Investment Fund in
the event of a temporary suspension of borrowing authority of
the United States Treasury Department, due to the statutory
public debt limit.
The bill provides that, in the event the Secretary of the
Treasury suspends additional issuance of Treasury securities
to the Government Securities Investment Fund because such
issuance would exceed the debt limit, immediately upon
lifting of the borrowing suspension, the Secretary of the
Treasury shall issue securities to the Plan at interest rates
and maturities which will replicate the obligations that
would have been held by the Plan if the suspension had not
occurred. This ``make-whole'' relief will include the payment
of any interest the Plan loses as a result of the suspension.
Both the obligations and the interest will be determined in
accordance with the daily investment decisions made by the
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board during the
suspension period which would have been effective were it not
for the suspension.
The treatment accorded to the Plan by the bill is similar
to that accorded to the Civil Service Retirement and
Disability Fund in Section 6002 of the Omnibus Budget
Reconciliation Act of 1986, except that the bill recognizes
the statutory responsibility of the Executive Director (5
U.S.C. 8438(f)(2)(A)), rather than the Secretary of the
Treasury, to determine the amounts and maturities of the
investments in the Government Securities Investment Fund.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Stearns].
Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of this bill, but
obviously, like many, I do so with some reluctance. While I have often
opposed raising the debt ceiling, because of our efforts this bill
includes a pledge to achieve a CBO-scored balanced budget in 7 years. I
call attention to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, this pledge
is in the rule committing the President and Congress to enact in the
year 1995, the calendar year, legislation for a balanced budget by the
year 2002. It affirms the intent of Congress and the President to do
so, and it is in black and white, and it is part of this package that
we are voting on.
This, my friends, is the crux of our Contract With America. This is
why we have the responsibility today to be responsible. Do I like
raising the debt? Obviously I do not. But, for this reason, and for
this language, I intend to vote for this raising of the debt to
ultimately balance the budget. However, Mr. Speaker, what is also a
concern of mine is that without certain provisions in this bill, that
Chairman Archer made sure were in this bill, the Clinton administration
could dip into supposedly safe trust funds such as the Social Security
trust fund, the Medicare trust fund, and the Federal retiree trust
fund.
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I find this totally unacceptable and, frankly, so do the American
taxpayers. Yet the President is threatening to veto this bill because
we refuse to let the administration raid the Social Security, Medicare,
and Federal retiree trust funds. That is what the people on the other
side are saying. These trust funds should not see their assets reduced
even temporarily. It sets a bad precedent of encouraging the Treasury
Department to raid these funds. Without this amendment in the bill, the
money paid into these funds would be diverted to pay for other
services.
Mr. Speaker, this is not the American way, and this should not be
done. The American people have placed their trust in us to manage their
funds, to protect their investments. We cannot let them down.
I urge my colleagues, it is time to be responsible to pass this bill
and to pass
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a balanced budget amendment that will eliminate the need after almost
40 years of Democrat control for such legislation in the future.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Minnesota [Mr. Sabo].
(Mr. SABO asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. SABO. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for yielding me the
time.
Mr. Speaker, we should vote this bill down. We should be passing a
clean continuing resolution or a clean debt limit extension for a
reasonable time.
Why are we here today? We are here because this is the most
mismanaged legislative session I have seen in 35 years serving in
legislative office. It is November 9. The fiscal year began October 1.
I fully expected we would need a continuing resolution because the
majority would have passed appropriation bills, they would have been
vetoed in some cases, and the Congress and administration would be
negotiating. Instead, 9 of 13 bills have not passed the Congress. So we
need a continuing resolution.
Why do we need this bill on the debt ceiling? Because it is now
November. The Congress is doing what it should have been doing in July,
should have been passing its budget bill, sending it to the President,
probably vetoed, then serious negotiations occurring.
Instead, we have drifted along all session doing what was not
crucial; and here, a month and a half into the fiscal year, the House
and Senate is still dealing with the conference report. Shame on us. If
we had done our work, this bill would have been on the President's desk
before the August recess as it was 2 years ago, negotiations could have
occurred in September, maybe into mid-October, and had a solution.
Instead, total mismanagement. Mid-November, no budget bill, most of the
appropriation bills still hung up in the Congress. Instead, we find
ourselves with a debt ceiling extension, with habeas corpus and
Commerce and I do not know what all else is in here.
Mr. Speaker, we should defeat this bill.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Maryland [Mr. Hoyer].
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for yielding me
the time.
Mr. Speaker, I said yesterday that we started this Congress with the
Contract With America. There were 10 items essentially. Two out of the
first three talked about responsibility. The first item talked about
responsibility. The third item talked about personal responsibility. I
tell my friends on the Republican side of the aisle that this bill is
neither fiscally responsible nor it is personally responsible; and,
yes, we ought to be ashamed of playing with the credit of the United
States of America as we are doing.
This is not a serious attempt at responsible Government. It contains
extraneous matters unrelated to the critical issue of making sure
America pays it bills. Every American thinks its Government ought to do
that.
But that's not what we're doing today. This bill is loaded down with
unrelated provisions that have nothing to do with the problem before us
and will cause the President to veto this legislation.
Just like yesterday's continuing resolution, which the President has
also indicated he will veto, this is not a serious attempt at
responsible Government.
I am afraid that the message to Federal employees is: Don't consider
this a holiday weekend because you may not have a job next week.
The Republican leadership seems determined to close down Government
operations.
They are taking the CR and the debt limit extension down the path to
the same fate as many of the appropriations bills--stuck in the mud of
political partisanship.
This Government is not put at risk by this irresponsibility with
which we are confronted today. They want to up Social Security and
Medicare payments by $151 per recipient in this bill. That ought to be
debated fully. Habeas corpus, that may be a good bill, but it is not
subject to having an impact on the debt of the United States. Eliminate
the Commerce Department, a 200-page bill that the President disagrees
with. You put at risk the credit of the United States.
This debt limit extension measure also limits the Secretary of the
Treasury's ability to manage Federal employee investments in the thrift
savings plan as well as their retirement fund.
These provisions have nothing to do with allowing the Treasury
Department to continue to borrow money.
Auctions have already been canceled because of the Republican
leadership's failure to act.
I am gravely concerned about the impact of not passing a CR and debt
limit extension on Federal employees. They have been attacked again and
again in this Congress and now the leadership is threatening to send
them home on furlough.
Those in the Congress who claim to be Federal employee advocates and
then vote for these extreme measures are, in my opinion, undermining
the security of those Federal employees whom they claim to represent.
This is not a rhetorical issue. This is real fear for civil servants
who have families to feed and mortgages to pay. The lives of Federal
employees are once again being thrown into chaos as the Republicans
pursue their extreme agenda.
Ladies and gentlemen of this House, ladies and gentlemen of America,
this bill is a patently petty political terrorist tactic. That is what
it is. An attempt to force the President of the United States to adopt
things that you cannot get through your own Senate, not just the
Congress. This bill adopts tactics that put America as a hostage to an
extremist agenda.
Mr. HASTERT. Mr. Speaker, I ask that the gentleman's words be taken
down.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hobson). The Clerk will report the
words.
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Mr. HOYER. I would be glad to repeat them if you would like just so
they are clear on the Record.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hobson). The gentleman shall refrain
from speaking.
The Clerk will report the words.
The Clerk read as follows:
Ladies and gentlemen of this House, ladies and gentlemen of
America, this bill is a patently petty political terrorist
tactic, that is what it is, an attempt to force the President
of the United States to adopt things that you cannot get
through your own Senate, not just the Congress. This bill
adopts tactics that put America as a hostage to an extremist
agenda.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair rules that since this is not a
reference to an individual Member, that the remarks are in order.
However, the Chair would observe that there is a civility within the
House in addressing bills and Members that should be observed, and it
would be hoped that in the future that would be observed by all
Members.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the Speaker for his ruling.
The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. Hoyer] has
expired.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Pennsylvania [Mr. Walker].
Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that there is a legitimate concern about the
use of trust funds that has been mentioned earlier, and that the reason
why some who are coming to the floor are suggesting that they want to
give the administration total latitude on these issues is because, I
think, they are probably aware that the administration intends to use
the civil service retirement trust funds, the Government securities
investment fund, other cash, and perhaps even the Social Security trust
fund as the way of financing our debt into the future.
Now, we have heard discussion on the floor about the fact that we do
not want to default for the first time in history. The fact is we have
never used the Social Security trust fund for anything other than
Social Security payments at any time in history, either, and yet what
we are being told by this administration and by those defending the
administration on the floor, they are prepared, in pursuit of their
political agenda, to allow the Social Security trust fund to at some
point in the future be invaded for the purposes of paying the bills.
Now, our direction has been to try to balance the budget. We realize
that that takes a lot of hard work. We realize it has been an uphill
fight, with those who are opposed to that agenda fighting us every step
of the way to see
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to it these bills do not get passed. We realize there has been a
concerted effort to try to stop bills in other places in the Capitol
Building so that, in fact, the work cannot get completed, and now we
come down to the point where there is no longer an ability to pay the
debts that have been incurred over the last several years.
Now we are being told that the Social Security trust fund should be
put in jeopardy in the future. I would suggest that we ought to pass
the bill that is before us. Yes, it does contain a number of items in
it that we think are good for the country, such as regulatory reform,
we hope, after that amendment is adopted, habeas corpus reform, and a
number of other things. Fundamentally, what it does is allow the
President to borrow temporarily, and does so in a way that assures
protection of the trust funds.
Why do I say that we believe all this is happening? We have heard it
directly from the Department of the Treasury.
I have before me materials that indicate that the Department of the
Treasury is prepared in fact to begin using the civil service
retirement and disability fund. At a press briefing yesterday, they
outlined about $28 billion of money they are going to use, first out of
the Government securities investment fund, then out of civil service
retirement, then out of other petty cash amounts, and the next step
down the line, my friends, is the Social Security trust fund.
That is, I think, a very grave danger for us all. the way that you
can prevent that kind of problem from occurring is to vote for the bill
brought to you by the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer], assure that we
do protect the Social Security trust fund now and into the future,
assure we do have the ability to raise the debt limit enough to pay our
bills and, oh, by the way, get a couple of things done good for
America, such as eliminating a Cabinet department and giving this
Nation regulatory reform.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I am placing in the Record at this point a statement
made by the Secretary of the Treasury on the subject matter under
debate.
The referenced material is as follows:
Statement of Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin and Social Security
Commissioner Shirley S. Chater
As Trustees of the Social Security Trust Funds we want to
assure the American people that the resources of the Funds
are preserved and protected for the benefit of every American
who is now, or will in the future become, entitled to receive
Social Security benefits.
Questions have arisen recently whether, because of the
failure by Congress to increase the national debt limit, the
resources of the Funds might be used to provide funds for
governmental purposes unrelated to the payment of Social
Security benefits. This is our reply: The Social Security
Trust Funds will not be used for any purpose other than to
assure the payment of benefits to Social Security recipients.
We will continue to protect Social Security.
Furthermore, Congress should increase the statutory debt
limit in a manner so all of the government's obligations will
be paid on time. The Ways and Means Committee's bill,
however, leaves Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Supplemental
Security Income, veterans and military personnel, and
obligations such as the principal and interest on the public
debt all at risk. This is simply not acceptable.
In sum: this Administration will not use Social Security
Trust Funds for any purpose other than to assure the payment
of benefits to Social Security recipients.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Virginia [Mr. Scott].
Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the resolution, and
in particular the provision involving death row appeals.
Mr. Speaker, the provisions in this bill are different from the
provisions in the House-passed bill, and these provisions have been
sprung on us in the last 24 hours.
Mr. Speaker, the provisions of this will do nothing to reduce crime.
Death row inmates are not the ones out there robbing, raping and
murdering in the streets. There is not even anecdotal evidence these
inmates are the cause of crime in our community.
Mr. Speaker, we have not addressed the problem of innocent people
being put to death. It was reported in the New York Times this Sunday
that a man who had been on death row for 11 years in Illinois was
released after being acquitted when a subsequent trial disclosed that a
police officer had lied in the first trial.
What have we done about the police officer lying? Yesterday we had a
hearing on a bill that would limit the civil liability of the police
officer who lied, and today we consider legislation that will put the
defendant to death quicker so it will be less likely we ever could have
found out the truth.
Mr. Speaker, if we are going to do something about crime, we need to
do something different than what we have done so far this year, such as
cut funding for attorneys and death row appeals, which will create more
complications and more appeals. We have cut funding for crime
prevention and cops on the beat; cut funding for summer jobs, putting
more youth out on the streets; cut funding for college scholarships and
Head Start. All of that will increase crime.
If we really wanted to do something about crime, we would increase
the money for Head Start, summer jobs, college scholarships, crime
prevention and cops on the beat, and not insert these useless sound
bites in essential legislation.
Mr. Speaker, we should focus on the financial crisis before us and
not sneak provisions such as this through a debt ceiling resolution.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Georgia [Mr. Collins], a member of the Committee on Ways and Means.
Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the resolution by the chairman to
increase the debt limit, but I do so with some reluctance.
I hate to see us increase the debt that the taxpayers of this country
owe and that I know that our children will someday have to pay. But I
also know that if we are going to reach a balanced budget over the 7
years, as we have planned and as we have passed in both bodies, that we
will have to extend that debt limit. I understand that there is a lot
of confusion and controversy about how we are going to do that, and it
will take a couple, 2, 3 more weeks to really rectify those
differences.
So, therefore, we must increase the funding and the borrowing power
of our Government.
The thing that I like about this bill or this proposal is it will
restrict the use of trust funds. But, Mr. Speaker, you have heard the
old saying, ``A day late and a dollar short.'' Well, sir, I think we
are years late and several billon dollars short, because out of the
$4.9 trillion that we currently owe as the debt, the debt that is owed
by the taxpayers that has been created by the Congress, $1.25 trillion
of it is actually owed to trust funds, trust funds that people have
contributed to that they expect someday to receive in return.
Let me give you some of those amounts, Mr. Speaker. The Federal
employee's trust fund, some $375 billion owed by Treasury to that trust
fund; the Medicare part A trust fund, $130 billion owed by Treasury to
that trust fund; VA retirement, over $112 billion owed to that trust
fund by the Treasury; and Social Security, Mr. Speaker, some $483
billion of old age pension, part of my old age pension, owed to the
trust fund by the Treasury.
Mr. Speaker, I am including at this point in the Record a table
concerning the trust fund impact on budget results and investment
holdings as of September 30, 1995:
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TABLE 8.--TRUST FUND IMPACT ON BUDGET RESULTS AND INVESTMENT HOLDINGS AS OF SEPT. 30, 1995
[In millions of dollars]
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This month Fiscal year to date Securities held as investments,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ current fiscal year
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Classification Beginning of
Receipts Outlays Excess Receipts Outlays Excess -------------------------- Close of
This year This month this month
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Trust receipts, outlays, and
investments held:
Airport........................ 333 777 -445 6,125 7,242 -1,117 12,206 11,547 11,145
Black lung disability.......... 416 426 -46 987 987 (**) (*) (*) (*)
Federal disability insurance... 4,749 3,606 1,143 70,215 41,380 28,835 6,100 34,146 35,225
Federal employees life and
health........................ (*) -145 145 (*) -1,240 1,240 22,503 23,601 23,729
Federal employees retirement... 24,375 3,268 21,108 66,821 38,899 27,923 346,317 353,081 374,219
Federal hospital insurance..... 9,150 10,271 -1,121 114,847 114,883 -36 128,716 180,931 129,864
Federal old-age and survivors
insurance..................... 26,560 24,569 1,991 326,084 294,474 31,611 403,425 445,944 147,947
Federal supplementary medical
insurance..................... 1,746 5,903 -4,157 58,169 65,213 -7,044 21,489 17,675 13,513
Highways....................... 2,115 2,340 -226 23,613 22,688 925 17,694 8,846 8,531
Military advances.............. 967 1,314 -347 12,469 13,417 -948 (*) (*) (*)
Railroad retirement............ 451 675 -224 9,093 7,924 1,169 12,203 14,063 14,440
Military retirement............ 918 2,386 -1,468 34,624 27,797 6,827 105,367 114,320 112,963
Unemployment................... 336 1,801 -1,465 32,820 25,282 7,539 39,788 48,660 47,141
Veterans life insurance........ 23 110 -86 1,356 1,231 126 13,477 13,690 13,606
All other trust................ 525 555 -30 6,056 4,346 1,710 12,317 14,180 14,060
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Total trust fund receipts
and outlays and
investments held from
Table 6-D................. 72,665 57,893 14,772 763,281 664,521 98,760 1,151,601 1,240,682 1,256,385
Less Interfund transactions.... 27,150 27,150 ........... 212,849 212,849 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Trust fund receipts and
outlays on the basis of
Tables 4 and 5............ 45,515 30,742 14,772 550,432 451,671 98,760 ........... ........... ...........
====================================================================================================================
Total Federal fund receipts
and outlays............... 100,994 108,480 -7,486 835,221 1,097,794 262,573 ........... ........... ...........
Less Interfund transactions.... 443 443 (*) 975 975 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Federal fund receipts and
outlays on the basis of
Tables 4 and 5............ 100,551 108,037 -7,486 834,245 1,096,819 -262,573 ........... ........... ...........
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Less: Offsetting proprietary
receipts...................... 2,846 2,846 (*) 34,101 34,101 (*) ........... ........... ...........
====================================================================================================================
Net budget receipts and
outlays................... 143,219 135,933 7,286 1,350,576 1,514,389 -163,813 ........... ........... ...........
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*No transactions.
Note: Interfund receipts and outlays are transactions between Federal funds and trust funds such as Federal payments and contributions, and interest and
profits on investments in Federal securities. They have no net effect on overall budget receipts and outlays since the receipts side of such
transactions is offset against budget outlays. In this table, Interfund receipts are shown as an adjustment to arrive at total receipts and outlays of
trust funds respectively. Details may not add to totals due to rounding.
Source: U.S. Treasury, final monthly Treasury statement of receipts and outlays, September 1995.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Michigan [Mr. Conyers].
(Mr. CONYERS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, first, my thanks to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Gibbons] for his courtesies and tenacity in this debate.
Members of the committee, it is pathetic that in a several hundred
page bill that was delivered to the Democrats on the Judiciary at 10:45
a.m. this morning, 27 pages of habeas corpus reform of the Senate's
that we have never seen, never read, never discussed, never debated,
never.
Why? This is the short-term debt ceiling limitation bill. What in
God's name is habeas corpus doing in this provision? You can pass it,
Republicans, anyway separately, I guess. You have been rolling all the
votes here for 10 months. But why stick it in overnight? Is there some
logic that this could be happening here in the most democratic forum,
the most democratic, fairest parliamentary system that we have in the
Federal Government?
But worse than that, this provision limits review in other habeas
cases. And my colleagues who have been so concerned about civil rights
violations by Federal law enforcement, read Ruby Ridge and Waco, that
now they want to leave Federal law enforcement and judges with no way
to protect against overzealous Federal law officers who may not have
acted lawfully.
It is pathetic that habeas reform has been tucked away in the debt
ceiling package. Habeas reform has absolutely nothing to do with short-
term debt and I cannot help but wonder why the Republicans, who control
both Houses of Congress need to attempt to pass habeas reform in this
underhanded manner.
My colleagues should make no mistake, this so-called habeas reform
bill does not reform habeas corpus law, it all but eliminates Federal
appeals in death penalty cases.
This bill will also limit review in other habeas cases. My colleagues
on the right who have been so concerned about civil rights violations
by Federal law enforcement officers may find that they are left with no
remedy when a lower court judge finds that those overzealous Federal
officers acted lawfully.
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TEMPORARY INCREASE IN THE STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the rule, I call up the bill
(
H.R. 2586) to provide for a temporary increase in the public debt
limit, and for other purposes, and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 258, the
gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. McCrery] will be recognized for 30
minutes, and the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Gibbons] will be
recognized for 30 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. McCrery].
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the subject of this bill, of course, is a short-term
extension of the Nation's debt limit. This short-term extension is
intended to provide an orderly process, with sufficient time for the
Congress and the President to consider the balanced budget bill that
will shortly be sent to the President. It is now clear that some type
of pressure must be applied to bring the differing views together and
to resolve this problem.
Mr. Speaker,
H.R. 2586 would temporarily increase the statutory limit
on the public debt to $4.967 trillion. It would do so until December
12, 1995. Under the bill, the limit would then revert to $4.8 trillion.
H.R. 2586 also ensures the financial integrity of Government trust
funds invested in Government debt obligations subject to the debt
limit.
Mr. Speaker, this bill today is necessary because the Congress, the
legislative branch, under our Constitution, is responsible for
authorizing any debt to be incurred by the U.S. Government. That is an
obligation which we must take very seriously, and consider very
carefully. Some in this Chamber are reluctant to increase the Nation's
debt limit at all. I understand that, Mr. Speaker.
However, we all recognize that this Government has made commitments
and entered into obligations that must eventually be paid, so in an
effort to accommodate those obligations and in an effort to accommodate
this body and the executive branch with time to deliberate matters of
great importance to the country, including balancing this Nation's
budget in 7 years, this bill comes to us today. We believe this bill is
not only necessary, but entirely appropriate, and we will get into more
of the details as the debate continues.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, my fine and much-admired friend, the gentleman from
Louisiana, has stated some of this bill, but perhaps he knows more
about it than I do. He says that it is just a temporary legislation.
The first page or so is temporary, but the other 400-and-some pages in
this bill, and the pages that will perhaps be adopted here by
additional amendments, are not temporary legislation. They are very
permanent legislation. They do drastic things to this U.S. Government.
They do it without debate, without consideration, or anything else.
The only reason we are here at this late hour and under this kind of
confusing circumstances is because the Republicans have not been able
to get their act together, to get their majority control together, and
to do the things that should have been done. We are here on November 9
to do the work that should have been done in July of this same year.
The Republicans keep howling and screaming that the President will
not bargain with them, but how, Mr. Speaker, can the President bargain
with them? They have no budget bill. They have not even had a meeting
on their budget bill in 2 weeks. I know. I am a conferee. I have not
even gotten a notice, or, as one Member said, a postcard about a
meeting of the conferees to iron out the differences in the budget
resolution. We are about 4 months behind on the budget, the Congress
is, because the Republicans cannot muster a majority on their side to
get anything done.
We are here at this late hour attempting to blackmail the President
into signing something that he will never sign. The President is not
subject to blackmail. He has enough sense not to give in to that kind
of treatment. He is not going to sign this ridiculous trash here, most
of which is only put together, as the gentleman from Louisiana said,
temporarily, so they can get enough votes together to get this thing
through the House. They are going to drop all these amendments. Their
Members ought to understand that. None of this is ever going to become
law. It is only here so that the Republicans can be coerced or bribed
or twisted their arms or whatever you want to call it to vote for this
thing. It is not going to happen.
It is a terrible way to run the Government. It is a terrible
reflection upon the Republican Party that they cannot do a simple
thing, which is strike out one figure in a piece of legislation and add
another figure. That is all that is here. We have done it hundreds of
times in the years that I have been here without all of this rankle,
all of this other garbage that has been added to it.
Mr. Speaker, this is a very, very poor and disastrous way to run the
Government. It is a terrible reflection upon the Republican Party. We
Democrats do not have control of this body. We do not set the agenda.
We do not have the ability to produce a majority vote. It is all within
their power. It is all within their ability. It is all within their
responsibility. They cannot get up here and pretend that it is
anybody's responsibility except theirs.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, it is with a great deal of pleasure that I
yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger], one
of the most distinguished Members of the Chamber, and chairman of the
Committee on Government Reform and Oversight.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman very much for
yielding time to me.
I guess we will have to put the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Gibbons]
as undecided on this matter.
Mr. Speaker, this bill is more, really, much more than an increase in
the debt limit. It is really a down payment on the promise that we have
made to make government smaller and more responsive to the American
people. It is crucial that we refocus government on those essential
functions that it must perform, and reconsider whether government
should be involved in any activity which it cannot do well.
We presently are involved in a great many activities, Mr. Speaker,
that we do not do well. The reason we have to
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raise the debt ceiling again is that the bureaucracy in Washington has
grown unchecked for far too long. Endlessly we have added, bloated, and
enlarged the Federal Government, so today we are going to continue to
reverse that trend by voting for a second time, Mr. Speaker, to
eliminate the Department of Commerce. This has been debated, has been
considered before with this body, and we have decided in our wisdom to
eliminate the Department of Commerce as part of the reconciliation
discussions.
In my view, the Department of Commerce is one bureaucracy that,
frankly, is not necessary. Functions of the Department overlap with 71
independent agencies of the Government. True, there are, indeed, vital
functions performed by Commerce involving trade, weather services,
statistical information, and essential components will be retained in a
more appropriate home. Other functions will be privatized, sent to the
States and localities, or terminated.
Mr. Speaker, it has been suggested that we are doing this just to put
a scalp on our belt. That is absolutely not true. We have really taken
a very close look at how this Department can be dismantled, how the
functions of that Department can be consolidated and made to work much
more efficiently, much more productively than they have in the past.
Specifically, the commerce title in the debt ceiling bill highlights
the importance of a strong trade policy, consolidates the various
activities that are now spread all over the Federal Government dealing
with trade, presents a cohesive approach to trade promotion. We
consolidate the Department of Scientific and Environmental Functions of
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, we privatize or
eliminate 40 agencies and programs, and we establish a citizens
commission on 21st century government to evaluate the entire Federal
Government, and determine how we can make this government, yes,
smaller, more productive, more efficient, and more responsive to the
American people.
Let me be clear, however, that we are not cutting just for the sake
of saving dollars. If that was the only objective, I do not think it
would be worth doing. In fact, we will be saving a great deal of
dollars as a result of this exercise. The CBO has recently revised
their estimate. We are going to save $6 billion by the elimination or
the dismantlement of the Department of Commerce. The other side
suggests we are just bloating up other parts of the government. That
could not possibly be the case if we are going to save $6 billion.
Clearly we are reducing, not enlarging the government.
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So, Mr. Speaker, I would urge support for this debt limit extension,
and for the elimination of the Department of Commerce. It is long
overdue.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from Michigan [Mr. Levin].
(Mr. LEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, the issue here today is not a balanced budget
and it is not a short-term extension to achieve it. Democrats favor an
extension to help achieve a balanced budget. Most of us are willing to
vote for a clean, short-term extension. Now, why are the Republicans
not proposing it? Why is this layered with all of these additional
proposals?
There are two reasons, Mr. Speaker. First of all, leverage on the
President. Now, look, I am in favor of pressure. But this goes beyond
pressure to try to create a pistol, and I suggest it will not work, it
will backfire. The second reason there is not a clean extension is to
satisfy some internal pressures within the Republican House Caucus. So
they have added a provision on the Department of Commerce and one on
regulatory language, a huge bill that few, if any, have read. Why are
they doing this?
The Senate Republican leadership has made clear that they will not
buy the Commerce Department provision, so you are doing this to have
some satisfaction internally within the Republican House Caucus.
The Senate is working on regulatory reform. So what the Republicans
are really doing here today is to play games, but going beyond it and
playing with fire. What they are going to do through this, if it were
ever to succeed, is to limit the management ability of the President to
manage, to manage this situation, to manage this debt.
Secretary Rubin has said very clearly, this legislation severely
limits options the Secretary has under current law to relieve pressure
and to avert default.
Let us stop playing with fire with the debt. It would increase the
interest rates. It would increase the interest rates for people with
variable mortgages, with credit card debt. Look, what you are doing
through this kind of proposal is linking chaos in this House with
crassness. It will not work.
What you should be doing here today is joining on a bipartisan basis
to pass a short-term extension of the debt period. That is going to
happen sooner or later; let us do it now. I urge defeat of this. Let us
get to our senses and work on a bipartisan basis.
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, just in response to the gentleman's comments, it might
be good to know that the day after the Committee on Ways and Means took
the action to bring this bill to the floor, the stock market went up
some 55 points and interest rates went down. So I think the fact that
we have established a drop-dead date for negotiations to take place
between the executive and legislative branches has, in fact, had a
salutary effect on the markets and we hope to continue this.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from
Florida [Mr. McCollum], the chairman of the Subcommittee on Crime of
the Committee on the Judiciary.
(Mr. McCOLLUM asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. McCOLLUM. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, I want to talk about one of those extra things that are
on this bill, that really is not controversial in the broad sense,
because it has passed the House a number of times, including this
Congress, by overwhelming margins. It is something that really should
be enacted into law, and we have an opportunity on this debt ceiling
bill to get it down to the President in a timely fashion, which we have
not had before, and that is the reform of what is known as habeas
corpus laws to try to end the seemingly endless appeals that death row
inmates have.
Mr. Speaker, I can assure anybody who has paid attention to the death
row situation, where people have committed heinous crimes and have been
convicted and sentenced to death, that that is an abomination that
people can carry out the sentence for as much as 15 or 20 years by
procedural gimmicks.
What happens, of course, is that they get convicted, they go through
a State court appeal posture after they get sentenced to death, they go
all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States, and a court
says, the conviction is fine, the sentence is fine. They come back and
they have an opportunity to go into Federal district court and file
what is known as a habeas corpus petition and seek to get out on a
procedural matter; for example, they did not have a lawyer who
represented them properly at trial.
They then take that appeal and go all the way back to the Supreme
Court, which takes a considerable amount of time, and after the Supreme
Court denies that appeal, they can go back into Federal district court
again on some other procedural ground and appeal that, and it could go
on and on and on.
What we do in this and what the House did earlier this year, and what
is part of this bill, if we pass it today and send it to the President
and maybe get it enacted into law, we say that after your finish your
Federal appeal you can go into Federal court only one time. You have to
put all of your apples in that basket, all of your procedural
complaints and issues, and let it be decided and get on with the
carrying out of the sentence if you do not have any grounds for those.
Obviously, anybody who can provide that they are really innocent of the
crime, they are not going to have the death penalty carried out.
We have been waiting for a long, long time, years battling over this
issue. This is a perfect bill, one the President
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really has to face and sign, a short-term debt extension, to finally
get it enacted into law, the reform of habeas corpus, to end this
process of staying and keeping staying, again and again and again, the
death penalties in the State courts of this Nation. It is time to act
now, and I urge the adoption of this bill.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Connecticut [Mrs. Kennelly].
Mrs. KENNELLY asked and was give permission to revise and extend her
remarks.)
Mrs. KENNELLY. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to
H.R. 2586. As a
Member who has consistently been responsible and voted to increase the
debt ceiling, it saddens me to stand here in opposition.
We have heard all sorts of obfuscation from the majority. But let
there be no mistake, raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with
the current level of government spending, and everything to do with
financing our prior obligations--living up to our commitments. There is
no doubt that the debt ceiling will be raised in the long run. What we
should be doing here today is passing a clean temporary debt ceiling as
an interim measure to prevent default while a balanced budget agreement
can be hammered out.
The bill before us today purports to protect trust funds but it has
the practical effect of ensuring that Medicare claims won't be paid,
tax refund checks can't be cashed and our Armed Forces won't be paid.
It also strips the Secretary of the Treasury of all cash management
tools--tools that were provided Republican Secretaries of the Treasury
by Democratic Congresses. It is nothing more than an attempt to
blackmail the President and to ultimately push us closer to default. It
is irresponsible and unacceptable.
We stand here today and listen to the majority try to blame the
President for delay. But, let's look at the facts. It is November 9th,
5 weeks after the start of the fiscal year and congressional
Republicans have yet to even send their plan to the President. In 1993,
the Clinton budget plan was enacted by August. The majority talks about
getting their budget done on time, yet, they've only sent the President
3 of the 13 required appropriations bills. So let us be clear now who
is responsible for delay.
When all is said and done, the debt ceiling will be increased. We
shouldn't hold the economy or average American families hostage to a
partisan debate on a balanced budget. We should enact a clean extension
in the debt ceiling immediately.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Mica].
Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of
H.R. 2586 as chairman of
the Subcommittee on Civil Service. This bill provides important
protections for active and retired Federal workers. It protects the
integrity of the civil service retirement and disability fund and the
government securities investment fund.
Under this bill, the administration will not be able to raid these
funds in order to pretend that our national debt does not exceed the
debt limit. The civil service retirement and disability fund provides
authority to fund annuities paid under the Civil Service Retirement
System and the Federal Employees Retirement System. It is a tempting
target for the administration to raid, Mr. Speaker. In fact, it
contains about 374 billion dollars' worth of special nonmarketable
government securities that are subject to the debt limit.
Many current Federal employees invest their money in the government
securities investment fund. This is one of the three funds in which
employees can invest under the thrift savings plan. Their money is also
invested in special nonmarketable government securities subject to the
debt limit. In the past, Mr. Speaker, administrations have raided the
civil service retirement and disability fund in order to stay under the
debt limit. They have refused to invest the dollars coming into the
fund. The administration could even just tear up existing nonmarketable
securities in the fund. It has been done before.
It is also clear, Mr. Speaker, that the administration intends to
raid the civil service retirement and disability fund. I have here a
set of administration talking points that make that clear.
Mr. Speaker, the civil service retirement disability fund is already
woefully underfunded to the tune of $540 billion. Yes, Mr. Speaker,
there is already an unfunded liability of half a trillion dollars. Our
learned colleagues on the other side of the aisle screamed and hollered
when the private employers asked to be able to withdraw their excess
contributions from their employee retirement funds that were more than
125 percent funded. Yes, Mr. Speaker, they did not even want private
employers to reach into expensively funded plans. These same people now
have the gall to give the administration a free reign to raid the
retirement fund that is so woefully underfunded.
Mr. Speaker, we need to manage our public debt and to work hard to
reduce it, but allowing the administration to dip into these funds
would just be a gimmick. It is a charade. It is time to inject some
fiscal responsibility in managing the Government accounts.
I support
H.R. 2586, Mr. Speaker, because it prevents the
administration from raiding the funds behind our employee retirement
systems and behind their backs, and it makes sure their annuities are
paid.
Mr. Speaker, I insert the following information in support of my
statement.
Excerpt from Department of Treasury Talking Points, Nov. 7, 1995
Finally, by repealing the debt management features of the
law relating to the Civil Service Retirement and Disability
Fund, the bill would increase the risk of default by severely
limiting the ability of the Secretary of the Treasury to
assure that crucial government payments--including benefit
payments such as Social Security, as well as payments on the
public debt--could be made in a time of debt limit crisis.
These provisions were enacted in a Republican Administration
and reflect the widely held view that the Secretary should
have options to relieve pressure and avert default.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, before this debate gets too rough, I yield
1 minute to the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Moran] who knows something
about the subject that was just discussed.
Mr. MORAN. Mr. Speaker, in fact, I have my money in that very
retirement fund.
Mr. Speaker, first of all, it must be said that this legislation
plays politics with people's lives. It is deliberately designed to
force a default of Federal debt obligations, and specifically ties the
President's hands from being able to avert a debt ceiling crisis under
the excuse that this is supposed to save Civil Service retirees. That
provision was put in during the Reagan administration precisely to
protect the Civil Service Retirement Trust Fund. That is why it was put
there. Now it is being repealed.
Mr. Speaker, I have a letter from the Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board, dated today. This is a nonpartisan board designed to
oversee the Federal Thrift Savings Plan. This letter says that this
provision, if this bill is passed, will cost Federal retirees' $3.5
million per day, an amount that once lost, will never be recaptured. Do
not do this to Federal retirees, do not do it to Social Security
retirees. I urge defeat of this legislation.
Mr. Speaker, the letter referred to follows:
Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board,
Washington, DC, November 9, 1995.
Hon. James P. Moran, Jr.,
Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Civil Service, U.S. House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Congressman Moran: I have reviewed
H.R. 2586 which
provides for a temporary extension of the Federal debt limit.
The proposed legislation provides for the repeal, inter alia,
of 5 U.S.C. Sec. 8438(g), which was enacted on May 22, 1987,
to prevent harming Federal employees with investments in the
Thrift Savings Plan's G Fund. It was foreseen at that time
that, during periods of constraint on the issuance of
Treasury securities brought about by the debt limit, the
moneys of Federal employees in the G Fund would irretrievably
lose interest (since they could not be invested) but for this
carefully drafted, bipartisan ``make-whole'' provision. (The
enclosed letter from former Executive Director Francis
Cavanaugh forwarded the proposed legislation (not included)
to Congress in April 1987, and it was quickly enacted.)
A repeal of this provision at this time would cost Federal
employees invested in the G Fund more than $3.5 million per
day of debt limit constraint, an amount that, once lost, will
never be recaptured. That Federal employees' retirement funds
might be thus diminished is a matter of great concern to
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me and my fellow fiduciaries, as I am sure it is to you.
All of the provisions of the proposed legislation can be
enacted without harm to Federal employee' retirement funds
except for the repeal of Sec. 8438(g) (and its administrative
concomitant, Sec. 8438(h). That is, the purpose of the
proposed draft legislation can be fully met, as set forth in
its accompanying two-page explanation, with the deletion of
the words ``, and subsections (g) and (h) of section 8438 of
such title'' on page 6, lines 7 and 8. (The other provisions
to be repealed pertain to the Civil Service Trust fund;
because that fund is not owned by employees directly, their
ultimate benefit levels as derived therefrom are unaffected.)
If the bill were passed in its present form, the
fiduciaries of the Thrift Savings Plan would be obligated to
point out the needless and costly removal by Congress of a
protection for Federal employees intended to prevent debt
limit politics from impairing the integrity of their
retirement funds. (The ``make-whole'' provision of
Sec. 8438(g) has been employed on four separate occasions in
the past to restore interest otherwise lost to Federal
employees from debt limit hiatuses.)
I have sent a similar letter to Congressman John Mica. I am
asking your and his cooperation in preventing any repeal of
Sec. 8438(g) in order to safeguard Federal employees'
retirement moneys and ensure their confidence in the G Fund,
which, at $21.5 billion currently, comprises approximately
\2/3\ of total Thrift Savings Plan investments.
Sincerely,
Roger W. Mehle,
Executive Director.
Enclosure.
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Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board,
Washington, DC, April 30, 1987.
Hon. Jim Wright,
Speaker of the House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Speaker: The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment
Board respectfully submits the enclosed draft bill to prevent
the loss of interest earnings to federal employees in the
Thrift Savings Plan (Plan) which would otherwise result from
a temporary suspension of the authority of the Secretary of
the Treasury to issue public debt obligations to the Plan.
The Federal Employees' Retirement System Act of 1986 (5
U.S.C. 8401-8479) established a tax-deferred Thrift Savings
Plan for federal employees. Effective April 1, 1987, all
government and employee contributions to the Plan must be
invested in Treasury securities issued to the Government
Securities Investment Fund (GSIF) of the Plan. Since such
securities, like other Treasury debt issues, are subject to
the statutory limit on the amount of public debt outstanding,
the Secretary will be unable to issue such securities to the
GSIF after May 15 unless Congress acts on debt limit
legislation by that date.
The present temporary public debt limit of $2.3 trillion is
due to expire on May 15, 1987, on which date the debt limit
will revert to the permanent statutory ceiling of $2.1
trillion.
We understand that the Treasury Department advised Congress
today, in testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee
that the Department expects to have sufficient cash on May 15
so that an increase in the debt ceiling would not be
necessary until May 28. Nevertheless, beginning May 16 the
Treasury will be unable to issue any securities subject to
the debt limit, including securities issued to the GSIF.
Thus, if Congress does not act on debt limit legislation
prior to May 16, the GSIF will lose interest; there is no
authority for the Treasury to pay such interest at a later
date to make up for such losses.
The proposed legislation would provide the same treatment
to the Thrift Savings Plan as is now provided by law (P.L.
99-509) to the Civil Service Retirement Fund. This treatment
requires the Treasury to make up any loss of earnings to the
Fund created by a suspension of Treasury borrowing authority.
Although the bill seeks parity of treatment with the Civil
Service Retirement Fund, it is important to note that the
Thrift Savings Plan is different from the Civil Service
Retirement System (CSRS) in that the Thrift Savings Plan is a
wholly voluntary, defined contribution plan; whereas CSRS is
a mandatory, defined benefit plan. CSRS plan benefits do not
depend directly on the amount of the Fund's interest
earnings. The employer-employee contributions to the Thrift
Savings Plan, although held
in the custody of the Treasury Department, actually belong
to the individual employees. Accordingly, Congress intended
that the Thrift Investment Board be a financially independent
agency and exempted the Board from the appropriations
process, the budget, and the controls of the Executive Office
of the President which apply to other federal agencies. Yet,
perhaps inadvertently, Congress did not insulate the Board or
the Plan from the constraints of the public debt limit.
The Board believes that obligations issued to the GSIF
should clearly be exempt from the public debt limit
constraints. Yet, in view of the urgent need for timely
legislative action before May 15, we are requesting only that
the Plan be accorded the same treatment as the Civil Service
Retirement Fund.
Federal employees have been urged to deposit their funds in
the Thrift Savings Plan upon the representation that such
funds will be safely invested in government securities with a
guaranteed rate of return based on a prescribed statutory
interest rate formula. The Board has an obligation to federal
employees to make every effort to see that this commitment is
honored. Now, at the very beginning of the Plan, it is
especially important that there be no question as to the
integrity of the government's representation as to such
investments. In order to prevent unnecessary fear and
confusion on this point, we urge Congress to act on the
enclosed bill as soon as possible and before any suspension
of Treasury borrowing authority occurs.
We are sending a similar letter to the President of the
Senate. Copies have been sent to the Director of the Office
of Management and Budget.
Sincerely,
Francis X. Cavanaugh,
Executive Director.
Enclosure.
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Summary of the Bill
The purpose of the bill is to ensure that the federal
employees' Thrift Savings Plan (Plan) does not suffer a loss
of earnings in its Government Securities Investment Fund in
the event of a temporary suspension of borrowing authority of
the United States Treasury Department, due to the statutory
public debt limit.
The bill provides that, in the event the Secretary of the
Treasury suspends additional issuance of Treasury securities
to the Government Securities Investment Fund because such
issuance would exceed the debt limit, immediately upon
lifting of the borrowing suspension, the Secretary of the
Treasury shall issue securities to the Plan at interest rates
and maturities which will replicate the obligations that
would have been held by the Plan if the suspension had not
occurred. This ``make-whole'' relief will include the payment
of any interest the Plan loses as a result of the suspension.
Both the obligations and the interest will be determined in
accordance with the daily investment decisions made by the
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board during the
suspension period which would have been effective were it not
for the suspension.
The treatment accorded to the Plan by the bill is similar
to that accorded to the Civil Service Retirement and
Disability Fund in Section 6002 of the Omnibus Budget
Reconciliation Act of 1986, except that the bill recognizes
the statutory responsibility of the Executive Director (5
U.S.C. 8438(f)(2)(A)), rather than the Secretary of the
Treasury, to determine the amounts and maturities of the
investments in the Government Securities Investment Fund.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Stearns].
Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of this bill, but
obviously, like many, I do so with some reluctance. While I have often
opposed raising the debt ceiling, because of our efforts this bill
includes a pledge to achieve a CBO-scored balanced budget in 7 years. I
call attention to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, this pledge
is in the rule committing the President and Congress to enact in the
year 1995, the calendar year, legislation for a balanced budget by the
year 2002. It affirms the intent of Congress and the President to do
so, and it is in black and white, and it is part of this package that
we are voting on.
This, my friends, is the crux of our Contract With America. This is
why we have the responsibility today to be responsible. Do I like
raising the debt? Obviously I do not. But, for this reason, and for
this language, I intend to vote for this raising of the debt to
ultimately balance the budget. However, Mr. Speaker, what is also a
concern of mine is that without certain provisions in this bill, that
Chairman Archer made sure were in this bill, the Clinton administration
could dip into supposedly safe trust funds such as the Social Security
trust fund, the Medicare trust fund, and the Federal retiree trust
fund.
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I find this totally unacceptable and, frankly, so do the American
taxpayers. Yet the President is threatening to veto this bill because
we refuse to let the administration raid the Social Security, Medicare,
and Federal retiree trust funds. That is what the people on the other
side are saying. These trust funds should not see their assets reduced
even temporarily. It sets a bad precedent of encouraging the Treasury
Department to raid these funds. Without this amendment in the bill, the
money paid into these funds would be diverted to pay for other
services.
Mr. Speaker, this is not the American way, and this should not be
done. The American people have placed their trust in us to manage their
funds, to protect their investments. We cannot let them down.
I urge my colleagues, it is time to be responsible to pass this bill
and to pass
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a balanced budget amendment that will eliminate the need after almost
40 years of Democrat control for such legislation in the future.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Minnesota [Mr. Sabo].
(Mr. SABO asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. SABO. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for yielding me the
time.
Mr. Speaker, we should vote this bill down. We should be passing a
clean continuing resolution or a clean debt limit extension for a
reasonable time.
Why are we here today? We are here because this is the most
mismanaged legislative session I have seen in 35 years serving in
legislative office. It is November 9. The fiscal year began October 1.
I fully expected we would need a continuing resolution because the
majority would have passed appropriation bills, they would have been
vetoed in some cases, and the Congress and administration would be
negotiating. Instead, 9 of 13 bills have not passed the Congress. So we
need a continuing resolution.
Why do we need this bill on the debt ceiling? Because it is now
November. The Congress is doing what it should have been doing in July,
should have been passing its budget bill, sending it to the President,
probably vetoed, then serious negotiations occurring.
Instead, we have drifted along all session doing what was not
crucial; and here, a month and a half into the fiscal year, the House
and Senate is still dealing with the conference report. Shame on us. If
we had done our work, this bill would have been on the President's desk
before the August recess as it was 2 years ago, negotiations could have
occurred in September, maybe into mid-October, and had a solution.
Instead, total mismanagement. Mid-November, no budget bill, most of the
appropriation bills still hung up in the Congress. Instead, we find
ourselves with a debt ceiling extension, with habeas corpus and
Commerce and I do not know what all else is in here.
Mr. Speaker, we should defeat this bill.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Maryland [Mr. Hoyer].
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for yielding me
the time.
Mr. Speaker, I said yesterday that we started this Congress with the
Contract With America. There were 10 items essentially. Two out of the
first three talked about responsibility. The first item talked about
responsibility. The third item talked about personal responsibility. I
tell my friends on the Republican side of the aisle that this bill is
neither fiscally responsible nor it is personally responsible; and,
yes, we ought to be ashamed of playing with the credit of the United
States of America as we are doing.
This is not a serious attempt at responsible Government. It contains
extraneous matters unrelated to the critical issue of making sure
America pays it bills. Every American thinks its Government ought to do
that.
But that's not what we're doing today. This bill is loaded down with
unrelated provisions that have nothing to do with the problem before us
and will cause the President to veto this legislation.
Just like yesterday's continuing resolution, which the President has
also indicated he will veto, this is not a serious attempt at
responsible Government.
I am afraid that the message to Federal employees is: Don't consider
this a holiday weekend because you may not have a job next week.
The Republican leadership seems determined to close down Government
operations.
They are taking the CR and the debt limit extension down the path to
the same fate as many of the appropriations bills--stuck in the mud of
political partisanship.
This Government is not put at risk by this irresponsibility with
which we are confronted today. They want to up Social Security and
Medicare payments by $151 per recipient in this bill. That ought to be
debated fully. Habeas corpus, that may be a good bill, but it is not
subject to having an impact on the debt of the United States. Eliminate
the Commerce Department, a 200-page bill that the President disagrees
with. You put at risk the credit of the United States.
This debt limit extension measure also limits the Secretary of the
Treasury's ability to manage Federal employee investments in the thrift
savings plan as well as their retirement fund.
These provisions have nothing to do with allowing the Treasury
Department to continue to borrow money.
Auctions have already been canceled because of the Republican
leadership's failure to act.
I am gravely concerned about the impact of not passing a CR and debt
limit extension on Federal employees. They have been attacked again and
again in this Congress and now the leadership is threatening to send
them home on furlough.
Those in the Congress who claim to be Federal employee advocates and
then vote for these extreme measures are, in my opinion, undermining
the security of those Federal employees whom they claim to represent.
This is not a rhetorical issue. This is real fear for civil servants
who have families to feed and mortgages to pay. The lives of Federal
employees are once again being thrown into chaos as the Republicans
pursue their extreme agenda.
Ladies and gentlemen of this House, ladies and gentlemen of America,
this bill is a patently petty political terrorist tactic. That is what
it is. An attempt to force the President of the United States to adopt
things that you cannot get through your own Senate, not just the
Congress. This bill adopts tactics that put America as a hostage to an
extremist agenda.
Mr. HASTERT. Mr. Speaker, I ask that the gentleman's words be taken
down.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hobson). The Clerk will report the
words.
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Mr. HOYER. I would be glad to repeat them if you would like just so
they are clear on the Record.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hobson). The gentleman shall refrain
from speaking.
The Clerk will report the words.
The Clerk read as follows:
Ladies and gentlemen of this House, ladies and gentlemen of
America, this bill is a patently petty political terrorist
tactic, that is what it is, an attempt to force the President
of the United States to adopt things that you cannot get
through your own Senate, not just the Congress. This bill
adopts tactics that put America as a hostage to an extremist
agenda.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair rules that since this is not a
reference to an individual Member, that the remarks are in order.
However, the Chair would observe that there is a civility within the
House in addressing bills and Members that should be observed, and it
would be hoped that in the future that would be observed by all
Members.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the Speaker for his ruling.
The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. Hoyer] has
expired.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Pennsylvania [Mr. Walker].
Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that there is a legitimate concern about the
use of trust funds that has been mentioned earlier, and that the reason
why some who are coming to the floor are suggesting that they want to
give the administration total latitude on these issues is because, I
think, they are probably aware that the administration intends to use
the civil service retirement trust funds, the Government securities
investment fund, other cash, and perhaps even the Social Security trust
fund as the way of financing our debt into the future.
Now, we have heard discussion on the floor about the fact that we do
not want to default for the first time in history. The fact is we have
never used the Social Security trust fund for anything other than
Social Security payments at any time in history, either, and yet what
we are being told by this administration and by those defending the
administration on the floor, they are prepared, in pursuit of their
political agenda, to allow the Social Security trust fund to at some
point in the future be invaded for the purposes of paying the bills.
Now, our direction has been to try to balance the budget. We realize
that that takes a lot of hard work. We realize it has been an uphill
fight, with those who are opposed to that agenda fighting us every step
of the way to see
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to it these bills do not get passed. We realize there has been a
concerted effort to try to stop bills in other places in the Capitol
Building so that, in fact, the work cannot get completed, and now we
come down to the point where there is no longer an ability to pay the
debts that have been incurred over the last several years.
Now we are being told that the Social Security trust fund should be
put in jeopardy in the future. I would suggest that we ought to pass
the bill that is before us. Yes, it does contain a number of items in
it that we think are good for the country, such as regulatory reform,
we hope, after that amendment is adopted, habeas corpus reform, and a
number of other things. Fundamentally, what it does is allow the
President to borrow temporarily, and does so in a way that assures
protection of the trust funds.
Why do I say that we believe all this is happening? We have heard it
directly from the Department of the Treasury.
I have before me materials that indicate that the Department of the
Treasury is prepared in fact to begin using the civil service
retirement and disability fund. At a press briefing yesterday, they
outlined about $28 billion of money they are going to use, first out of
the Government securities investment fund, then out of civil service
retirement, then out of other petty cash amounts, and the next step
down the line, my friends, is the Social Security trust fund.
That is, I think, a very grave danger for us all. the way that you
can prevent that kind of problem from occurring is to vote for the bill
brought to you by the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer], assure that we
do protect the Social Security trust fund now and into the future,
assure we do have the ability to raise the debt limit enough to pay our
bills and, oh, by the way, get a couple of things done good for
America, such as eliminating a Cabinet department and giving this
Nation regulatory reform.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I am placing in the Record at this point a statement
made by the Secretary of the Treasury on the subject matter under
debate.
The referenced material is as follows:
Statement of Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin and Social Security
Commissioner Shirley S. Chater
As Trustees of the Social Security Trust Funds we want to
assure the American people that the resources of the Funds
are preserved and protected for the benefit of every American
who is now, or will in the future become, entitled to receive
Social Security benefits.
Questions have arisen recently whether, because of the
failure by Congress to increase the national debt limit, the
resources of the Funds might be used to provide funds for
governmental purposes unrelated to the payment of Social
Security benefits. This is our reply: The Social Security
Trust Funds will not be used for any purpose other than to
assure the payment of benefits to Social Security recipients.
We will continue to protect Social Security.
Furthermore, Congress should increase the statutory debt
limit in a manner so all of the government's obligations will
be paid on time. The Ways and Means Committee's bill,
however, leaves Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Supplemental
Security Income, veterans and military personnel, and
obligations such as the principal and interest on the public
debt all at risk. This is simply not acceptable.
In sum: this Administration will not use Social Security
Trust Funds for any purpose other than to assure the payment
of benefits to Social Security recipients.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Virginia [Mr. Scott].
Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the resolution, and
in particular the provision involving death row appeals.
Mr. Speaker, the provisions in this bill are different from the
provisions in the House-passed bill, and these provisions have been
sprung on us in the last 24 hours.
Mr. Speaker, the provisions of this will do nothing to reduce crime.
Death row inmates are not the ones out there robbing, raping and
murdering in the streets. There is not even anecdotal evidence these
inmates are the cause of crime in our community.
Mr. Speaker, we have not addressed the problem of innocent people
being put to death. It was reported in the New York Times this Sunday
that a man who had been on death row for 11 years in Illinois was
released after being acquitted when a subsequent trial disclosed that a
police officer had lied in the first trial.
What have we done about the police officer lying? Yesterday we had a
hearing on a bill that would limit the civil liability of the police
officer who lied, and today we consider legislation that will put the
defendant to death quicker so it will be less likely we ever could have
found out the truth.
Mr. Speaker, if we are going to do something about crime, we need to
do something different than what we have done so far this year, such as
cut funding for attorneys and death row appeals, which will create more
complications and more appeals. We have cut funding for crime
prevention and cops on the beat; cut funding for summer jobs, putting
more youth out on the streets; cut funding for college scholarships and
Head Start. All of that will increase crime.
If we really wanted to do something about crime, we would increase
the money for Head Start, summer jobs, college scholarships, crime
prevention and cops on the beat, and not insert these useless sound
bites in essential legislation.
Mr. Speaker, we should focus on the financial crisis before us and
not sneak provisions such as this through a debt ceiling resolution.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Georgia [Mr. Collins], a member of the Committee on Ways and Means.
Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the resolution by the chairman to
increase the debt limit, but I do so with some reluctance.
I hate to see us increase the debt that the taxpayers of this country
owe and that I know that our children will someday have to pay. But I
also know that if we are going to reach a balanced budget over the 7
years, as we have planned and as we have passed in both bodies, that we
will have to extend that debt limit. I understand that there is a lot
of confusion and controversy about how we are going to do that, and it
will take a couple, 2, 3 more weeks to really rectify those
differences.
So, therefore, we must increase the funding and the borrowing power
of our Government.
The thing that I like about this bill or this proposal is it will
restrict the use of trust funds. But, Mr. Speaker, you have heard the
old saying, ``A day late and a dollar short.'' Well, sir, I think we
are years late and several billon dollars short, because out of the
$4.9 trillion that we currently owe as the debt, the debt that is owed
by the taxpayers that has been created by the Congress, $1.25 trillion
of it is actually owed to trust funds, trust funds that people have
contributed to that they expect someday to receive in return.
Let me give you some of those amounts, Mr. Speaker. The Federal
employee's trust fund, some $375 billion owed by Treasury to that trust
fund; the Medicare part A trust fund, $130 billion owed by Treasury to
that trust fund; VA retirement, over $112 billion owed to that trust
fund by the Treasury; and Social Security, Mr. Speaker, some $483
billion of old age pension, part of my old age pension, owed to the
trust fund by the Treasury.
Mr. Speaker, I am including at this point in the Record a table
concerning the trust fund impact on budget results and investment
holdings as of September 30, 1995:
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TABLE 8.--TRUST FUND IMPACT ON BUDGET RESULTS AND INVESTMENT HOLDINGS AS OF SEPT. 30, 1995
[In millions of dollars]
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This month Fiscal year to date Securities held as investments,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ current fiscal year
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Classification Beginning of
Receipts Outlays Excess Receipts Outlays Excess -------------------------- Close of
This year This month this month
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Trust receipts, outlays, and
investments held:
Airport........................ 333 777 -445 6,125 7,242 -1,117 12,206 11,547 11,145
Black lung disability.......... 416 426 -46 987 987 (**) (*) (*) (*)
Federal disability insurance... 4,749 3,606 1,143 70,215 41,380 28,835 6,100 34,146 35,225
Federal employees life and
health........................ (*) -145 145 (*) -1,240 1,240 22,503 23,601 23,729
Federal employees retirement... 24,375 3,268 21,108 66,821 38,899 27,923 346,317 353,081 374,219
Federal hospital insurance..... 9,150 10,271 -1,121 114,847 114,883 -36 128,716 180,931 129,864
Federal old-age and survivors
insurance..................... 26,560 24,569 1,991 326,084 294,474 31,611 403,425 445,944 147,947
Federal supplementary medical
insurance..................... 1,746 5,903 -4,157 58,169 65,213 -7,044 21,489 17,675 13,513
Highways....................... 2,115 2,340 -226 23,613 22,688 925 17,694 8,846 8,531
Military advances.............. 967 1,314 -347 12,469 13,417 -948 (*) (*) (*)
Railroad retirement............ 451 675 -224 9,093 7,924 1,169 12,203 14,063 14,440
Military retirement............ 918 2,386 -1,468 34,624 27,797 6,827 105,367 114,320 112,963
Unemployment................... 336 1,801 -1,465 32,820 25,282 7,539 39,788 48,660 47,141
Veterans life insurance........ 23 110 -86 1,356 1,231 126 13,477 13,690 13,606
All other trust................ 525 555 -30 6,056 4,346 1,710 12,317 14,180 14,060
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Total trust fund receipts
and outlays and
investments held from
Table 6-D................. 72,665 57,893 14,772 763,281 664,521 98,760 1,151,601 1,240,682 1,256,385
Less Interfund transactions.... 27,150 27,150 ........... 212,849 212,849 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Trust fund receipts and
outlays on the basis of
Tables 4 and 5............ 45,515 30,742 14,772 550,432 451,671 98,760 ........... ........... ...........
====================================================================================================================
Total Federal fund receipts
and outlays............... 100,994 108,480 -7,486 835,221 1,097,794 262,573 ........... ........... ...........
Less Interfund transactions.... 443 443 (*) 975 975 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Federal fund receipts and
outlays on the basis of
Tables 4 and 5............ 100,551 108,037 -7,486 834,245 1,096,819 -262,573 ........... ........... ...........
====================================================================================================================
Less: Offsetting proprietary
receipts...................... 2,846 2,846 (*) 34,101 34,101 (*) ........... ........... ...........
====================================================================================================================
Net budget receipts and
outlays................... 143,219 135,933 7,286 1,350,576 1,514,389 -163,813 ........... ........... ...........
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*No transactions.
Note: Interfund receipts and outlays are transactions between Federal funds and trust funds such as Federal payments and contributions, and interest and
profits on investments in Federal securities. They have no net effect on overall budget receipts and outlays since the receipts side of such
transactions is offset against budget outlays. In this table, Interfund receipts are shown as an adjustment to arrive at total receipts and outlays of
trust funds respectively. Details may not add to totals due to rounding.
Source: U.S. Treasury, final monthly Treasury statement of receipts and outlays, September 1995.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Michigan [Mr. Conyers].
(Mr. CONYERS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, first, my thanks to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Gibbons] for his courtesies and tenacity in this debate.
Members of the committee, it is pathetic that in a several hundred
page bill that was delivered to the Democrats on the Judiciary at 10:45
a.m. this morning, 27 pages of habeas corpus reform of the Senate's
that we have never seen, never read, never discussed, never debated,
never.
Why? This is the short-term debt ceiling limitation bill. What in
God's name is habeas corpus doing in this provision? You can pass it,
Republicans, anyway separately, I guess. You have been rolling all the
votes here for 10 months. But why stick it in overnight? Is there some
logic that this could be happening here in the most democratic forum,
the most democratic, fairest parliamentary system that we have in the
Federal Government?
But worse than that, this provision limits review in other habeas
cases. And my colleagues who have been so concerned about civil rights
violations by Federal law enforcement, read Ruby Ridge and Waco, that
now they want to leave Federal law enforcement and judges with no way
to protect against overzealous Federal law officers who may not have
acted lawfully.
It is pathetic that habeas reform has been tucked away in the debt
ceiling package. Habeas reform has absolutely nothing to do with short-
term debt and I cannot help but wonder why the Republicans, who control
both Houses of Congress need to attempt to pass habeas reform in this
underhanded manner.
My colleagues should make no mistake, this so-called habeas reform
bill does not reform habeas corpus law, it all but eliminates Federal
appeals in death penalty cases.
This bill will also limit review in other habeas cases. My colleagues
on the right who have been so concerned about civil rights violations
by Federal law enforcement officers may find that they are left with no
remedy when a lower court judge finds that those overzealous Federal
officers acted l
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TEMPORARY INCREASE IN THE STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the rule, I call up the bill
(
H.R. 2586) to provide for a temporary increase in the public debt
limit, and for other purposes, and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 258, the
gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. McCrery] will be recognized for 30
minutes, and the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Gibbons] will be
recognized for 30 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. McCrery].
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the subject of this bill, of course, is a short-term
extension of the Nation's debt limit. This short-term extension is
intended to provide an orderly process, with sufficient time for the
Congress and the President to consider the balanced budget bill that
will shortly be sent to the President. It is now clear that some type
of pressure must be applied to bring the differing views together and
to resolve this problem.
Mr. Speaker,
H.R. 2586 would temporarily increase the statutory limit
on the public debt to $4.967 trillion. It would do so until December
12, 1995. Under the bill, the limit would then revert to $4.8 trillion.
H.R. 2586 also ensures the financial integrity of Government trust
funds invested in Government debt obligations subject to the debt
limit.
Mr. Speaker, this bill today is necessary because the Congress, the
legislative branch, under our Constitution, is responsible for
authorizing any debt to be incurred by the U.S. Government. That is an
obligation which we must take very seriously, and consider very
carefully. Some in this Chamber are reluctant to increase the Nation's
debt limit at all. I understand that, Mr. Speaker.
However, we all recognize that this Government has made commitments
and entered into obligations that must eventually be paid, so in an
effort to accommodate those obligations and in an effort to accommodate
this body and the executive branch with time to deliberate matters of
great importance to the country, including balancing this Nation's
budget in 7 years, this bill comes to us today. We believe this bill is
not only necessary, but entirely appropriate, and we will get into more
of the details as the debate continues.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, my fine and much-admired friend, the gentleman from
Louisiana, has stated some of this bill, but perhaps he knows more
about it than I do. He says that it is just a temporary legislation.
The first page or so is temporary, but the other 400-and-some pages in
this bill, and the pages that will perhaps be adopted here by
additional amendments, are not temporary legislation. They are very
permanent legislation. They do drastic things to this U.S. Government.
They do it without debate, without consideration, or anything else.
The only reason we are here at this late hour and under this kind of
confusing circumstances is because the Republicans have not been able
to get their act together, to get their majority control together, and
to do the things that should have been done. We are here on November 9
to do the work that should have been done in July of this same year.
The Republicans keep howling and screaming that the President will
not bargain with them, but how, Mr. Speaker, can the President bargain
with them? They have no budget bill. They have not even had a meeting
on their budget bill in 2 weeks. I know. I am a conferee. I have not
even gotten a notice, or, as one Member said, a postcard about a
meeting of the conferees to iron out the differences in the budget
resolution. We are about 4 months behind on the budget, the Congress
is, because the Republicans cannot muster a majority on their side to
get anything done.
We are here at this late hour attempting to blackmail the President
into signing something that he will never sign. The President is not
subject to blackmail. He has enough sense not to give in to that kind
of treatment. He is not going to sign this ridiculous trash here, most
of which is only put together, as the gentleman from Louisiana said,
temporarily, so they can get enough votes together to get this thing
through the House. They are going to drop all these amendments. Their
Members ought to understand that. None of this is ever going to become
law. It is only here so that the Republicans can be coerced or bribed
or twisted their arms or whatever you want to call it to vote for this
thing. It is not going to happen.
It is a terrible way to run the Government. It is a terrible
reflection upon the Republican Party that they cannot do a simple
thing, which is strike out one figure in a piece of legislation and add
another figure. That is all that is here. We have done it hundreds of
times in the years that I have been here without all of this rankle,
all of this other garbage that has been added to it.
Mr. Speaker, this is a very, very poor and disastrous way to run the
Government. It is a terrible reflection upon the Republican Party. We
Democrats do not have control of this body. We do not set the agenda.
We do not have the ability to produce a majority vote. It is all within
their power. It is all within their ability. It is all within their
responsibility. They cannot get up here and pretend that it is
anybody's responsibility except theirs.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, it is with a great deal of pleasure that I
yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger], one
of the most distinguished Members of the Chamber, and chairman of the
Committee on Government Reform and Oversight.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman very much for
yielding time to me.
I guess we will have to put the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Gibbons]
as undecided on this matter.
Mr. Speaker, this bill is more, really, much more than an increase in
the debt limit. It is really a down payment on the promise that we have
made to make government smaller and more responsive to the American
people. It is crucial that we refocus government on those essential
functions that it must perform, and reconsider whether government
should be involved in any activity which it cannot do well.
We presently are involved in a great many activities, Mr. Speaker,
that we do not do well. The reason we have to
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raise the debt ceiling again is that the bureaucracy in Washington has
grown unchecked for far too long. Endlessly we have added, bloated, and
enlarged the Federal Government, so today we are going to continue to
reverse that trend by voting for a second time, Mr. Speaker, to
eliminate the Department of Commerce. This has been debated, has been
considered before with this body, and we have decided in our wisdom to
eliminate the Department of Commerce as part of the reconciliation
discussions.
In my view, the Department of Commerce is one bureaucracy that,
frankly, is not necessary. Functions of the Department overlap with 71
independent agencies of the Government. True, there are, indeed, vital
functions performed by Commerce involving trade, weather services,
statistical information, and essential components will be retained in a
more appropriate home. Other functions will be privatized, sent to the
States and localities, or terminated.
Mr. Speaker, it has been suggested that we are doing this just to put
a scalp on our belt. That is absolutely not true. We have really taken
a very close look at how this Department can be dismantled, how the
functions of that Department can be consolidated and made to work much
more efficiently, much more productively than they have in the past.
Specifically, the commerce title in the debt ceiling bill highlights
the importance of a strong trade policy, consolidates the various
activities that are now spread all over the Federal Government dealing
with trade, presents a cohesive approach to trade promotion. We
consolidate the Department of Scientific and Environmental Functions of
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, we privatize or
eliminate 40 agencies and programs, and we establish a citizens
commission on 21st century government to evaluate the entire Federal
Government, and determine how we can make this government, yes,
smaller, more productive, more efficient, and more responsive to the
American people.
Let me be clear, however, that we are not cutting just for the sake
of saving dollars. If that was the only objective, I do not think it
would be worth doing. In fact, we will be saving a great deal of
dollars as a result of this exercise. The CBO has recently revised
their estimate. We are going to save $6 billion by the elimination or
the dismantlement of the Department of Commerce. The other side
suggests we are just bloating up other parts of the government. That
could not possibly be the case if we are going to save $6 billion.
Clearly we are reducing, not enlarging the government.
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So, Mr. Speaker, I would urge support for this debt limit extension,
and for the elimination of the Department of Commerce. It is long
overdue.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from Michigan [Mr. Levin].
(Mr. LEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, the issue here today is not a balanced budget
and it is not a short-term extension to achieve it. Democrats favor an
extension to help achieve a balanced budget. Most of us are willing to
vote for a clean, short-term extension. Now, why are the Republicans
not proposing it? Why is this layered with all of these additional
proposals?
There are two reasons, Mr. Speaker. First of all, leverage on the
President. Now, look, I am in favor of pressure. But this goes beyond
pressure to try to create a pistol, and I suggest it will not work, it
will backfire. The second reason there is not a clean extension is to
satisfy some internal pressures within the Republican House Caucus. So
they have added a provision on the Department of Commerce and one on
regulatory language, a huge bill that few, if any, have read. Why are
they doing this?
The Senate Republican leadership has made clear that they will not
buy the Commerce Department provision, so you are doing this to have
some satisfaction internally within the Republican House Caucus.
The Senate is working on regulatory reform. So what the Republicans
are really doing here today is to play games, but going beyond it and
playing with fire. What they are going to do through this, if it were
ever to succeed, is to limit the management ability of the President to
manage, to manage this situation, to manage this debt.
Secretary Rubin has said very clearly, this legislation severely
limits options the Secretary has under current law to relieve pressure
and to avert default.
Let us stop playing with fire with the debt. It would increase the
interest rates. It would increase the interest rates for people with
variable mortgages, with credit card debt. Look, what you are doing
through this kind of proposal is linking chaos in this House with
crassness. It will not work.
What you should be doing here today is joining on a bipartisan basis
to pass a short-term extension of the debt period. That is going to
happen sooner or later; let us do it now. I urge defeat of this. Let us
get to our senses and work on a bipartisan basis.
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, just in response to the gentleman's comments, it might
be good to know that the day after the Committee on Ways and Means took
the action to bring this bill to the floor, the stock market went up
some 55 points and interest rates went down. So I think the fact that
we have established a drop-dead date for negotiations to take place
between the executive and legislative branches has, in fact, had a
salutary effect on the markets and we hope to continue this.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from
Florida [Mr. McCollum], the chairman of the Subcommittee on Crime of
the Committee on the Judiciary.
(Mr. McCOLLUM asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. McCOLLUM. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, I want to talk about one of those extra things that are
on this bill, that really is not controversial in the broad sense,
because it has passed the House a number of times, including this
Congress, by overwhelming margins. It is something that really should
be enacted into law, and we have an opportunity on this debt ceiling
bill to get it down to the President in a timely fashion, which we have
not had before, and that is the reform of what is known as habeas
corpus laws to try to end the seemingly endless appeals that death row
inmates have.
Mr. Speaker, I can assure anybody who has paid attention to the death
row situation, where people have committed heinous crimes and have been
convicted and sentenced to death, that that is an abomination that
people can carry out the sentence for as much as 15 or 20 years by
procedural gimmicks.
What happens, of course, is that they get convicted, they go through
a State court appeal posture after they get sentenced to death, they go
all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States, and a court
says, the conviction is fine, the sentence is fine. They come back and
they have an opportunity to go into Federal district court and file
what is known as a habeas corpus petition and seek to get out on a
procedural matter; for example, they did not have a lawyer who
represented them properly at trial.
They then take that appeal and go all the way back to the Supreme
Court, which takes a considerable amount of time, and after the Supreme
Court denies that appeal, they can go back into Federal district court
again on some other procedural ground and appeal that, and it could go
on and on and on.
What we do in this and what the House did earlier this year, and what
is part of this bill, if we pass it today and send it to the President
and maybe get it enacted into law, we say that after your finish your
Federal appeal you can go into Federal court only one time. You have to
put all of your apples in that basket, all of your procedural
complaints and issues, and let it be decided and get on with the
carrying out of the sentence if you do not have any grounds for those.
Obviously, anybody who can provide that they are really innocent of the
crime, they are not going to have the death penalty carried out.
We have been waiting for a long, long time, years battling over this
issue. This is a perfect bill, one the President
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really has to face and sign, a short-term debt extension, to finally
get it enacted into law, the reform of habeas corpus, to end this
process of staying and keeping staying, again and again and again, the
death penalties in the State courts of this Nation. It is time to act
now, and I urge the adoption of this bill.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Connecticut [Mrs. Kennelly].
Mrs. KENNELLY asked and was give permission to revise and extend her
remarks.)
Mrs. KENNELLY. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to
H.R. 2586. As a
Member who has consistently been responsible and voted to increase the
debt ceiling, it saddens me to stand here in opposition.
We have heard all sorts of obfuscation from the majority. But let
there be no mistake, raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with
the current level of government spending, and everything to do with
financing our prior obligations--living up to our commitments. There is
no doubt that the debt ceiling will be raised in the long run. What we
should be doing here today is passing a clean temporary debt ceiling as
an interim measure to prevent default while a balanced budget agreement
can be hammered out.
The bill before us today purports to protect trust funds but it has
the practical effect of ensuring that Medicare claims won't be paid,
tax refund checks can't be cashed and our Armed Forces won't be paid.
It also strips the Secretary of the Treasury of all cash management
tools--tools that were provided Republican Secretaries of the Treasury
by Democratic Congresses. It is nothing more than an attempt to
blackmail the President and to ultimately push us closer to default. It
is irresponsible and unacceptable.
We stand here today and listen to the majority try to blame the
President for delay. But, let's look at the facts. It is November 9th,
5 weeks after the start of the fiscal year and congressional
Republicans have yet to even send their plan to the President. In 1993,
the Clinton budget plan was enacted by August. The majority talks about
getting their budget done on time, yet, they've only sent the President
3 of the 13 required appropriations bills. So let us be clear now who
is responsible for delay.
When all is said and done, the debt ceiling will be increased. We
shouldn't hold the economy or average American families hostage to a
partisan debate on a balanced budget. We should enact a clean extension
in the debt ceiling immediately.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Mica].
Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of
H.R. 2586 as chairman of
the Subcommittee on Civil Service. This bill provides important
protections for active and retired Federal workers. It protects the
integrity of the civil service retirement and disability fund and the
government securities investment fund.
Under this bill, the administration will not be able to raid these
funds in order to pretend that our national debt does not exceed the
debt limit. The civil service retirement and disability fund provides
authority to fund annuities paid under the Civil Service Retirement
System and the Federal Employees Retirement System. It is a tempting
target for the administration to raid, Mr. Speaker. In fact, it
contains about 374 billion dollars' worth of special nonmarketable
government securities that are subject to the debt limit.
Many current Federal employees invest their money in the government
securities investment fund. This is one of the three funds in which
employees can invest under the thrift savings plan. Their money is also
invested in special nonmarketable government securities subject to the
debt limit. In the past, Mr. Speaker, administrations have raided the
civil service retirement and disability fund in order to stay under the
debt limit. They have refused to invest the dollars coming into the
fund. The administration could even just tear up existing nonmarketable
securities in the fund. It has been done before.
It is also clear, Mr. Speaker, that the administration intends to
raid the civil service retirement and disability fund. I have here a
set of administration talking points that make that clear.
Mr. Speaker, the civil service retirement disability fund is already
woefully underfunded to the tune of $540 billion. Yes, Mr. Speaker,
there is already an unfunded liability of half a trillion dollars. Our
learned colleagues on the other side of the aisle screamed and hollered
when the private employers asked to be able to withdraw their excess
contributions from their employee retirement funds that were more than
125 percent funded. Yes, Mr. Speaker, they did not even want private
employers to reach into expensively funded plans. These same people now
have the gall to give the administration a free reign to raid the
retirement fund that is so woefully underfunded.
Mr. Speaker, we need to manage our public debt and to work hard to
reduce it, but allowing the administration to dip into these funds
would just be a gimmick. It is a charade. It is time to inject some
fiscal responsibility in managing the Government accounts.
I support
H.R. 2586, Mr. Speaker, because it prevents the
administration from raiding the funds behind our employee retirement
systems and behind their backs, and it makes sure their annuities are
paid.
Mr. Speaker, I insert the following information in support of my
statement.
Excerpt from Department of Treasury Talking Points, Nov. 7, 1995
Finally, by repealing the debt management features of the
law relating to the Civil Service Retirement and Disability
Fund, the bill would increase the risk of default by severely
limiting the ability of the Secretary of the Treasury to
assure that crucial government payments--including benefit
payments such as Social Security, as well as payments on the
public debt--could be made in a time of debt limit crisis.
These provisions were enacted in a Republican Administration
and reflect the widely held view that the Secretary should
have options to relieve pressure and avert default.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, before this debate gets too rough, I yield
1 minute to the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Moran] who knows something
about the subject that was just discussed.
Mr. MORAN. Mr. Speaker, in fact, I have my money in that very
retirement fund.
Mr. Speaker, first of all, it must be said that this legislation
plays politics with people's lives. It is deliberately designed to
force a default of Federal debt obligations, and specifically ties the
President's hands from being able to avert a debt ceiling crisis under
the excuse that this is supposed to save Civil Service retirees. That
provision was put in during the Reagan administration precisely to
protect the Civil Service Retirement Trust Fund. That is why it was put
there. Now it is being repealed.
Mr. Speaker, I have a letter from the Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board, dated today. This is a nonpartisan board designed to
oversee the Federal Thrift Savings Plan. This letter says that this
provision, if this bill is passed, will cost Federal retirees' $3.5
million per day, an amount that once lost, will never be recaptured. Do
not do this to Federal retirees, do not do it to Social Security
retirees. I urge defeat of this legislation.
Mr. Speaker, the letter referred to follows:
Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board,
Washington, DC, November 9, 1995.
Hon. James P. Moran, Jr.,
Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Civil Service, U.S. House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Congressman Moran: I have reviewed
H.R. 2586 which
provides for a temporary extension of the Federal debt limit.
The proposed legislation provides for the repeal, inter alia,
of 5 U.S.C. Sec. 8438(g), which was enacted on May 22, 1987,
to prevent harming Federal employees with investments in the
Thrift Savings Plan's G Fund. It was foreseen at that time
that, during periods of constraint on the issuance of
Treasury securities brought about by the debt limit, the
moneys of Federal employees in the G Fund would irretrievably
lose interest (since they could not be invested) but for this
carefully drafted, bipartisan ``make-whole'' provision. (The
enclosed letter from former Executive Director Francis
Cavanaugh forwarded the proposed legislation (not included)
to Congress in April 1987, and it was quickly enacted.)
A repeal of this provision at this time would cost Federal
employees invested in the G Fund more than $3.5 million per
day of debt limit constraint, an amount that, once lost, will
never be recaptured. That Federal employees' retirement funds
might be thus diminished is a matter of great concern to
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me and my fellow fiduciaries, as I am sure it is to you.
All of the provisions of the proposed legislation can be
enacted without harm to Federal employee' retirement funds
except for the repeal of Sec. 8438(g) (and its administrative
concomitant, Sec. 8438(h). That is, the purpose of the
proposed draft legislation can be fully met, as set forth in
its accompanying two-page explanation, with the deletion of
the words ``, and subsections (g) and (h) of section 8438 of
such title'' on page 6, lines 7 and 8. (The other provisions
to be repealed pertain to the Civil Service Trust fund;
because that fund is not owned by employees directly, their
ultimate benefit levels as derived therefrom are unaffected.)
If the bill were passed in its present form, the
fiduciaries of the Thrift Savings Plan would be obligated to
point out the needless and costly removal by Congress of a
protection for Federal employees intended to prevent debt
limit politics from impairing the integrity of their
retirement funds. (The ``make-whole'' provision of
Sec. 8438(g) has been employed on four separate occasions in
the past to restore interest otherwise lost to Federal
employees from debt limit hiatuses.)
I have sent a similar letter to Congressman John Mica. I am
asking your and his cooperation in preventing any repeal of
Sec. 8438(g) in order to safeguard Federal employees'
retirement moneys and ensure their confidence in the G Fund,
which, at $21.5 billion currently, comprises approximately
\2/3\ of total Thrift Savings Plan investments.
Sincerely,
Roger W. Mehle,
Executive Director.
Enclosure.
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Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board,
Washington, DC, April 30, 1987.
Hon. Jim Wright,
Speaker of the House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Speaker: The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment
Board respectfully submits the enclosed draft bill to prevent
the loss of interest earnings to federal employees in the
Thrift Savings Plan (Plan) which would otherwise result from
a temporary suspension of the authority of the Secretary of
the Treasury to issue public debt obligations to the Plan.
The Federal Employees' Retirement System Act of 1986 (5
U.S.C. 8401-8479) established a tax-deferred Thrift Savings
Plan for federal employees. Effective April 1, 1987, all
government and employee contributions to the Plan must be
invested in Treasury securities issued to the Government
Securities Investment Fund (GSIF) of the Plan. Since such
securities, like other Treasury debt issues, are subject to
the statutory limit on the amount of public debt outstanding,
the Secretary will be unable to issue such securities to the
GSIF after May 15 unless Congress acts on debt limit
legislation by that date.
The present temporary public debt limit of $2.3 trillion is
due to expire on May 15, 1987, on which date the debt limit
will revert to the permanent statutory ceiling of $2.1
trillion.
We understand that the Treasury Department advised Congress
today, in testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee
that the Department expects to have sufficient cash on May 15
so that an increase in the debt ceiling would not be
necessary until May 28. Nevertheless, beginning May 16 the
Treasury will be unable to issue any securities subject to
the debt limit, including securities issued to the GSIF.
Thus, if Congress does not act on debt limit legislation
prior to May 16, the GSIF will lose interest; there is no
authority for the Treasury to pay such interest at a later
date to make up for such losses.
The proposed legislation would provide the same treatment
to the Thrift Savings Plan as is now provided by law (P.L.
99-509) to the Civil Service Retirement Fund. This treatment
requires the Treasury to make up any loss of earnings to the
Fund created by a suspension of Treasury borrowing authority.
Although the bill seeks parity of treatment with the Civil
Service Retirement Fund, it is important to note that the
Thrift Savings Plan is different from the Civil Service
Retirement System (CSRS) in that the Thrift Savings Plan is a
wholly voluntary, defined contribution plan; whereas CSRS is
a mandatory, defined benefit plan. CSRS plan benefits do not
depend directly on the amount of the Fund's interest
earnings. The employer-employee contributions to the Thrift
Savings Plan, although held
in the custody of the Treasury Department, actually belong
to the individual employees. Accordingly, Congress intended
that the Thrift Investment Board be a financially independent
agency and exempted the Board from the appropriations
process, the budget, and the controls of the Executive Office
of the President which apply to other federal agencies. Yet,
perhaps inadvertently, Congress did not insulate the Board or
the Plan from the constraints of the public debt limit.
The Board believes that obligations issued to the GSIF
should clearly be exempt from the public debt limit
constraints. Yet, in view of the urgent need for timely
legislative action before May 15, we are requesting only that
the Plan be accorded the same treatment as the Civil Service
Retirement Fund.
Federal employees have been urged to deposit their funds in
the Thrift Savings Plan upon the representation that such
funds will be safely invested in government securities with a
guaranteed rate of return based on a prescribed statutory
interest rate formula. The Board has an obligation to federal
employees to make every effort to see that this commitment is
honored. Now, at the very beginning of the Plan, it is
especially important that there be no question as to the
integrity of the government's representation as to such
investments. In order to prevent unnecessary fear and
confusion on this point, we urge Congress to act on the
enclosed bill as soon as possible and before any suspension
of Treasury borrowing authority occurs.
We are sending a similar letter to the President of the
Senate. Copies have been sent to the Director of the Office
of Management and Budget.
Sincerely,
Francis X. Cavanaugh,
Executive Director.
Enclosure.
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Summary of the Bill
The purpose of the bill is to ensure that the federal
employees' Thrift Savings Plan (Plan) does not suffer a loss
of earnings in its Government Securities Investment Fund in
the event of a temporary suspension of borrowing authority of
the United States Treasury Department, due to the statutory
public debt limit.
The bill provides that, in the event the Secretary of the
Treasury suspends additional issuance of Treasury securities
to the Government Securities Investment Fund because such
issuance would exceed the debt limit, immediately upon
lifting of the borrowing suspension, the Secretary of the
Treasury shall issue securities to the Plan at interest rates
and maturities which will replicate the obligations that
would have been held by the Plan if the suspension had not
occurred. This ``make-whole'' relief will include the payment
of any interest the Plan loses as a result of the suspension.
Both the obligations and the interest will be determined in
accordance with the daily investment decisions made by the
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board during the
suspension period which would have been effective were it not
for the suspension.
The treatment accorded to the Plan by the bill is similar
to that accorded to the Civil Service Retirement and
Disability Fund in Section 6002 of the Omnibus Budget
Reconciliation Act of 1986, except that the bill recognizes
the statutory responsibility of the Executive Director (5
U.S.C. 8438(f)(2)(A)), rather than the Secretary of the
Treasury, to determine the amounts and maturities of the
investments in the Government Securities Investment Fund.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Stearns].
Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of this bill, but
obviously, like many, I do so with some reluctance. While I have often
opposed raising the debt ceiling, because of our efforts this bill
includes a pledge to achieve a CBO-scored balanced budget in 7 years. I
call attention to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, this pledge
is in the rule committing the President and Congress to enact in the
year 1995, the calendar year, legislation for a balanced budget by the
year 2002. It affirms the intent of Congress and the President to do
so, and it is in black and white, and it is part of this package that
we are voting on.
This, my friends, is the crux of our Contract With America. This is
why we have the responsibility today to be responsible. Do I like
raising the debt? Obviously I do not. But, for this reason, and for
this language, I intend to vote for this raising of the debt to
ultimately balance the budget. However, Mr. Speaker, what is also a
concern of mine is that without certain provisions in this bill, that
Chairman Archer made sure were in this bill, the Clinton administration
could dip into supposedly safe trust funds such as the Social Security
trust fund, the Medicare trust fund, and the Federal retiree trust
fund.
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I find this totally unacceptable and, frankly, so do the American
taxpayers. Yet the President is threatening to veto this bill because
we refuse to let the administration raid the Social Security, Medicare,
and Federal retiree trust funds. That is what the people on the other
side are saying. These trust funds should not see their assets reduced
even temporarily. It sets a bad precedent of encouraging the Treasury
Department to raid these funds. Without this amendment in the bill, the
money paid into these funds would be diverted to pay for other
services.
Mr. Speaker, this is not the American way, and this should not be
done. The American people have placed their trust in us to manage their
funds, to protect their investments. We cannot let them down.
I urge my colleagues, it is time to be responsible to pass this bill
and to pass
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a balanced budget amendment that will eliminate the need after almost
40 years of Democrat control for such legislation in the future.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Minnesota [Mr. Sabo].
(Mr. SABO asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. SABO. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for yielding me the
time.
Mr. Speaker, we should vote this bill down. We should be passing a
clean continuing resolution or a clean debt limit extension for a
reasonable time.
Why are we here today? We are here because this is the most
mismanaged legislative session I have seen in 35 years serving in
legislative office. It is November 9. The fiscal year began October 1.
I fully expected we would need a continuing resolution because the
majority would have passed appropriation bills, they would have been
vetoed in some cases, and the Congress and administration would be
negotiating. Instead, 9 of 13 bills have not passed the Congress. So we
need a continuing resolution.
Why do we need this bill on the debt ceiling? Because it is now
November. The Congress is doing what it should have been doing in July,
should have been passing its budget bill, sending it to the President,
probably vetoed, then serious negotiations occurring.
Instead, we have drifted along all session doing what was not
crucial; and here, a month and a half into the fiscal year, the House
and Senate is still dealing with the conference report. Shame on us. If
we had done our work, this bill would have been on the President's desk
before the August recess as it was 2 years ago, negotiations could have
occurred in September, maybe into mid-October, and had a solution.
Instead, total mismanagement. Mid-November, no budget bill, most of the
appropriation bills still hung up in the Congress. Instead, we find
ourselves with a debt ceiling extension, with habeas corpus and
Commerce and I do not know what all else is in here.
Mr. Speaker, we should defeat this bill.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Maryland [Mr. Hoyer].
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for yielding me
the time.
Mr. Speaker, I said yesterday that we started this Congress with the
Contract With America. There were 10 items essentially. Two out of the
first three talked about responsibility. The first item talked about
responsibility. The third item talked about personal responsibility. I
tell my friends on the Republican side of the aisle that this bill is
neither fiscally responsible nor it is personally responsible; and,
yes, we ought to be ashamed of playing with the credit of the United
States of America as we are doing.
This is not a serious attempt at responsible Government. It contains
extraneous matters unrelated to the critical issue of making sure
America pays it bills. Every American thinks its Government ought to do
that.
But that's not what we're doing today. This bill is loaded down with
unrelated provisions that have nothing to do with the problem before us
and will cause the President to veto this legislation.
Just like yesterday's continuing resolution, which the President has
also indicated he will veto, this is not a serious attempt at
responsible Government.
I am afraid that the message to Federal employees is: Don't consider
this a holiday weekend because you may not have a job next week.
The Republican leadership seems determined to close down Government
operations.
They are taking the CR and the debt limit extension down the path to
the same fate as many of the appropriations bills--stuck in the mud of
political partisanship.
This Government is not put at risk by this irresponsibility with
which we are confronted today. They want to up Social Security and
Medicare payments by $151 per recipient in this bill. That ought to be
debated fully. Habeas corpus, that may be a good bill, but it is not
subject to having an impact on the debt of the United States. Eliminate
the Commerce Department, a 200-page bill that the President disagrees
with. You put at risk the credit of the United States.
This debt limit extension measure also limits the Secretary of the
Treasury's ability to manage Federal employee investments in the thrift
savings plan as well as their retirement fund.
These provisions have nothing to do with allowing the Treasury
Department to continue to borrow money.
Auctions have already been canceled because of the Republican
leadership's failure to act.
I am gravely concerned about the impact of not passing a CR and debt
limit extension on Federal employees. They have been attacked again and
again in this Congress and now the leadership is threatening to send
them home on furlough.
Those in the Congress who claim to be Federal employee advocates and
then vote for these extreme measures are, in my opinion, undermining
the security of those Federal employees whom they claim to represent.
This is not a rhetorical issue. This is real fear for civil servants
who have families to feed and mortgages to pay. The lives of Federal
employees are once again being thrown into chaos as the Republicans
pursue their extreme agenda.
Ladies and gentlemen of this House, ladies and gentlemen of America,
this bill is a patently petty political terrorist tactic. That is what
it is. An attempt to force the President of the United States to adopt
things that you cannot get through your own Senate, not just the
Congress. This bill adopts tactics that put America as a hostage to an
extremist agenda.
Mr. HASTERT. Mr. Speaker, I ask that the gentleman's words be taken
down.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hobson). The Clerk will report the
words.
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Mr. HOYER. I would be glad to repeat them if you would like just so
they are clear on the Record.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hobson). The gentleman shall refrain
from speaking.
The Clerk will report the words.
The Clerk read as follows:
Ladies and gentlemen of this House, ladies and gentlemen of
America, this bill is a patently petty political terrorist
tactic, that is what it is, an attempt to force the President
of the United States to adopt things that you cannot get
through your own Senate, not just the Congress. This bill
adopts tactics that put America as a hostage to an extremist
agenda.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair rules that since this is not a
reference to an individual Member, that the remarks are in order.
However, the Chair would observe that there is a civility within the
House in addressing bills and Members that should be observed, and it
would be hoped that in the future that would be observed by all
Members.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the Speaker for his ruling.
The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. Hoyer] has
expired.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Pennsylvania [Mr. Walker].
Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that there is a legitimate concern about the
use of trust funds that has been mentioned earlier, and that the reason
why some who are coming to the floor are suggesting that they want to
give the administration total latitude on these issues is because, I
think, they are probably aware that the administration intends to use
the civil service retirement trust funds, the Government securities
investment fund, other cash, and perhaps even the Social Security trust
fund as the way of financing our debt into the future.
Now, we have heard discussion on the floor about the fact that we do
not want to default for the first time in history. The fact is we have
never used the Social Security trust fund for anything other than
Social Security payments at any time in history, either, and yet what
we are being told by this administration and by those defending the
administration on the floor, they are prepared, in pursuit of their
political agenda, to allow the Social Security trust fund to at some
point in the future be invaded for the purposes of paying the bills.
Now, our direction has been to try to balance the budget. We realize
that that takes a lot of hard work. We realize it has been an uphill
fight, with those who are opposed to that agenda fighting us every step
of the way to see
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to it these bills do not get passed. We realize there has been a
concerted effort to try to stop bills in other places in the Capitol
Building so that, in fact, the work cannot get completed, and now we
come down to the point where there is no longer an ability to pay the
debts that have been incurred over the last several years.
Now we are being told that the Social Security trust fund should be
put in jeopardy in the future. I would suggest that we ought to pass
the bill that is before us. Yes, it does contain a number of items in
it that we think are good for the country, such as regulatory reform,
we hope, after that amendment is adopted, habeas corpus reform, and a
number of other things. Fundamentally, what it does is allow the
President to borrow temporarily, and does so in a way that assures
protection of the trust funds.
Why do I say that we believe all this is happening? We have heard it
directly from the Department of the Treasury.
I have before me materials that indicate that the Department of the
Treasury is prepared in fact to begin using the civil service
retirement and disability fund. At a press briefing yesterday, they
outlined about $28 billion of money they are going to use, first out of
the Government securities investment fund, then out of civil service
retirement, then out of other petty cash amounts, and the next step
down the line, my friends, is the Social Security trust fund.
That is, I think, a very grave danger for us all. the way that you
can prevent that kind of problem from occurring is to vote for the bill
brought to you by the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer], assure that we
do protect the Social Security trust fund now and into the future,
assure we do have the ability to raise the debt limit enough to pay our
bills and, oh, by the way, get a couple of things done good for
America, such as eliminating a Cabinet department and giving this
Nation regulatory reform.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I am placing in the Record at this point a statement
made by the Secretary of the Treasury on the subject matter under
debate.
The referenced material is as follows:
Statement of Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin and Social Security
Commissioner Shirley S. Chater
As Trustees of the Social Security Trust Funds we want to
assure the American people that the resources of the Funds
are preserved and protected for the benefit of every American
who is now, or will in the future become, entitled to receive
Social Security benefits.
Questions have arisen recently whether, because of the
failure by Congress to increase the national debt limit, the
resources of the Funds might be used to provide funds for
governmental purposes unrelated to the payment of Social
Security benefits. This is our reply: The Social Security
Trust Funds will not be used for any purpose other than to
assure the payment of benefits to Social Security recipients.
We will continue to protect Social Security.
Furthermore, Congress should increase the statutory debt
limit in a manner so all of the government's obligations will
be paid on time. The Ways and Means Committee's bill,
however, leaves Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Supplemental
Security Income, veterans and military personnel, and
obligations such as the principal and interest on the public
debt all at risk. This is simply not acceptable.
In sum: this Administration will not use Social Security
Trust Funds for any purpose other than to assure the payment
of benefits to Social Security recipients.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Virginia [Mr. Scott].
Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the resolution, and
in particular the provision involving death row appeals.
Mr. Speaker, the provisions in this bill are different from the
provisions in the House-passed bill, and these provisions have been
sprung on us in the last 24 hours.
Mr. Speaker, the provisions of this will do nothing to reduce crime.
Death row inmates are not the ones out there robbing, raping and
murdering in the streets. There is not even anecdotal evidence these
inmates are the cause of crime in our community.
Mr. Speaker, we have not addressed the problem of innocent people
being put to death. It was reported in the New York Times this Sunday
that a man who had been on death row for 11 years in Illinois was
released after being acquitted when a subsequent trial disclosed that a
police officer had lied in the first trial.
What have we done about the police officer lying? Yesterday we had a
hearing on a bill that would limit the civil liability of the police
officer who lied, and today we consider legislation that will put the
defendant to death quicker so it will be less likely we ever could have
found out the truth.
Mr. Speaker, if we are going to do something about crime, we need to
do something different than what we have done so far this year, such as
cut funding for attorneys and death row appeals, which will create more
complications and more appeals. We have cut funding for crime
prevention and cops on the beat; cut funding for summer jobs, putting
more youth out on the streets; cut funding for college scholarships and
Head Start. All of that will increase crime.
If we really wanted to do something about crime, we would increase
the money for Head Start, summer jobs, college scholarships, crime
prevention and cops on the beat, and not insert these useless sound
bites in essential legislation.
Mr. Speaker, we should focus on the financial crisis before us and
not sneak provisions such as this through a debt ceiling resolution.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Georgia [Mr. Collins], a member of the Committee on Ways and Means.
Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the resolution by the chairman to
increase the debt limit, but I do so with some reluctance.
I hate to see us increase the debt that the taxpayers of this country
owe and that I know that our children will someday have to pay. But I
also know that if we are going to reach a balanced budget over the 7
years, as we have planned and as we have passed in both bodies, that we
will have to extend that debt limit. I understand that there is a lot
of confusion and controversy about how we are going to do that, and it
will take a couple, 2, 3 more weeks to really rectify those
differences.
So, therefore, we must increase the funding and the borrowing power
of our Government.
The thing that I like about this bill or this proposal is it will
restrict the use of trust funds. But, Mr. Speaker, you have heard the
old saying, ``A day late and a dollar short.'' Well, sir, I think we
are years late and several billon dollars short, because out of the
$4.9 trillion that we currently owe as the debt, the debt that is owed
by the taxpayers that has been created by the Congress, $1.25 trillion
of it is actually owed to trust funds, trust funds that people have
contributed to that they expect someday to receive in return.
Let me give you some of those amounts, Mr. Speaker. The Federal
employee's trust fund, some $375 billion owed by Treasury to that trust
fund; the Medicare part A trust fund, $130 billion owed by Treasury to
that trust fund; VA retirement, over $112 billion owed to that trust
fund by the Treasury; and Social Security, Mr. Speaker, some $483
billion of old age pension, part of my old age pension, owed to the
trust fund by the Treasury.
Mr. Speaker, I am including at this point in the Record a table
concerning the trust fund impact on budget results and investment
holdings as of September 30, 1995:
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TABLE 8.--TRUST FUND IMPACT ON BUDGET RESULTS AND INVESTMENT HOLDINGS AS OF SEPT. 30, 1995
[In millions of dollars]
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This month Fiscal year to date Securities held as investments,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ current fiscal year
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Classification Beginning of
Receipts Outlays Excess Receipts Outlays Excess -------------------------- Close of
This year This month this month
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Trust receipts, outlays, and
investments held:
Airport........................ 333 777 -445 6,125 7,242 -1,117 12,206 11,547 11,145
Black lung disability.......... 416 426 -46 987 987 (**) (*) (*) (*)
Federal disability insurance... 4,749 3,606 1,143 70,215 41,380 28,835 6,100 34,146 35,225
Federal employees life and
health........................ (*) -145 145 (*) -1,240 1,240 22,503 23,601 23,729
Federal employees retirement... 24,375 3,268 21,108 66,821 38,899 27,923 346,317 353,081 374,219
Federal hospital insurance..... 9,150 10,271 -1,121 114,847 114,883 -36 128,716 180,931 129,864
Federal old-age and survivors
insurance..................... 26,560 24,569 1,991 326,084 294,474 31,611 403,425 445,944 147,947
Federal supplementary medical
insurance..................... 1,746 5,903 -4,157 58,169 65,213 -7,044 21,489 17,675 13,513
Highways....................... 2,115 2,340 -226 23,613 22,688 925 17,694 8,846 8,531
Military advances.............. 967 1,314 -347 12,469 13,417 -948 (*) (*) (*)
Railroad retirement............ 451 675 -224 9,093 7,924 1,169 12,203 14,063 14,440
Military retirement............ 918 2,386 -1,468 34,624 27,797 6,827 105,367 114,320 112,963
Unemployment................... 336 1,801 -1,465 32,820 25,282 7,539 39,788 48,660 47,141
Veterans life insurance........ 23 110 -86 1,356 1,231 126 13,477 13,690 13,606
All other trust................ 525 555 -30 6,056 4,346 1,710 12,317 14,180 14,060
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Total trust fund receipts
and outlays and
investments held from
Table 6-D................. 72,665 57,893 14,772 763,281 664,521 98,760 1,151,601 1,240,682 1,256,385
Less Interfund transactions.... 27,150 27,150 ........... 212,849 212,849 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Trust fund receipts and
outlays on the basis of
Tables 4 and 5............ 45,515 30,742 14,772 550,432 451,671 98,760 ........... ........... ...........
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Total Federal fund receipts
and outlays............... 100,994 108,480 -7,486 835,221 1,097,794 262,573 ........... ........... ...........
Less Interfund transactions.... 443 443 (*) 975 975 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Federal fund receipts and
outlays on the basis of
Tables 4 and 5............ 100,551 108,037 -7,486 834,245 1,096,819 -262,573 ........... ........... ...........
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Less: Offsetting proprietary
receipts...................... 2,846 2,846 (*) 34,101 34,101 (*) ........... ........... ...........
====================================================================================================================
Net budget receipts and
outlays................... 143,219 135,933 7,286 1,350,576 1,514,389 -163,813 ........... ........... ...........
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*No transactions.
Note: Interfund receipts and outlays are transactions between Federal funds and trust funds such as Federal payments and contributions, and interest and
profits on investments in Federal securities. They have no net effect on overall budget receipts and outlays since the receipts side of such
transactions is offset against budget outlays. In this table, Interfund receipts are shown as an adjustment to arrive at total receipts and outlays of
trust funds respectively. Details may not add to totals due to rounding.
Source: U.S. Treasury, final monthly Treasury statement of receipts and outlays, September 1995.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Michigan [Mr. Conyers].
(Mr. CONYERS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, first, my thanks to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Gibbons] for his courtesies and tenacity in this debate.
Members of the committee, it is pathetic that in a several hundred
page bill that was delivered to the Democrats on the Judiciary at 10:45
a.m. this morning, 27 pages of habeas corpus reform of the Senate's
that we have never seen, never read, never discussed, never debated,
never.
Why? This is the short-term debt ceiling limitation bill. What in
God's name is habeas corpus doing in this provision? You can pass it,
Republicans, anyway separately, I guess. You have been rolling all the
votes here for 10 months. But why stick it in overnight? Is there some
logic that this could be happening here in the most democratic forum,
the most democratic, fairest parliamentary system that we have in the
Federal Government?
But worse than that, this provision limits review in other habeas
cases. And my colleagues who have been so concerned about civil rights
violations by Federal law enforcement, read Ruby Ridge and Waco, that
now they want to leave Federal law enforcement and judges with no way
to protect against overzealous Federal law officers who may not have
acted lawfully.
It is pathetic that habeas reform has been tucked away in the debt
ceiling package. Habeas reform has absolutely nothing to do with short-
term debt and I cannot help but wonder why the Republicans, who control
both Houses of Congress need to attempt to pass habeas reform in this
underhanded manner.
My colleagues should make no mistake, this so-called habeas reform
bill does not reform habeas corpus law, it all but eliminates Federal
appeals in death penalty cases.
This bill will also limit review in other habeas cases. My colleagues
on the right who have been so concerned about civil rights violations
by Federal law enforcement officers may find that they are left with no
remedy when a lower court judge finds that those overzealous Federal
officers acted lawfully.
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TEMPORARY INCREASE IN THE STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT
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TEMPORARY INCREASE IN THE STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the rule, I call up the bill
(
H.R. 2586) to provide for a temporary increase in the public debt
limit, and for other purposes, and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 258, the
gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. McCrery] will be recognized for 30
minutes, and the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Gibbons] will be
recognized for 30 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. McCrery].
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the subject of this bill, of course, is a short-term
extension of the Nation's debt limit. This short-term extension is
intended to provide an orderly process, with sufficient time for the
Congress and the President to consider the balanced budget bill that
will shortly be sent to the President. It is now clear that some type
of pressure must be applied to bring the differing views together and
to resolve this problem.
Mr. Speaker,
H.R. 2586 would temporarily increase the statutory limit
on the public debt to $4.967 trillion. It would do so until December
12, 1995. Under the bill, the limit would then revert to $4.8 trillion.
H.R. 2586 also ensures the financial integrity of Government trust
funds invested in Government debt obligations subject to the debt
limit.
Mr. Speaker, this bill today is necessary because the Congress, the
legislative branch, under our Constitution, is responsible for
authorizing any debt to be incurred by the U.S. Government. That is an
obligation which we must take very seriously, and consider very
carefully. Some in this Chamber are reluctant to increase the Nation's
debt limit at all. I understand that, Mr. Speaker.
However, we all recognize that this Government has made commitments
and entered into obligations that must eventually be paid, so in an
effort to accommodate those obligations and in an effort to accommodate
this body and the executive branch with time to deliberate matters of
great importance to the country, including balancing this Nation's
budget in 7 years, this bill comes to us today. We believe this bill is
not only necessary, but entirely appropriate, and we will get into more
of the details as the debate continues.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, my fine and much-admired friend, the gentleman from
Louisiana, has stated some of this bill, but perhaps he knows more
about it than I do. He says that it is just a temporary legislation.
The first page or so is temporary, but the other 400-and-some pages in
this bill, and the pages that will perhaps be adopted here by
additional amendments, are not temporary legislation. They are very
permanent legislation. They do drastic things to this U.S. Government.
They do it without debate, without consideration, or anything else.
The only reason we are here at this late hour and under this kind of
confusing circumstances is because the Republicans have not been able
to get their act together, to get their majority control together, and
to do the things that should have been done. We are here on November 9
to do the work that should have been done in July of this same year.
The Republicans keep howling and screaming that the President will
not bargain with them, but how, Mr. Speaker, can the President bargain
with them? They have no budget bill. They have not even had a meeting
on their budget bill in 2 weeks. I know. I am a conferee. I have not
even gotten a notice, or, as one Member said, a postcard about a
meeting of the conferees to iron out the differences in the budget
resolution. We are about 4 months behind on the budget, the Congress
is, because the Republicans cannot muster a majority on their side to
get anything done.
We are here at this late hour attempting to blackmail the President
into signing something that he will never sign. The President is not
subject to blackmail. He has enough sense not to give in to that kind
of treatment. He is not going to sign this ridiculous trash here, most
of which is only put together, as the gentleman from Louisiana said,
temporarily, so they can get enough votes together to get this thing
through the House. They are going to drop all these amendments. Their
Members ought to understand that. None of this is ever going to become
law. It is only here so that the Republicans can be coerced or bribed
or twisted their arms or whatever you want to call it to vote for this
thing. It is not going to happen.
It is a terrible way to run the Government. It is a terrible
reflection upon the Republican Party that they cannot do a simple
thing, which is strike out one figure in a piece of legislation and add
another figure. That is all that is here. We have done it hundreds of
times in the years that I have been here without all of this rankle,
all of this other garbage that has been added to it.
Mr. Speaker, this is a very, very poor and disastrous way to run the
Government. It is a terrible reflection upon the Republican Party. We
Democrats do not have control of this body. We do not set the agenda.
We do not have the ability to produce a majority vote. It is all within
their power. It is all within their ability. It is all within their
responsibility. They cannot get up here and pretend that it is
anybody's responsibility except theirs.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, it is with a great deal of pleasure that I
yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger], one
of the most distinguished Members of the Chamber, and chairman of the
Committee on Government Reform and Oversight.
Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman very much for
yielding time to me.
I guess we will have to put the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Gibbons]
as undecided on this matter.
Mr. Speaker, this bill is more, really, much more than an increase in
the debt limit. It is really a down payment on the promise that we have
made to make government smaller and more responsive to the American
people. It is crucial that we refocus government on those essential
functions that it must perform, and reconsider whether government
should be involved in any activity which it cannot do well.
We presently are involved in a great many activities, Mr. Speaker,
that we do not do well. The reason we have to
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raise the debt ceiling again is that the bureaucracy in Washington has
grown unchecked for far too long. Endlessly we have added, bloated, and
enlarged the Federal Government, so today we are going to continue to
reverse that trend by voting for a second time, Mr. Speaker, to
eliminate the Department of Commerce. This has been debated, has been
considered before with this body, and we have decided in our wisdom to
eliminate the Department of Commerce as part of the reconciliation
discussions.
In my view, the Department of Commerce is one bureaucracy that,
frankly, is not necessary. Functions of the Department overlap with 71
independent agencies of the Government. True, there are, indeed, vital
functions performed by Commerce involving trade, weather services,
statistical information, and essential components will be retained in a
more appropriate home. Other functions will be privatized, sent to the
States and localities, or terminated.
Mr. Speaker, it has been suggested that we are doing this just to put
a scalp on our belt. That is absolutely not true. We have really taken
a very close look at how this Department can be dismantled, how the
functions of that Department can be consolidated and made to work much
more efficiently, much more productively than they have in the past.
Specifically, the commerce title in the debt ceiling bill highlights
the importance of a strong trade policy, consolidates the various
activities that are now spread all over the Federal Government dealing
with trade, presents a cohesive approach to trade promotion. We
consolidate the Department of Scientific and Environmental Functions of
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, we privatize or
eliminate 40 agencies and programs, and we establish a citizens
commission on 21st century government to evaluate the entire Federal
Government, and determine how we can make this government, yes,
smaller, more productive, more efficient, and more responsive to the
American people.
Let me be clear, however, that we are not cutting just for the sake
of saving dollars. If that was the only objective, I do not think it
would be worth doing. In fact, we will be saving a great deal of
dollars as a result of this exercise. The CBO has recently revised
their estimate. We are going to save $6 billion by the elimination or
the dismantlement of the Department of Commerce. The other side
suggests we are just bloating up other parts of the government. That
could not possibly be the case if we are going to save $6 billion.
Clearly we are reducing, not enlarging the government.
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So, Mr. Speaker, I would urge support for this debt limit extension,
and for the elimination of the Department of Commerce. It is long
overdue.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from Michigan [Mr. Levin].
(Mr. LEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, the issue here today is not a balanced budget
and it is not a short-term extension to achieve it. Democrats favor an
extension to help achieve a balanced budget. Most of us are willing to
vote for a clean, short-term extension. Now, why are the Republicans
not proposing it? Why is this layered with all of these additional
proposals?
There are two reasons, Mr. Speaker. First of all, leverage on the
President. Now, look, I am in favor of pressure. But this goes beyond
pressure to try to create a pistol, and I suggest it will not work, it
will backfire. The second reason there is not a clean extension is to
satisfy some internal pressures within the Republican House Caucus. So
they have added a provision on the Department of Commerce and one on
regulatory language, a huge bill that few, if any, have read. Why are
they doing this?
The Senate Republican leadership has made clear that they will not
buy the Commerce Department provision, so you are doing this to have
some satisfaction internally within the Republican House Caucus.
The Senate is working on regulatory reform. So what the Republicans
are really doing here today is to play games, but going beyond it and
playing with fire. What they are going to do through this, if it were
ever to succeed, is to limit the management ability of the President to
manage, to manage this situation, to manage this debt.
Secretary Rubin has said very clearly, this legislation severely
limits options the Secretary has under current law to relieve pressure
and to avert default.
Let us stop playing with fire with the debt. It would increase the
interest rates. It would increase the interest rates for people with
variable mortgages, with credit card debt. Look, what you are doing
through this kind of proposal is linking chaos in this House with
crassness. It will not work.
What you should be doing here today is joining on a bipartisan basis
to pass a short-term extension of the debt period. That is going to
happen sooner or later; let us do it now. I urge defeat of this. Let us
get to our senses and work on a bipartisan basis.
Mr. McCRERY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, just in response to the gentleman's comments, it might
be good to know that the day after the Committee on Ways and Means took
the action to bring this bill to the floor, the stock market went up
some 55 points and interest rates went down. So I think the fact that
we have established a drop-dead date for negotiations to take place
between the executive and legislative branches has, in fact, had a
salutary effect on the markets and we hope to continue this.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from
Florida [Mr. McCollum], the chairman of the Subcommittee on Crime of
the Committee on the Judiciary.
(Mr. McCOLLUM asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. McCOLLUM. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, I want to talk about one of those extra things that are
on this bill, that really is not controversial in the broad sense,
because it has passed the House a number of times, including this
Congress, by overwhelming margins. It is something that really should
be enacted into law, and we have an opportunity on this debt ceiling
bill to get it down to the President in a timely fashion, which we have
not had before, and that is the reform of what is known as habeas
corpus laws to try to end the seemingly endless appeals that death row
inmates have.
Mr. Speaker, I can assure anybody who has paid attention to the death
row situation, where people have committed heinous crimes and have been
convicted and sentenced to death, that that is an abomination that
people can carry out the sentence for as much as 15 or 20 years by
procedural gimmicks.
What happens, of course, is that they get convicted, they go through
a State court appeal posture after they get sentenced to death, they go
all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States, and a court
says, the conviction is fine, the sentence is fine. They come back and
they have an opportunity to go into Federal district court and file
what is known as a habeas corpus petition and seek to get out on a
procedural matter; for example, they did not have a lawyer who
represented them properly at trial.
They then take that appeal and go all the way back to the Supreme
Court, which takes a considerable amount of time, and after the Supreme
Court denies that appeal, they can go back into Federal district court
again on some other procedural ground and appeal that, and it could go
on and on and on.
What we do in this and what the House did earlier this year, and what
is part of this bill, if we pass it today and send it to the President
and maybe get it enacted into law, we say that after your finish your
Federal appeal you can go into Federal court only one time. You have to
put all of your apples in that basket, all of your procedural
complaints and issues, and let it be decided and get on with the
carrying out of the sentence if you do not have any grounds for those.
Obviously, anybody who can provide that they are really innocent of the
crime, they are not going to have the death penalty carried out.
We have been waiting for a long, long time, years battling over this
issue. This is a perfect bill, one the President
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really has to face and sign, a short-term debt extension, to finally
get it enacted into law, the reform of habeas corpus, to end this
process of staying and keeping staying, again and again and again, the
death penalties in the State courts of this Nation. It is time to act
now, and I urge the adoption of this bill.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Connecticut [Mrs. Kennelly].
Mrs. KENNELLY asked and was give permission to revise and extend her
remarks.)
Mrs. KENNELLY. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to
H.R. 2586. As a
Member who has consistently been responsible and voted to increase the
debt ceiling, it saddens me to stand here in opposition.
We have heard all sorts of obfuscation from the majority. But let
there be no mistake, raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with
the current level of government spending, and everything to do with
financing our prior obligations--living up to our commitments. There is
no doubt that the debt ceiling will be raised in the long run. What we
should be doing here today is passing a clean temporary debt ceiling as
an interim measure to prevent default while a balanced budget agreement
can be hammered out.
The bill before us today purports to protect trust funds but it has
the practical effect of ensuring that Medicare claims won't be paid,
tax refund checks can't be cashed and our Armed Forces won't be paid.
It also strips the Secretary of the Treasury of all cash management
tools--tools that were provided Republican Secretaries of the Treasury
by Democratic Congresses. It is nothing more than an attempt to
blackmail the President and to ultimately push us closer to default. It
is irresponsible and unacceptable.
We stand here today and listen to the majority try to blame the
President for delay. But, let's look at the facts. It is November 9th,
5 weeks after the start of the fiscal year and congressional
Republicans have yet to even send their plan to the President. In 1993,
the Clinton budget plan was enacted by August. The majority talks about
getting their budget done on time, yet, they've only sent the President
3 of the 13 required appropriations bills. So let us be clear now who
is responsible for delay.
When all is said and done, the debt ceiling will be increased. We
shouldn't hold the economy or average American families hostage to a
partisan debate on a balanced budget. We should enact a clean extension
in the debt ceiling immediately.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Mica].
Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of
H.R. 2586 as chairman of
the Subcommittee on Civil Service. This bill provides important
protections for active and retired Federal workers. It protects the
integrity of the civil service retirement and disability fund and the
government securities investment fund.
Under this bill, the administration will not be able to raid these
funds in order to pretend that our national debt does not exceed the
debt limit. The civil service retirement and disability fund provides
authority to fund annuities paid under the Civil Service Retirement
System and the Federal Employees Retirement System. It is a tempting
target for the administration to raid, Mr. Speaker. In fact, it
contains about 374 billion dollars' worth of special nonmarketable
government securities that are subject to the debt limit.
Many current Federal employees invest their money in the government
securities investment fund. This is one of the three funds in which
employees can invest under the thrift savings plan. Their money is also
invested in special nonmarketable government securities subject to the
debt limit. In the past, Mr. Speaker, administrations have raided the
civil service retirement and disability fund in order to stay under the
debt limit. They have refused to invest the dollars coming into the
fund. The administration could even just tear up existing nonmarketable
securities in the fund. It has been done before.
It is also clear, Mr. Speaker, that the administration intends to
raid the civil service retirement and disability fund. I have here a
set of administration talking points that make that clear.
Mr. Speaker, the civil service retirement disability fund is already
woefully underfunded to the tune of $540 billion. Yes, Mr. Speaker,
there is already an unfunded liability of half a trillion dollars. Our
learned colleagues on the other side of the aisle screamed and hollered
when the private employers asked to be able to withdraw their excess
contributions from their employee retirement funds that were more than
125 percent funded. Yes, Mr. Speaker, they did not even want private
employers to reach into expensively funded plans. These same people now
have the gall to give the administration a free reign to raid the
retirement fund that is so woefully underfunded.
Mr. Speaker, we need to manage our public debt and to work hard to
reduce it, but allowing the administration to dip into these funds
would just be a gimmick. It is a charade. It is time to inject some
fiscal responsibility in managing the Government accounts.
I support
H.R. 2586, Mr. Speaker, because it prevents the
administration from raiding the funds behind our employee retirement
systems and behind their backs, and it makes sure their annuities are
paid.
Mr. Speaker, I insert the following information in support of my
statement.
Excerpt from Department of Treasury Talking Points, Nov. 7, 1995
Finally, by repealing the debt management features of the
law relating to the Civil Service Retirement and Disability
Fund, the bill would increase the risk of default by severely
limiting the ability of the Secretary of the Treasury to
assure that crucial government payments--including benefit
payments such as Social Security, as well as payments on the
public debt--could be made in a time of debt limit crisis.
These provisions were enacted in a Republican Administration
and reflect the widely held view that the Secretary should
have options to relieve pressure and avert default.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, before this debate gets too rough, I yield
1 minute to the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Moran] who knows something
about the subject that was just discussed.
Mr. MORAN. Mr. Speaker, in fact, I have my money in that very
retirement fund.
Mr. Speaker, first of all, it must be said that this legislation
plays politics with people's lives. It is deliberately designed to
force a default of Federal debt obligations, and specifically ties the
President's hands from being able to avert a debt ceiling crisis under
the excuse that this is supposed to save Civil Service retirees. That
provision was put in during the Reagan administration precisely to
protect the Civil Service Retirement Trust Fund. That is why it was put
there. Now it is being repealed.
Mr. Speaker, I have a letter from the Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board, dated today. This is a nonpartisan board designed to
oversee the Federal Thrift Savings Plan. This letter says that this
provision, if this bill is passed, will cost Federal retirees' $3.5
million per day, an amount that once lost, will never be recaptured. Do
not do this to Federal retirees, do not do it to Social Security
retirees. I urge defeat of this legislation.
Mr. Speaker, the letter referred to follows:
Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board,
Washington, DC, November 9, 1995.
Hon. James P. Moran, Jr.,
Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Civil Service, U.S. House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Congressman Moran: I have reviewed
H.R. 2586 which
provides for a temporary extension of the Federal debt limit.
The proposed legislation provides for the repeal, inter alia,
of 5 U.S.C. Sec. 8438(g), which was enacted on May 22, 1987,
to prevent harming Federal employees with investments in the
Thrift Savings Plan's G Fund. It was foreseen at that time
that, during periods of constraint on the issuance of
Treasury securities brought about by the debt limit, the
moneys of Federal employees in the G Fund would irretrievably
lose interest (since they could not be invested) but for this
carefully drafted, bipartisan ``make-whole'' provision. (The
enclosed letter from former Executive Director Francis
Cavanaugh forwarded the proposed legislation (not included)
to Congress in April 1987, and it was quickly enacted.)
A repeal of this provision at this time would cost Federal
employees invested in the G Fund more than $3.5 million per
day of debt limit constraint, an amount that, once lost, will
never be recaptured. That Federal employees' retirement funds
might be thus diminished is a matter of great concern to
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me and my fellow fiduciaries, as I am sure it is to you.
All of the provisions of the proposed legislation can be
enacted without harm to Federal employee' retirement funds
except for the repeal of Sec. 8438(g) (and its administrative
concomitant, Sec. 8438(h). That is, the purpose of the
proposed draft legislation can be fully met, as set forth in
its accompanying two-page explanation, with the deletion of
the words ``, and subsections (g) and (h) of section 8438 of
such title'' on page 6, lines 7 and 8. (The other provisions
to be repealed pertain to the Civil Service Trust fund;
because that fund is not owned by employees directly, their
ultimate benefit levels as derived therefrom are unaffected.)
If the bill were passed in its present form, the
fiduciaries of the Thrift Savings Plan would be obligated to
point out the needless and costly removal by Congress of a
protection for Federal employees intended to prevent debt
limit politics from impairing the integrity of their
retirement funds. (The ``make-whole'' provision of
Sec. 8438(g) has been employed on four separate occasions in
the past to restore interest otherwise lost to Federal
employees from debt limit hiatuses.)
I have sent a similar letter to Congressman John Mica. I am
asking your and his cooperation in preventing any repeal of
Sec. 8438(g) in order to safeguard Federal employees'
retirement moneys and ensure their confidence in the G Fund,
which, at $21.5 billion currently, comprises approximately
\2/3\ of total Thrift Savings Plan investments.
Sincerely,
Roger W. Mehle,
Executive Director.
Enclosure.
____
Federal Retirement Thrift
Investment Board,
Washington, DC, April 30, 1987.
Hon. Jim Wright,
Speaker of the House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Speaker: The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment
Board respectfully submits the enclosed draft bill to prevent
the loss of interest earnings to federal employees in the
Thrift Savings Plan (Plan) which would otherwise result from
a temporary suspension of the authority of the Secretary of
the Treasury to issue public debt obligations to the Plan.
The Federal Employees' Retirement System Act of 1986 (5
U.S.C. 8401-8479) established a tax-deferred Thrift Savings
Plan for federal employees. Effective April 1, 1987, all
government and employee contributions to the Plan must be
invested in Treasury securities issued to the Government
Securities Investment Fund (GSIF) of the Plan. Since such
securities, like other Treasury debt issues, are subject to
the statutory limit on the amount of public debt outstanding,
the Secretary will be unable to issue such securities to the
GSIF after May 15 unless Congress acts on debt limit
legislation by that date.
The present temporary public debt limit of $2.3 trillion is
due to expire on May 15, 1987, on which date the debt limit
will revert to the permanent statutory ceiling of $2.1
trillion.
We understand that the Treasury Department advised Congress
today, in testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee
that the Department expects to have sufficient cash on May 15
so that an increase in the debt ceiling would not be
necessary until May 28. Nevertheless, beginning May 16 the
Treasury will be unable to issue any securities subject to
the debt limit, including securities issued to the GSIF.
Thus, if Congress does not act on debt limit legislation
prior to May 16, the GSIF will lose interest; there is no
authority for the Treasury to pay such interest at a later
date to make up for such losses.
The proposed legislation would provide the same treatment
to the Thrift Savings Plan as is now provided by law (P.L.
99-509) to the Civil Service Retirement Fund. This treatment
requires the Treasury to make up any loss of earnings to the
Fund created by a suspension of Treasury borrowing authority.
Although the bill seeks parity of treatment with the Civil
Service Retirement Fund, it is important to note that the
Thrift Savings Plan is different from the Civil Service
Retirement System (CSRS) in that the Thrift Savings Plan is a
wholly voluntary, defined contribution plan; whereas CSRS is
a mandatory, defined benefit plan. CSRS plan benefits do not
depend directly on the amount of the Fund's interest
earnings. The employer-employee contributions to the Thrift
Savings Plan, although held
in the custody of the Treasury Department, actually belong
to the individual employees. Accordingly, Congress intended
that the Thrift Investment Board be a financially independent
agency and exempted the Board from the appropriations
process, the budget, and the controls of the Executive Office
of the President which apply to other federal agencies. Yet,
perhaps inadvertently, Congress did not insulate the Board or
the Plan from the constraints of the public debt limit.
The Board believes that obligations issued to the GSIF
should clearly be exempt from the public debt limit
constraints. Yet, in view of the urgent need for timely
legislative action before May 15, we are requesting only that
the Plan be accorded the same treatment as the Civil Service
Retirement Fund.
Federal employees have been urged to deposit their funds in
the Thrift Savings Plan upon the representation that such
funds will be safely invested in government securities with a
guaranteed rate of return based on a prescribed statutory
interest rate formula. The Board has an obligation to federal
employees to make every effort to see that this commitment is
honored. Now, at the very beginning of the Plan, it is
especially important that there be no question as to the
integrity of the government's representation as to such
investments. In order to prevent unnecessary fear and
confusion on this point, we urge Congress to act on the
enclosed bill as soon as possible and before any suspension
of Treasury borrowing authority occurs.
We are sending a similar letter to the President of the
Senate. Copies have been sent to the Director of the Office
of Management and Budget.
Sincerely,
Francis X. Cavanaugh,
Executive Director.
Enclosure.
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Summary of the Bill
The purpose of the bill is to ensure that the federal
employees' Thrift Savings Plan (Plan) does not suffer a loss
of earnings in its Government Securities Investment Fund in
the event of a temporary suspension of borrowing authority of
the United States Treasury Department, due to the statutory
public debt limit.
The bill provides that, in the event the Secretary of the
Treasury suspends additional issuance of Treasury securities
to the Government Securities Investment Fund because such
issuance would exceed the debt limit, immediately upon
lifting of the borrowing suspension, the Secretary of the
Treasury shall issue securities to the Plan at interest rates
and maturities which will replicate the obligations that
would have been held by the Plan if the suspension had not
occurred. This ``make-whole'' relief will include the payment
of any interest the Plan loses as a result of the suspension.
Both the obligations and the interest will be determined in
accordance with the daily investment decisions made by the
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board during the
suspension period which would have been effective were it not
for the suspension.
The treatment accorded to the Plan by the bill is similar
to that accorded to the Civil Service Retirement and
Disability Fund in Section 6002 of the Omnibus Budget
Reconciliation Act of 1986, except that the bill recognizes
the statutory responsibility of the Executive Director (5
U.S.C. 8438(f)(2)(A)), rather than the Secretary of the
Treasury, to determine the amounts and maturities of the
investments in the Government Securities Investment Fund.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Stearns].
Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of this bill, but
obviously, like many, I do so with some reluctance. While I have often
opposed raising the debt ceiling, because of our efforts this bill
includes a pledge to achieve a CBO-scored balanced budget in 7 years. I
call attention to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, this pledge
is in the rule committing the President and Congress to enact in the
year 1995, the calendar year, legislation for a balanced budget by the
year 2002. It affirms the intent of Congress and the President to do
so, and it is in black and white, and it is part of this package that
we are voting on.
This, my friends, is the crux of our Contract With America. This is
why we have the responsibility today to be responsible. Do I like
raising the debt? Obviously I do not. But, for this reason, and for
this language, I intend to vote for this raising of the debt to
ultimately balance the budget. However, Mr. Speaker, what is also a
concern of mine is that without certain provisions in this bill, that
Chairman Archer made sure were in this bill, the Clinton administration
could dip into supposedly safe trust funds such as the Social Security
trust fund, the Medicare trust fund, and the Federal retiree trust
fund.
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I find this totally unacceptable and, frankly, so do the American
taxpayers. Yet the President is threatening to veto this bill because
we refuse to let the administration raid the Social Security, Medicare,
and Federal retiree trust funds. That is what the people on the other
side are saying. These trust funds should not see their assets reduced
even temporarily. It sets a bad precedent of encouraging the Treasury
Department to raid these funds. Without this amendment in the bill, the
money paid into these funds would be diverted to pay for other
services.
Mr. Speaker, this is not the American way, and this should not be
done. The American people have placed their trust in us to manage their
funds, to protect their investments. We cannot let them down.
I urge my colleagues, it is time to be responsible to pass this bill
and to pass
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a balanced budget amendment that will eliminate the need after almost
40 years of Democrat control for such legislation in the future.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Minnesota [Mr. Sabo].
(Mr. SABO asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. SABO. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for yielding me the
time.
Mr. Speaker, we should vote this bill down. We should be passing a
clean continuing resolution or a clean debt limit extension for a
reasonable time.
Why are we here today? We are here because this is the most
mismanaged legislative session I have seen in 35 years serving in
legislative office. It is November 9. The fiscal year began October 1.
I fully expected we would need a continuing resolution because the
majority would have passed appropriation bills, they would have been
vetoed in some cases, and the Congress and administration would be
negotiating. Instead, 9 of 13 bills have not passed the Congress. So we
need a continuing resolution.
Why do we need this bill on the debt ceiling? Because it is now
November. The Congress is doing what it should have been doing in July,
should have been passing its budget bill, sending it to the President,
probably vetoed, then serious negotiations occurring.
Instead, we have drifted along all session doing what was not
crucial; and here, a month and a half into the fiscal year, the House
and Senate is still dealing with the conference report. Shame on us. If
we had done our work, this bill would have been on the President's desk
before the August recess as it was 2 years ago, negotiations could have
occurred in September, maybe into mid-October, and had a solution.
Instead, total mismanagement. Mid-November, no budget bill, most of the
appropriation bills still hung up in the Congress. Instead, we find
ourselves with a debt ceiling extension, with habeas corpus and
Commerce and I do not know what all else is in here.
Mr. Speaker, we should defeat this bill.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Maryland [Mr. Hoyer].
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for yielding me
the time.
Mr. Speaker, I said yesterday that we started this Congress with the
Contract With America. There were 10 items essentially. Two out of the
first three talked about responsibility. The first item talked about
responsibility. The third item talked about personal responsibility. I
tell my friends on the Republican side of the aisle that this bill is
neither fiscally responsible nor it is personally responsible; and,
yes, we ought to be ashamed of playing with the credit of the United
States of America as we are doing.
This is not a serious attempt at responsible Government. It contains
extraneous matters unrelated to the critical issue of making sure
America pays it bills. Every American thinks its Government ought to do
that.
But that's not what we're doing today. This bill is loaded down with
unrelated provisions that have nothing to do with the problem before us
and will cause the President to veto this legislation.
Just like yesterday's continuing resolution, which the President has
also indicated he will veto, this is not a serious attempt at
responsible Government.
I am afraid that the message to Federal employees is: Don't consider
this a holiday weekend because you may not have a job next week.
The Republican leadership seems determined to close down Government
operations.
They are taking the CR and the debt limit extension down the path to
the same fate as many of the appropriations bills--stuck in the mud of
political partisanship.
This Government is not put at risk by this irresponsibility with
which we are confronted today. They want to up Social Security and
Medicare payments by $151 per recipient in this bill. That ought to be
debated fully. Habeas corpus, that may be a good bill, but it is not
subject to having an impact on the debt of the United States. Eliminate
the Commerce Department, a 200-page bill that the President disagrees
with. You put at risk the credit of the United States.
This debt limit extension measure also limits the Secretary of the
Treasury's ability to manage Federal employee investments in the thrift
savings plan as well as their retirement fund.
These provisions have nothing to do with allowing the Treasury
Department to continue to borrow money.
Auctions have already been canceled because of the Republican
leadership's failure to act.
I am gravely concerned about the impact of not passing a CR and debt
limit extension on Federal employees. They have been attacked again and
again in this Congress and now the leadership is threatening to send
them home on furlough.
Those in the Congress who claim to be Federal employee advocates and
then vote for these extreme measures are, in my opinion, undermining
the security of those Federal employees whom they claim to represent.
This is not a rhetorical issue. This is real fear for civil servants
who have families to feed and mortgages to pay. The lives of Federal
employees are once again being thrown into chaos as the Republicans
pursue their extreme agenda.
Ladies and gentlemen of this House, ladies and gentlemen of America,
this bill is a patently petty political terrorist tactic. That is what
it is. An attempt to force the President of the United States to adopt
things that you cannot get through your own Senate, not just the
Congress. This bill adopts tactics that put America as a hostage to an
extremist agenda.
Mr. HASTERT. Mr. Speaker, I ask that the gentleman's words be taken
down.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hobson). The Clerk will report the
words.
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Mr. HOYER. I would be glad to repeat them if you would like just so
they are clear on the Record.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hobson). The gentleman shall refrain
from speaking.
The Clerk will report the words.
The Clerk read as follows:
Ladies and gentlemen of this House, ladies and gentlemen of
America, this bill is a patently petty political terrorist
tactic, that is what it is, an attempt to force the President
of the United States to adopt things that you cannot get
through your own Senate, not just the Congress. This bill
adopts tactics that put America as a hostage to an extremist
agenda.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair rules that since this is not a
reference to an individual Member, that the remarks are in order.
However, the Chair would observe that there is a civility within the
House in addressing bills and Members that should be observed, and it
would be hoped that in the future that would be observed by all
Members.
Mr. HOYER. I thank the Speaker for his ruling.
The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. Hoyer] has
expired.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Pennsylvania [Mr. Walker].
Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that there is a legitimate concern about the
use of trust funds that has been mentioned earlier, and that the reason
why some who are coming to the floor are suggesting that they want to
give the administration total latitude on these issues is because, I
think, they are probably aware that the administration intends to use
the civil service retirement trust funds, the Government securities
investment fund, other cash, and perhaps even the Social Security trust
fund as the way of financing our debt into the future.
Now, we have heard discussion on the floor about the fact that we do
not want to default for the first time in history. The fact is we have
never used the Social Security trust fund for anything other than
Social Security payments at any time in history, either, and yet what
we are being told by this administration and by those defending the
administration on the floor, they are prepared, in pursuit of their
political agenda, to allow the Social Security trust fund to at some
point in the future be invaded for the purposes of paying the bills.
Now, our direction has been to try to balance the budget. We realize
that that takes a lot of hard work. We realize it has been an uphill
fight, with those who are opposed to that agenda fighting us every step
of the way to see
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to it these bills do not get passed. We realize there has been a
concerted effort to try to stop bills in other places in the Capitol
Building so that, in fact, the work cannot get completed, and now we
come down to the point where there is no longer an ability to pay the
debts that have been incurred over the last several years.
Now we are being told that the Social Security trust fund should be
put in jeopardy in the future. I would suggest that we ought to pass
the bill that is before us. Yes, it does contain a number of items in
it that we think are good for the country, such as regulatory reform,
we hope, after that amendment is adopted, habeas corpus reform, and a
number of other things. Fundamentally, what it does is allow the
President to borrow temporarily, and does so in a way that assures
protection of the trust funds.
Why do I say that we believe all this is happening? We have heard it
directly from the Department of the Treasury.
I have before me materials that indicate that the Department of the
Treasury is prepared in fact to begin using the civil service
retirement and disability fund. At a press briefing yesterday, they
outlined about $28 billion of money they are going to use, first out of
the Government securities investment fund, then out of civil service
retirement, then out of other petty cash amounts, and the next step
down the line, my friends, is the Social Security trust fund.
That is, I think, a very grave danger for us all. the way that you
can prevent that kind of problem from occurring is to vote for the bill
brought to you by the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer], assure that we
do protect the Social Security trust fund now and into the future,
assure we do have the ability to raise the debt limit enough to pay our
bills and, oh, by the way, get a couple of things done good for
America, such as eliminating a Cabinet department and giving this
Nation regulatory reform.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I am placing in the Record at this point a statement
made by the Secretary of the Treasury on the subject matter under
debate.
The referenced material is as follows:
Statement of Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin and Social Security
Commissioner Shirley S. Chater
As Trustees of the Social Security Trust Funds we want to
assure the American people that the resources of the Funds
are preserved and protected for the benefit of every American
who is now, or will in the future become, entitled to receive
Social Security benefits.
Questions have arisen recently whether, because of the
failure by Congress to increase the national debt limit, the
resources of the Funds might be used to provide funds for
governmental purposes unrelated to the payment of Social
Security benefits. This is our reply: The Social Security
Trust Funds will not be used for any purpose other than to
assure the payment of benefits to Social Security recipients.
We will continue to protect Social Security.
Furthermore, Congress should increase the statutory debt
limit in a manner so all of the government's obligations will
be paid on time. The Ways and Means Committee's bill,
however, leaves Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Supplemental
Security Income, veterans and military personnel, and
obligations such as the principal and interest on the public
debt all at risk. This is simply not acceptable.
In sum: this Administration will not use Social Security
Trust Funds for any purpose other than to assure the payment
of benefits to Social Security recipients.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Virginia [Mr. Scott].
Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the resolution, and
in particular the provision involving death row appeals.
Mr. Speaker, the provisions in this bill are different from the
provisions in the House-passed bill, and these provisions have been
sprung on us in the last 24 hours.
Mr. Speaker, the provisions of this will do nothing to reduce crime.
Death row inmates are not the ones out there robbing, raping and
murdering in the streets. There is not even anecdotal evidence these
inmates are the cause of crime in our community.
Mr. Speaker, we have not addressed the problem of innocent people
being put to death. It was reported in the New York Times this Sunday
that a man who had been on death row for 11 years in Illinois was
released after being acquitted when a subsequent trial disclosed that a
police officer had lied in the first trial.
What have we done about the police officer lying? Yesterday we had a
hearing on a bill that would limit the civil liability of the police
officer who lied, and today we consider legislation that will put the
defendant to death quicker so it will be less likely we ever could have
found out the truth.
Mr. Speaker, if we are going to do something about crime, we need to
do something different than what we have done so far this year, such as
cut funding for attorneys and death row appeals, which will create more
complications and more appeals. We have cut funding for crime
prevention and cops on the beat; cut funding for summer jobs, putting
more youth out on the streets; cut funding for college scholarships and
Head Start. All of that will increase crime.
If we really wanted to do something about crime, we would increase
the money for Head Start, summer jobs, college scholarships, crime
prevention and cops on the beat, and not insert these useless sound
bites in essential legislation.
Mr. Speaker, we should focus on the financial crisis before us and
not sneak provisions such as this through a debt ceiling resolution.
Mr. ARCHER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Georgia [Mr. Collins], a member of the Committee on Ways and Means.
Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the resolution by the chairman to
increase the debt limit, but I do so with some reluctance.
I hate to see us increase the debt that the taxpayers of this country
owe and that I know that our children will someday have to pay. But I
also know that if we are going to reach a balanced budget over the 7
years, as we have planned and as we have passed in both bodies, that we
will have to extend that debt limit. I understand that there is a lot
of confusion and controversy about how we are going to do that, and it
will take a couple, 2, 3 more weeks to really rectify those
differences.
So, therefore, we must increase the funding and the borrowing power
of our Government.
The thing that I like about this bill or this proposal is it will
restrict the use of trust funds. But, Mr. Speaker, you have heard the
old saying, ``A day late and a dollar short.'' Well, sir, I think we
are years late and several billon dollars short, because out of the
$4.9 trillion that we currently owe as the debt, the debt that is owed
by the taxpayers that has been created by the Congress, $1.25 trillion
of it is actually owed to trust funds, trust funds that people have
contributed to that they expect someday to receive in return.
Let me give you some of those amounts, Mr. Speaker. The Federal
employee's trust fund, some $375 billion owed by Treasury to that trust
fund; the Medicare part A trust fund, $130 billion owed by Treasury to
that trust fund; VA retirement, over $112 billion owed to that trust
fund by the Treasury; and Social Security, Mr. Speaker, some $483
billion of old age pension, part of my old age pension, owed to the
trust fund by the Treasury.
Mr. Speaker, I am including at this point in the Record a table
concerning the trust fund impact on budget results and investment
holdings as of September 30, 1995:
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TABLE 8.--TRUST FUND IMPACT ON BUDGET RESULTS AND INVESTMENT HOLDINGS AS OF SEPT. 30, 1995
[In millions of dollars]
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This month Fiscal year to date Securities held as investments,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ current fiscal year
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Classification Beginning of
Receipts Outlays Excess Receipts Outlays Excess -------------------------- Close of
This year This month this month
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Trust receipts, outlays, and
investments held:
Airport........................ 333 777 -445 6,125 7,242 -1,117 12,206 11,547 11,145
Black lung disability.......... 416 426 -46 987 987 (**) (*) (*) (*)
Federal disability insurance... 4,749 3,606 1,143 70,215 41,380 28,835 6,100 34,146 35,225
Federal employees life and
health........................ (*) -145 145 (*) -1,240 1,240 22,503 23,601 23,729
Federal employees retirement... 24,375 3,268 21,108 66,821 38,899 27,923 346,317 353,081 374,219
Federal hospital insurance..... 9,150 10,271 -1,121 114,847 114,883 -36 128,716 180,931 129,864
Federal old-age and survivors
insurance..................... 26,560 24,569 1,991 326,084 294,474 31,611 403,425 445,944 147,947
Federal supplementary medical
insurance..................... 1,746 5,903 -4,157 58,169 65,213 -7,044 21,489 17,675 13,513
Highways....................... 2,115 2,340 -226 23,613 22,688 925 17,694 8,846 8,531
Military advances.............. 967 1,314 -347 12,469 13,417 -948 (*) (*) (*)
Railroad retirement............ 451 675 -224 9,093 7,924 1,169 12,203 14,063 14,440
Military retirement............ 918 2,386 -1,468 34,624 27,797 6,827 105,367 114,320 112,963
Unemployment................... 336 1,801 -1,465 32,820 25,282 7,539 39,788 48,660 47,141
Veterans life insurance........ 23 110 -86 1,356 1,231 126 13,477 13,690 13,606
All other trust................ 525 555 -30 6,056 4,346 1,710 12,317 14,180 14,060
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Total trust fund receipts
and outlays and
investments held from
Table 6-D................. 72,665 57,893 14,772 763,281 664,521 98,760 1,151,601 1,240,682 1,256,385
Less Interfund transactions.... 27,150 27,150 ........... 212,849 212,849 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Trust fund receipts and
outlays on the basis of
Tables 4 and 5............ 45,515 30,742 14,772 550,432 451,671 98,760 ........... ........... ...........
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Total Federal fund receipts
and outlays............... 100,994 108,480 -7,486 835,221 1,097,794 262,573 ........... ........... ...........
Less Interfund transactions.... 443 443 (*) 975 975 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Federal fund receipts and
outlays on the basis of
Tables 4 and 5............ 100,551 108,037 -7,486 834,245 1,096,819 -262,573 ........... ........... ...........
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Less: Offsetting proprietary
receipts...................... 2,846 2,846 (*) 34,101 34,101 (*) ........... ........... ...........
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Net budget receipts and
outlays................... 143,219 135,933 7,286 1,350,576 1,514,389 -163,813 ........... ........... ...........
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*No transactions.
Note: Interfund receipts and outlays are transactions between Federal funds and trust funds such as Federal payments and contributions, and interest and
profits on investments in Federal securities. They have no net effect on overall budget receipts and outlays since the receipts side of such
transactions is offset against budget outlays. In this table, Interfund receipts are shown as an adjustment to arrive at total receipts and outlays of
trust funds respectively. Details may not add to totals due to rounding.
Source: U.S. Treasury, final monthly Treasury statement of receipts and outlays, September 1995.
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Michigan [Mr. Conyers].
(Mr. CONYERS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, first, my thanks to the gentleman from
Florida [Mr. Gibbons] for his courtesies and tenacity in this debate.
Members of the committee, it is pathetic that in a several hundred
page bill that was delivered to the Democrats on the Judiciary at 10:45
a.m. this morning, 27 pages of habeas corpus reform of the Senate's
that we have never seen, never read, never discussed, never debated,
never.
Why? This is the short-term debt ceiling limitation bill. What in
God's name is habeas corpus doing in this provision? You can pass it,
Republicans, anyway separately, I guess. You have been rolling all the
votes here for 10 months. But why stick it in overnight? Is there some
logic that this could be happening here in the most democratic forum,
the most democratic, fairest parliamentary system that we have in the
Federal Government?
But worse than that, this provision limits review in other habeas
cases. And my colleagues who have been so concerned about civil rights
violations by Federal law enforcement, read Ruby Ridge and Waco, that
now they want to leave Federal law enforcement and judges with no way
to protect against overzealous Federal law officers who may not have
acted lawfully.
It is pathetic that habeas reform has been tucked away in the debt
ceiling package. Habeas reform has absolutely nothing to do with short-
term debt and I cannot help but wonder why the Republicans, who control
both Houses of Congress need to attempt to pass habeas reform in this
underhanded manner.
My colleagues should make no mistake, this so-called habeas reform
bill does not reform habeas corpus law, it all but eliminates Federal
appeals in death penalty cases.
This bill will also limit review in other habeas cases. My colleagues
on the right who have been so concerned about civil rights violations
by Federal law enforcement officers may find that they are left with no
remedy when a lower court judge finds that those overzealous Federal
officers acted l
Amendments:
Cosponsors: